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Bad would be understatement of the year. It has 2m yuan PS with just 48 hours to go. Of course the biggest chain Wanda has delayed PS for some reason. But it still has 40K+ shows and having atrocious PS. Weathering with you with 39K shows has 4x PS !!! I had thought China will have a good run(I thought even $200m was possible with Cameron’s involvement). Now even Genesis numbers( ~100m) looks tough barring amazing WOM.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Then that should happen for most movies. October had multiple movies with typical AMC/Cinemark %( cinemark is like 60% of AMC). Only ones which had warped data were Gemini Man and now Terminator. Gemini Man BO was dominated by Imax/PLF in large cities and Dolby is the most preferred of all the PLF. That is why AMC dominated it. -
Presales Tracking Thread(Maoyan, Taopiaopiao etc)
keysersoze123 replied to Olive's topic in China At The Box Office
dark fate's ps is atrocious. @Olive/ @Gavin Feng has wanda started PS. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
SW9 is so far from release that daily updates dont make sense. But look at its Day 4(Monday) PS. AMC D4 - 14793/915091 $226510.15 - 4436 shows That is more than previews PS for Terminator 3 days before release :-). -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Terminator Dark Fate (T-3) AMC Prev - 13247/172740 $223387 805 shows +1798 Cin Prev - 4447/164214 $58662 1011 shows +654 It increased better than yesterday but that was given. Still numbers are really low(PS between 2 chains below 300K). Probably will stay below 500K by end of day wednesday and then finish around 700-800K. That would mean 1.9-2.3m national previews would be the range considering how much AMC is dominating cinemark. At worst it has Gemini man numbers(1.6m). -
Mal 2 will drop around 80% while Joker around mid 60's at AMC. Despite losing weekend Joker will be the weekly winner. Anyway I think this is a good hold for both the movies. Mal 2 should hit 3x legs. Wont be enough to make up for disappointing OW still its having decent run after OW. Nothing new to say about Joker beyond what we have said earlier. I am sure its gonna have a great hold this weekend as well despite dark fate.
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Presales Tracking Thread(Maoyan, Taopiaopiao etc)
keysersoze123 replied to Olive's topic in China At The Box Office
if this does not break out in China with James Cameron producing it, its bad news. Even Battle Angel did very well in China despite disappointing almost everywhere and this I thought is easier sell. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Movie is < 4 weeks away and still no showtimes even. That is really late. I thought even TS4 started PS by this point. -
JOKER OS THREAD // 738.5M OS // 1.074B WW
keysersoze123 replied to PanaMovie's topic in International Box Office
I would say what ever we expect, Joker will do slightly more than that. This week I thought 845m+ was good and it went above 851m. So if we believe in 925m, I think 930 will happen. I think this will cross 1B by the time Olaf 2 opens. -
Presales Tracking Thread(Maoyan, Taopiaopiao etc)
keysersoze123 replied to Olive's topic in China At The Box Office
it needs to hit 10m PS tomorrow. double every day until release. 1B Yuan, OW needs to be 500m and so needs 160m OW and minimum 40m PS. Let us see how things go. what does @POTUS 2020 think? -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Quick update for SW((sold 2641 tickets for previews and 2615 for OD at AMC). Probably needs burst of shows to see another jump. Otherwise it will be a slow plod until 10 days to release. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
It looks like there is no salvation for this franchise and this is gonna end up worse than Genesis. I wonder if we will get another one directed by the king himself starring 80 year old Arnie. Will need to hit 60K tickets between the 2 chains to keep 3m in play. May be 2.5m at best. Terminator - Dark Fate (T-4) AMC Prev - 11449/168679 $194693 791 shows + 1529 Cinemark Prev - 3793/163170 $50285 914 shows +449 -
JOKER OS THREAD // 738.5M OS // 1.074B WW
keysersoze123 replied to PanaMovie's topic in International Box Office
Impossible that Terminator has that big a impact as Joker does not need huge screen space to sustain plus Terminator looks like underperforming at this point. -
I doubt deadline is accurate. No way a big budget movie has that low a marketing budget. Deadline puts article based on the spin it wants. That said calling the movie a flop is ridiculous as well as most movies make money post theatrical release. With streaming, tv, cable and some HV revenue it will be profitable.
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JOKER OS THREAD // 738.5M OS // 1.074B WW
keysersoze123 replied to PanaMovie's topic in International Box Office
If you look at OS-C grosses for SH movies only Avengers movies will be ahead of Joker. I think even Ultron OS-C will be beaten. So only Endgame, Infinity War and 1st Avengers movie will remain ahead of this. !!!!! And its dominated by markets that give better returns to the distributors. So extremely profitable BO run. -
brazil Brazil Box Office Thread
keysersoze123 replied to Fullbuster's topic in International Box Office
Needs 3 more good weeks to hit 40m. I hope that happens. Would terminator do well here? -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
keysersoze123 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
4 days. its already monday in china. I had pegged this to gross 200m in china considering even Genysis did 1B yuan. Let us see once showcount hit 50K+. -
JOKER OS THREAD // 738.5M OS // 1.074B WW
keysersoze123 replied to PanaMovie's topic in International Box Office
3x endgame 4th weekend if I am not wrong. But endgame is not leggy. it was about OW records.