Incarnadine Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Holy crap @ Bad Grandpa's drop. What the hell? It's because of those 9 extra theaters added this week, without them it would have dropped 55%. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jandrew Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 BG is still trending on Twitter and WOM amongst the YA crowd looks superb. BG did not have that drop because theres a lack of comedy, people just think its hilarious and are recommending it to others. Very surprising run so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gary Scott Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Seeing Don Jon tonight. JGL Scarlett was kinda of disappointed only got a 3.5/5 from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcalcagn Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think the story that should be brought up about this weekend is that all three of the releases this weekend were from a mid-major company and each one of them did reasonably okay. I'm not sure if this will encourage more mid-major releases on "marquee" weekends but, hey, it's a start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Wolverine passed Pacific Rim! 11 The Wolverine Fox $413.5 $132.3 32.0% $281.2 68.0% 12 Pacific Rim WB $407.6 $101.8 25.0% $305.8 75.0% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Amazed that people don't take budget into account when deciding how a movie did.Ender's Game is not doing well. Fact is, a 28 Million dollar opening for a movie that cost 110 Million and therefor has a 220 Million break even point is poor. It is going to get crushed by "Thor 2" and "Catching Fire" in the next two weeks. And it has had weak openings in the overseas markets it has opened in. People here need to stop looking at everything through the eyes of fanboys/geeks,and understand the realties of the film business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Amazed that people don't take budget into account when deciding how a movie did.Ender's Game is not doing well. Fact is, a 28 Million dollar opening for a movie that cost 110 Million and therefor has a 220 Million break even point is poor. It is going to get crushed by "Thor 2" and "Catching Fire" in the next two weeks. And it has had weak openings in the overseas markets it has opened in.People here need to stop looking at everything through the eyes of fanboys/geeks,and understand the realties of the film business.It's a sucky opening but Summit dumped it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLK Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) On the flip side the studio will see little or none of the profit after selling the rights, so a big OS gross would mean squat (see The Golden Compass). What you guys don't mention from all this is that once the studio sells the rights to a movie OS they don't get the usual 40-45 % of the gross They get little to no money from its OS performance since the distributor ( rightfully - since they paid for it ) have the rights to the movie in their respective territories Sometimes this bites em in their asses since a movie does much better OS than DOM Both of you are correct but big studios have the capability to absorb big losses that Lionsgate doesn't have. Disney can handle one or two flops every year on its own.If that wasn't insurance enough, Disney movie business is a small part of Disney empire which can keep Disney studios afloat for a few years even if they were to fall on hard times. Same is true of Universal (NBC/Comcast), Sony and Warner Bros. to an extent. You need to make a lot of investments in order to set up distribution in 50+ territories and even with infrastructure in place P&A is expensive everywhere and there will be big bombs now and then. They have opted for a strategy that relies on presales. They don't usually greenlight big movies until they they are sure that they will make enough money from foreign presales. This is a strategy that will hurt you if you have a The Avengers on your hand and you don't know it but it protects you if you end up with a turkey like John Carter or worse. Edited November 3, 2013 by TLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Amazed that people don't take budget into account when deciding how a movie did.Ender's Game is not doing well. Fact is, a 28 Million dollar opening for a movie that cost 110 Million and therefor has a 220 Million break even point is poor. It is going to get crushed by "Thor 2" and "Catching Fire" in the next two weeks. And it has had weak openings in the overseas markets it has opened in. People here need to stop looking at everything through the eyes of fanboys/geeks,and understand the realties of the film business. This has been discussed before in this thread. They sold off foreign rights for 44M in a lot of territories, reducing their exposure to 56M at the most. Anything this movie does now is loss mitigation. For a movie everyone thought would bomb hard, it is actually doing pretty well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babz06 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Both of you are correct but big studios have the capability to absorb big losses that Lionsgate doesn't have. Disney can handle one or two flops every year on its own.If that wasn't insurance enough, Disney movie business is a small part of Disney empire which can keep Disney studios afloat for a few years even if they were to fall on hard times. Same is true of Universal (NBC/Comcast), Sony and Warner Bros. to an extent. You need to make a lot of investments in order to set up distribution in 50+ territories and even with infrastructure in place P&A is expensive everywhere and there will be big bombs now and then. They have opted for a strategy that relies on presales. They don't usually greenlight big movies until they they are sure that they will make enough money from foreign presales. This is a strategy that will hurt you if you have a The Avengers on your hand and you don't know it but it protects you if you end up with a turkey like John Carter or worse. Both of you are correct but big studios have the capability to absorb big losses that Lionsgate doesn't have. Disney can handle one or two flops every year on its own.If that wasn't insurance enough, Disney movie business is a small part of Disney empire which can keep Disney studios afloat for a few years even if they were to fall on hard times. Same is true of Universal (NBC/Comcast), Sony and Warner Bros. to an extent. You need to make a lot of investments in order to set up distribution in 50+ territories and even with infrastructure in place P&A is expensive everywhere and there will be big bombs now and then. They have opted for a strategy that relies on presales. They don't usually greenlight big movies until they they are sure that they will make enough money from foreign presales. This is a strategy that will hurt you if you have a The Avengers on your hand and you don't know it but it protects you if you end up with a turkey like John Carter or worse. You are correct. That's exactly why Lionsgate is a 'mini major'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Gingy, you'd really like Don Jon. Its almost as anti-porn/anti-masturbation as you are. Edited November 3, 2013 by Jack Skellington 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Gingy, you'd really like Don Jon. Its almost as anti-porn/anti-masturbation as you.I am Tarzan now, I had to masturbate on the jungle. Oh, and I did a couple monkeys as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babz06 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) This has been discussed before in this thread. They sold off foreign rights for 44M in a lot of territories, reducing their exposure to 56M at the most. Anything this movie does now is loss mitigation. For a movie everyone thought would bomb hard, it is actually doing pretty well. But Ender's game wont make a profit for the studio unless it grosses more than 100m right? so you cant say its doing 'pretty well'. The best it can hope for is 70-80m and that's probably not enough for a sequel. Unless it starts doing gangbusters overseas which is unlikely. Objectively, it's not doing pretty well.....it's just there. Edited November 3, 2013 by babz06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Gingy, you'd really like Don Jon. Its almost as anti-porn/anti-masturbation as you are.Did you enjoy the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tawasal Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I am Tarzan now, I had to masturbate on the jungle. Oh, and I did a couple monkeys as well. So what name is next? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 So what name is next?Another cartoon character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tawasal Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Seeing Don Jon tonight. JGL Scarlett +100000000000000000000 likes THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tawasal Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Another cartoon character. Would you be Rapunzel? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Did you enjoy the movie? I enjoyed the performances, and there are some good moments of honesty that you dont see in most romcoms, but it does get more and more preachy as it goes along and due to a lack of stylistic consistency in JGL's direction I never felt like I got immersed in the story or the characters. In the end it doesn't feel very satisfactory, and you can feel the movie really does have a weirdly puritanical agenda to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
