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The first one certainly wasn't making a great effort to appeal to poc. It's basically an allegory for how classism is positive and only has a non-white character because Samuel L Jackson just decides he wants to be in movies and it happens. I love Pixar films and I've seen every single one in theaters and I will not be seeing this.

I feel that. Talking to people is hard. You seem to be doing fine. Folks like you, that's something. When you have depression or anxiety, it seems like social media and forums and stuff can just make it worse because it's easy to feel like you're not being noticed. If you also have a hard time beginning conversations it gets worse. That's why I'm a lurker on here. Starting conversations is too hard and when you try hard and still get no response it's even worse than just not trying, I guess. Feeling invisible sucks. Though it might help to spend more time on smaller threads where you're more likely to get responses from dedicated fans?

We're on page 30, so come on 30mil!

I don't think Disney cares enough to fudge Wrinkle to 100m. I mean really, why should they care?

Yeah really. In what universe is 395 a low estimate? It's high for an animated film, high for a superhero film and on par with the first one's adjusted box office.

A 90% RT is not that impressive when so few critics even bothered to review it. The only people who reviewed it were probably already interested enough in either the story or the fact that it's a movie in this particular vein that they were likely to give a favourable review anyway. I'm still amazed this movie was released in theaters at all, especially given that the studio has produced virtually nothing before. I do still stand behind my statement that there's not a lot in this movie they couldn't have done far cheaper with a real dog though. Even horrible dog movies tend to make money as long as they don't cost a ton. Beverly Hills Chihuahua grossed 94 million on a 20 million budget and that movie's budget was insanely high for an animal film. It also was very firmly into rotten territory on RT. A better comparison might be Air Bud. It made only 27m, but its budget was 3m. A live action Sergeant Stubby could have had a modest budget of between 5-10 m and probably made back its production and a little bit more. With a 25m budget, I'm not sure it'll even recover what it cost to make. Also on a side note, it looks well reviewed but its average rating is only a 6.6 on RT and a 56% on Metacritic. I think this is kind of a case of a studio that didn't make the wisest choices. They shot themselves in the foot by not having Stubby talk, because talking animals appeal more to kids. I personally am not fond of historical event based movies using talking animals, but it makes for much better funny trailer material for the kiddos than a more straightfoward war-movie type look...

Despite the fact that it has such a low budget, Sgt Stubby isn't going to make anything. If the studio really wanted to make money, they would have used a real dog and saved themselves about 40 grand of the cost.

This only stands a chance because IW moved. I think people forget that the first Incredibles didn't do as well as several other Pixar movies. Plus a lot of the appeal was that there weren't a lot of superhero movies at the time (at least not good ones) so it got a boost from that. I think it'll do well but I still think it'll go under JW. Its only advantage is having so few family movies over the summer.

The fact that wages don't increase equal to inflation costs does make it harder to buy tickets though.

A panther is a melanistic leopard. Leopards can absolutely live in snow and some are adapted just for it. Who knows, it may best Frozen despite the chill.

It seems to be a rote 'based on a true story' animal film... but animated.

Saw Black Panther again tonight and got a trailer for an animated movie I didn't know existed. Sgt Stubby. I've never even heard of Fun Academy and this seems to be their first film. Sadly it just looks boring. It seems to be basically a dog in a weird situation movie (ie: Air Bud, etc) but animated instead of live action. They might have saved money and time by just filming real actors and a real dog. Does a thread for this even exist?

Poor Gael though. He tried. They really should have gotten the kid to sing it though. Gael admitted himself that he's not a singer. The two songs he did in the movie had a vocal coach on hand.

I don't think it's opening in America on the American release date. I still have no evidence this exists. Does it actually have showtimes there?

I still can't find any evidence that this is actually playing anywhere. It's certainly not around here and searching a few zip codes on fandango turns up nothing.

I have many angry things to say about Discovery and their so-called 'diversity' but unfortunately I can't without massive spoiler tags. But even that aside, shows have to be held to a different standard than movies because a show like star trek gets five times the amount of time to be with the characters than we do in a movie. Also with a lot of sci-fi shows with diverse casts there's never any actual cultural influence in terms of diversity and the characters basically read like they wrote a white person and cast a poc for the role anyway. Edit: for some reason I read "Star Trek" instead of Star Wars, but the point about there not being any cultural diversity still stands. I'm glad Star Wars has more actors of different races, but none of them actually seem to represent any earth culture involving those races. And this is coming from someone who has liked all of the new Star Wars movies to some degree.

I'm not sure why so many folks here seem to be against Charles Martinet doing the voice for this. He's still a professional voice actor and Mario isn't his only role. If it needs to be toned down a bit for the movie, I'm sure he's perfectly capable of doing so.

lol, that's some revisionist history right there. Most people didn't think it would even hit 200 million.

Agreed that comparing animals to the holocaust is wrong, but barnum had significant human rights violations too, considering he got his start by buying a black woman as a slave after slavery had already been abolished.

Coco finally had a daily gross more than Ferdinand after beating it's PTA pretty much every day for two weeks. Good for it.

I will say it makes a bit more sense than aforementioned event in another movie, given the location it's taking place and the circumstances of the event happening at the time. But it does seem convenient about the exact timing.

So, about that nitpick?

Pretty sure he can't share here because it might be spoilery, but he did say he reviewed it in RTM thread.

I love how it conveniently glosses over how Barnum got his start by buying an old black woman, using her as a side-show exhibit until she died and then made a ton of money holding a live autopsy of her body for the public.

I'm curious what your one nitpick was.