Halba Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) RT looks good but the ave rating is getting lower now only 7.2/10. trek 1- 8.2/10 trek 2 into darkness- 7.5/10 trek 3 beyond- 7.2/10 so far(could end up 6.9-7.0/10) franchise is in slight decline imo. Edited July 16, 2016 by Halba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, Halba said: RT looks good but the ave rating is getting lower now only 7.2/10. trek 1- 8.2/10 trek 2 into darkness- 7.5/10 trek 3 beyond- 7.2/10 so far(could end up 6.9-7.0/10) franchise is in slight decline imo. Yeah, if audiences weren't crazy about STID, the early reception doesn't give me much hope this will be way more liked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 It may speak more to STID and its ratings than Star Trek Beyond. The reviews are good, and that's more than what could have been said just two months ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Reynolds Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Chris Hemsworth Will Return For ‘Star Trek 4,’ J.J. Abrams Teases Sequel http://theplaylist.net/chris-hemsworth-will-return-star-trek-4-j-j-abrams-teases-sequel-20160715/ if it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 have you guys read the reviews? they range from good enough fan service, to decent but forgettable fluff, to mindless generic actioner. A Trekker goes as far as to say Michael Bay has won because the movie looks like a musical video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 59 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said: Chris Hemsworth Will Return For ‘Star Trek 4,’ J.J. Abrams Teases Sequel http://theplaylist.net/chris-hemsworth-will-return-star-trek-4-j-j-abrams-teases-sequel-20160715/ if it happens Uggg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 ...but Hems died at the beginning of the first movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, filmlover said: ...but Hems died at the beginning of the first movie. MAGIC BLOOD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 On the other hand, I like the idea of them bringing Hemsworth back since both he and Pine have had trouble establishing careers outside of their respective franchises. Like "father", like "son". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, Goffe said: MAGIC BLOOD! Time Travel Holodeck Dimensions 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halba Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) also the runtime is disappointing at 120min. not epic enough . STar trek 2009 - 127min STID - 132min ST- beyond - 120min flop. Edited July 16, 2016 by Halba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Halba said: also the runtime is disappointing at 120min. not epic enough . STar trek 2009 - 127min STID - 132min ST- beyond - 120min flop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 42 minutes ago, Halba said: also the runtime is disappointing at 120min. not epic enough . STar trek 2009 - 127min STID - 132min ST- beyond - 120min flop. Prior to the reboot the two highest grossing Treks unadjusted had runtimes of 109 and 113 minutes. 4 of the Top 5 had runtimes under 2 hours. Halba Flop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Reynolds Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 4 hours ago, Halba said: RT looks good but the ave rating is getting lower now only 7.2/10. trek 1- 8.2/10 trek 2 into darkness- 7.5/10 trek 3 beyond- 7.2/10 so far(could end up 6.9-7.0/10) franchise is in slight decline imo. almost all the reviews say its better than STID, so weird that the score is lower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I certainly hope it's better than STID 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyMovieCanBeatUpYourMovie Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Ryan Reynolds said: almost all the reviews say its better than STID, so weird that the score is lower Not so weird. STID was coming off all the good will generated by ST09. Beyond is coming off all the ill will generated by STID. Critics are in a less generous mood this time out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Most Critics probably don't have any idea about the nerd rage regarding STID. They just don't give a crap about stuff like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, MyMovieCanBeatUpYourMovie said: Not so weird. STID was coming off all the good will generated by ST09. Beyond is coming off all the ill will generated by STID. Critics are in a less generous mood this time out. What at ill will? Star Trek Into Darkness received very good reviews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halba Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) star trek into darkness was an epic movie with benedict cumberbatch in top form. this movie will flop. Edited July 16, 2016 by Halba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyMovieCanBeatUpYourMovie Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, John Marston said: What at ill will? Star Trek Into Darkness received very good reviews Very true. But I think the view of STID has changed in three years, to its detriment. Testing that, I searched for every mention of Into Darkness that talked about that film's quality in the 24 posted reviews at RT so far. (Apologize in advance for the lengthy post.) The results: " Not only does it follow the very divisive sequel Into Darkness" " The “Star Trek” franchise fell into that trap with its last installment, “Star Trek: Into Darkness” (2013), which went heavy on pathos." " After the forced melodrama of the last instalment, 2013’s Into Darkness" " Star Trek Beyond does some much-needed course correcting after the heaviness, and heavy self-involvement, of Star Trek Into Darkness" " Compared to both Star Trek and Star Trek Into Darkness, Star Trek Beyond is a much more scaled down adventure for the crew, and the McGuffin-centric plot doesn't really lend itself to an array of big twists and turns - but all that serves to allow the film to primarily focus on character. This is why the movie works as well as it does. " " At least in Star Trek Into Darkness it led to a creative retelling of a classic Trek story. I understand why Trekkers wouldn’t want to see a remake in only the second adventure of the new cast, but at least it’s a clever twist, albeit a misguided one. Star Trek Beyond is just a noisy and cluttered spectacle. " " The previous instalment, Star Trek Into Darkness, received a mixed response, with criticism focusing on its dour tone; its uncomfortable, city-demolishing spectacle; and its leaning heavily on Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, which resulted in a nonsensical plot with unearned character moments." " That’s what Abrams tried to do in his two films, and the underrated “Star Trek Into Darkness,” though it played a bit of a shell game with “Trek” mythology, casting Benedict Cumberbatch as a young Khan who didn’t completely parse as the Khan of legend, was still a movie that took you on a sinister cosmic joyride." " While it fits smoothly with the universe J.J. started, it’s lighter and funnier than Abrams’ movies, with a welcome sense of adventure after Into Darkness’, erm, darkness. " " Roses rarely lose their bloom as quickly as Star Trek Into Darkness. Well received upon its initial release, JJ Abrams’ sequel has since undergone a recalibration and a re-evaluation. " " And the attempts to tackle post-9/11 anxieties - especially in the aptly titled Star Trek Into Darkness - were uncomfortably confrontational, and at least arguably cynical. " " but then shifted into neutral for the humdrum 2013 follow-up,Star Trek Into Darkness, a regimented blockbuster that felt hollow and heavy beneath all its noise and brawn " " I found Star Trek into Darkness quite engaging because it was specifically about this conflict, a parable for the desire for “old-school Star Trek” and action-centric, somewhat militarized “blockbuster Star Trek.” But even while that sequel firmly ended out in favor of “peaceful exploration” over “violence and war,” it bogged itself down in climactic homages and generic blockbuster tropes. " "The overall inconsequential nature of “Star Trek Beyond” stands in stark contrast to 2013’s sprawling “Star Trek Into Darkness,” " " The previous ‘Star Trek’ movie, 2013’s ‘Into Darkness’, was packed with it: a sprawling epic full of new worlds, violent consequences and hefty emotional moments. It was later – just a little unfairly – voted the worst Trek movie ever by some of the series’s most hardcore fans. So, still some positive mentions, but if the reviews posted so far are representative of critics as a whole, I think it would be fair to say opinion has soured somewhat on Into Darkness since its initial release. Edited July 16, 2016 by MyMovieCanBeatUpYourMovie 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
