zackzack Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Come on don't be over-dramatic how TASM2 is going to lead to end of the franchise. The OS number remains strong and $220M is not bad for DOM. At worst, it will do $600M WW, and that is a damn good number for any movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Come on don't be over-dramatic how TASM2 is going to lead to end of the franchise. The OS number remains strong and $220M is not bad for DOM. At worst, it will do $600M WW, and that is a damn good number for any movie. Not for a movie with 400m+ in costs. Especially when they get zero dollars from merch. Edited May 2, 2014 by Orestes 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Less than 30 mil second week???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 By the way, is it crazy that Sony has spent as much on this as will roughly be spent on TA2? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Yup, the hate is still amazing in here. It's a tacky enterprise that willingly mires itself in mediocrity due to shameless studio oversight and a slouch of a filmmaker with no distinct vision. It's arguably the least inspired CBM I've ever seen. In short, much of the hate's justified. Edited May 2, 2014 by JohnnyGossamer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accursed Arachnid!™ Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Ang Lee's hulk will end up selling more tickets than a Spiderman movie OW, who would have thought? But that opening was fine for 2003? If it had better legs and WOM it would have been seen differently. Anyone can twist numbers to sound however they want. Especially when comparing different eras. For example: TA's multiplier was well below Batman Forever's and Batman Forever also beat the OW record by over 10%. See how easy that is? If TASM2 sells less than 22m tickets overall, then maybe you'll have something to compare it to "Ang" Hulk. Until then, we should compare apples to apples. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Alfred Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 220m is a disaster for a Spidey film. And it's not even gonna do as much as SM1 OS. It's not even gonna be in the yearly top 10, you can't spin that any way around to make it look ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 By the way, is it crazy that Sony has spent as much on this as will roughly be spent on TA2? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spizzer Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) If we look at the last 2 Marvel May openers the midnight to weekend multiplier was pretty much the same. TA : 207.44/18.7 = 11.09 IM3 : 174.14/15.6 = 11.16 Would give TASM2 96.5 - 97m. TASM2 has a relative lack of buzz, but 90m+ is very likely. Yeah that's fairly indicative. That said, it's noteworthy that even the older SpiderMan films had more midnight/preview demand than the other Marvel films. The average non SM film sees ~16% of its OD come from the midnight/preview (TA and IM3 were major exceptions so obviously the trend has changed due to a variety of factors). The 2 Friday SM films averaged 17.5%, on the same weekend of May in a less frontloaded eras. The argument also could be made that WOM spreads faster by the year though, it may not hold as well as those two over the weekend (but that's reaching, plus its early to call that). Edited May 2, 2014 by Spizzer - Manav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Yeah that's fairly indicative. That said, it's noteworthy that even the older SpiderMan films had more midnight/preview demand than the other Marvel films. The average non SM film sees ~15% of its OD come from the midnight/preview. The 2 Friday SM films averaged 17.5%, on the same weekend of May in a less frontloaded eras. The argument also could be made that WOM spreads faster by the year though, it may not hold as well as those two over the weekend.Is WOM bad? We don't know yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accursed Arachnid!™ Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Not really. Over the course of a year a number or recorded strikes are recorded by meteorites on the Earth. Most are small enough to burn up so the idea that this beat the statistical odds, perhaps due to it's alien stowaway, makes it plausible enough. The flaw of the scene is just how little of an impact is made from a sound perspective and kicking up some debris spray. And said alien stowaway just happens to fall near the only superhero on the planet? Spidey saying he got the costume while whisked away with a bunch of other superheroes on a god-like alien's created world would be more plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 220m is a disaster for a Spidey film. And it's not even gonna do as much as SM1 OS. It's not even gonna be in the yearly top 10, you can't spin that any way around to make it look ok.Ridiculous exaggerations. Thanks to China 500m overseas is still on the table 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spizzer Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Is WOM bad? We don't know yet True. It was just a thought, I'm not trying to insist that it is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accursed Arachnid!™ Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) 220m is a disaster for a Spidey film. Tsk, tsk, someone's extrapolating from previews/midnights. Edited May 2, 2014 by Accursed Arachnid!™ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rockNrollaDIM Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 FLOPPERMAN!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 220m is a disaster for a Spidey film. And it's not even gonna do as much as SM1 OS. It's not even gonna be in the yearly top 10, you can't spin that any way around to make it look ok. sm1 did 418m os. looks like you are already spinning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ban1o Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 How can you predict 220 domestic from just a midnight number. That;'s ridiculous at least wait for the opening weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accursed Arachnid!™ Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 By the way, is it crazy that Sony has spent as much on this as will roughly be spent on TA2? Is it crazy the consensus on here considers a film a success when it really didn't do that much better domestically than a film we consider a flop? MOS did 13.7% better adjusted than Superman Returns and that 13.7% can easily be attributed to 3D. But, really, when it comes to blockbuster films that make over 600m WW, there are no failures, only different levels of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Is it crazy the consensus on here considers a film a success when it really didn't do that much better domestically than a film we consider a flop? MOS did 13.7% better adjusted than Superman Returns and that 13.7% can easily be attributed to 3D. But, really, when it comes to blockbuster films that make over 600m WW, there are no failures, only different levels of success. I dont personally consider MOS a success. At least, not as much of a success as the studio wanted. If it was, I think we would be getting MOS2, not Superman Hearts Batman. Still, even though MOS didn't make that much more than Returns, it didn't have the inflated budget that Returns did for whatever reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
