James

It is mostly because of the market growth. Just look at FB. In only 10 days it already outgrossed 7/8 Potter movies. With a 10-20% yearly growth for the past 5-6 years and more and more cinemas being built every year it isnțt hard to see why the Top 10 movies ever here is constantly changing. Well, with thee exception of Avatar. What that movie did was INCREDIBLE.

Don't trust these numbers, but everyone made fun of me when I said a 50-55% drop will happen for Beast. An under 50% on LOL. I love this movie and it's run! Who would've expected a HP spin-off to have one of the leggiest runs of the year for a live action blockbuster.

THIS. The better get at least Top 10. Funny stuff, but I just saw the Home Alone ad on the biggest TV network here. Home Alone 1,2 and 3 always register among the highest ratings in the entire year. It's been the same for the past 11 or 12 years. They reached a cult status here that no other movies have (well, maybe except for Titanic). Anything competing with them for ratings gets screwed.

It would surprise me. Moana looks a bit underwhelming so far in most major markets (Mexico, China, Russia). I don;t think it comes close to Frozen in the UK on OW. And I also don't think the difference between #1 (FB) and #2 (Moana) will be small at all. At least £ 1m.

WEEKEND BOX-OFFICE A little late and not a full analysis, but here is how the last weekend went. - Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them maintained it's top position for a second week, after easing 49% to reach a great $645k (very good hold for the franchise). It already beat all Harry Potter movies in USD, except for the last one. Soon enough though, it will pass Deathly Hallows - Part 2 too and the $1m border. - Moana debuted in second place with a so-so 147k. Because it is distributed by Forum Film Romania, we have no admission figures for it, but it is somewhere around 30.000. That debut is among the weakest of the year for big animations. In admissions it is less than half of Frozen, about half of Ice Age: Collision Course and Trolls, and also under The Secret Life of Pets, Tangled, Zootopia and BH6. The OW is stronger than the Finding Dory's or Storks', but that's not much of a consolation. Still, expect the WOM to be strong, at least until Sing hits, in three weeks (it is opening the same weekend as Rogue One). - Bad Santa 2 opened in third, with a very good 29.630 admissions and $130k. - Other notable results: Doctor Strange is nearing $1.4m (and the highest grossing Marvel movie title) and Trolls is quite close to $1m. This week's releases: - Underworld: Blood Wars - Allied - The Neon Demon - Snowtime! - Kills on Wheels The last Underworld movie opened with over 22.000 admissions and the presales for this current one are very good. I expect a result around 30.000 and it could go higher. Allied is also having great presales. Adult oriented movies usually don't open that high, but look for this one to go over 25.000 adm. Snowtime! is the first animated competition Moana is going to face. It isn't looking too impressive, but an opening over 10.000 adm should happen. It could go way higher than that though. It is winter themed and it's presales are decent. The other two movie will likely go under 10.000 adm.

I am really curious to see if FB is still on top on Friday. I expect it will be.

@Doctor Rth and his FBeasts we summon you. Give us that #1 FB number that everyone wants

That is just stunning for FB. That's a 7-8% drop from last week. Is today a holiday?

That good for FB?

Ok, so just seen the extended cut. OMG.By no means is this a good movie from a technical/plot POV. But you know why it did so well? Because it is fun. It is crazy, huge and not taking itself seriously and omg I had a blast. I enjoyed the weird cutting and songs crammed over every shot. It was like watching a big music video with Harley's craziness poured all over. Freakin delicious. I loved BvS for it's dark themes. I loved this for the how insane it was. A

Seeing FB again tonight with 7 other people. It's insane how excited I am to rewatch a movie haha

I just hope FB doesn't get swept away by competition. WoM seems to be good. Does anyone know how many what showtimes will FB retain this weekend and how does that compare to DS' second weekend?

Good hold for FB. For reference: FB - 2.2m (-67.5% from first Monday) DH1 - 2.33M (-73.4 from first Monday) GoF - 2.44 (-69.7% from first Monday) And maybe, just maybe, that 2.3m is for FB and not for Moana

Any chance of super-early Mon numbers @Doctor Rth and his FBeasts?

I understand that, but people were throwing 1b so easily a few days back. Side note, Moana opened here this past weekend, with about half of Frozen's numbers and also about 20-30% weaker than Tangled, Zootopia and BH6. Doubt it means much, but it's not an encouraging sign.

I was actually thinking about this and it is all about China and Japan at this point. Mostly Japan, because there's more wiggle room there than in China. It has pretty much no competition OS from now till RO. The Sunday drop in China is extremely good which is sign of over the norm WOM. Let's say it follows DS there and makes about 110m. In Japan it also had a huge Sunday and there's a good chance the OW actuals will come in even higher than the estimates. The WOM is also very good (high grades on their sites) and that could carry it very high (let's say 70m - Corpse says 55m should happen). And from the rest of the territories around 430m total should happen (this weekend's -48% drop from the holdovers is just great considering that last weekend was inflated by previews in most countries). That means 600m from OS. Methinks it is going for at least 230m DOM. Don't wanna say 240m because people will jump at me. That is 830m. Now, as I said, Japan and China are the key. Especially in Japan, good WOM is a bigger deal than OWs and I find Corpse's early projection a bit low. With DH2 legs it should make almost 75m. And around the world FB had way better holds than DH2. So 850m is by no means dead. It is unlikely though.

Additionally, the film added $132 million internationally this weekend, fueled by openings in China and Japan where it brought in an estimated $41.1 million and $15.5 million respectively. The film's global cume now stands at $473.7 million ranking thirteenth among all of 2016 releases. The three-day opening in China surpasses the lifetime grosses of all other films in J.K. Rowling's Wizarding Worldfranchise in that territory outside of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 ($60.8m). http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4245&p=.htm

Oh yeah, after having great drops OS this week it will COMPLETELY collapse. That makes sense. Seriously, it is at 317m after a 132m weekend. How on earth do you think it misses 525m. That's not even the floor at this point. As for DOM, even if it free falls 210m will still happen. For 750m it would need 540m OS. 750m is completely LOCKED. 800m is what we are talking about now.

Rank Title (click to view) Studio Worldwide Domestic / % Overseas / % Year 1 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King NL $1,119.1 $377.0 33.7% $742.1 66.3% 2003 2 The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey WB (NL) $1,021.1 $303.0 29.7% $718.1 70.3% 2012 3 The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug WB (NL) $958.4 $258.4 27% $700.0 73% 2013 4 The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies WB (NL) $956.0 $255.1 26.7% $700.9 73.3% 2014 5 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers NL $923.3 $339.8 36.8% $583.5 63.2% 2002 6 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring NL $869.3 $313.4 36% $556.0 64% 2001 TOTAL: $5,847.2 $1,846.7 31.6% $4,000.6 68.4% - AVERAGE: $974.5 $307.8 31.6% $666.8 68.4%

The average is that low because FB hasn't ended it's run yet. And Avengers is not really a good comp because if you include FB in the wizarding world, then you have to also include all the MCU movies with Avengers. The only franchise with higher average is the Middle Earth series (LOTR+TH), with around 974m average.

LOL. You are in denial. It will beat all HG movies WW, except for CF. It will also very likely beat PoA. But it is a spin-off to the biggest movie franchise ever WW so it shouldn't be a surprise. THG/Twilight never reached the heights of Potter WW.

Thanks to FB, The Wizarding World series passed the 8b border at the WW box office. Worldwide (Unadjusted) Rank Title (click to view) Studio Worldwide Domestic / % Overseas / % Year 1 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 WB $1,341.5 $381.0 28.4% $960.5 71.6% 2011 2 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone WB $974.8 $317.6 32.6% $657.2 67.4% 2001 3 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 WB $960.3 $296.0 30.8% $664.3 69.2% 2010 4 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix WB $939.9 $292.0 31.1% $647.9 68.9% 2007 5 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince WB $934.4 $302.0 32.3% $632.5 67.7% 2009 6 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire WB $896.9 $290.0 32.3% $606.9 67.7% 2005 7 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets WB $879.0 $262.0 29.8% $617.0 70.2% 2002 8 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban WB $796.7 $249.5 31.3% $547.1 68.7% 2004 9 Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them WB $473.7 $156.2 33% $317.5 67% 2016 TOTAL: $8,197.2 $2,546.3 31.1% $5,650.9 68.9% - FB should end up on #8 on that list, ahead of PoA.

Not at all. It didn't act like a Potter movie at all so far. Why would it start now?

People's expectations for this are just silly and it might be deemed a disappointment despite making some great numbers. Reading this, people would call a sub-700m total meh. WTF? This is an original animation. Frozen and Zootopia were freaks of nature. Anything over 500m is a win for Moana. Based on early numbers and word from the foreign forums, I'd say around 250m DOM and 400m OS (which is a hell lot of money).

Rank them by release date and you will find A LOT very recent of examples. And FB showed no sign of being frontloaded so far, so...