redfirebird2008 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 So it could be at $450m worldwide by Sunday night. Not bad. Shameless bump. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I think more like $400m by Sunday night. Overall, ~$500m total, maybe a bit more. $700m WW seems like a longshot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I think more like $400m by Sunday night. Overall, ~$500m total, maybe a bit more. $700m WW seems like a longshot. If you're responding to my post, I think you misread it. I was referring to yesterday, not the upcoming Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviedweeb Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I will be enormously happy with a $500m OS total. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 As much as I'd like to see it, I honestly don't see how Interstellar can get $170 million more from existing OS markets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hernan Gonzalez Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I see around $70 million from China+SK+Japan. I'm somewhat sceptical that holdovers from other countries can reach $50 million. As you said we can count on $70m (from China+SK+Japan) + $30m in Europe ($10m in the UK, $10m France+Germany and $10m Italy+Spain+all the other European markets) + $20m (In the rest of Asia+Australia+LA, it still has to open in Venezuela I think) = $120m So the floor should be $450m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 As you said we can count on $70m (from China+SK+Japan) + $30m in Europe ($10m in the UK, $10m France+Germany and $10m Italy+Spain+all the other European markets) + $20m (In the rest of Asia+Australia+LA, it still has to open in Venezuela I think) = $120m So the floor should be $450m That's pretty much the breakdown I arrived at except I don't think it's a lock. It could fall harder in Europe because of Mockingjay for example or maybe it will have less-than-average legs in Japan. Australia I think could manage another $3-5 million but I don't think we'll see much from the rest of Asia or Latin America. If Venezuela follows the pattern of LA in general then that's a sub $5 million gross and possibly much lower. I'm pretty sure it will get close to Gravity but 50/50 on whether it will surpass it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviedweeb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I think more like $400m by Sunday night. Overall, ~$500m total, maybe a bit more. $700m WW seems like a longshot. So when they say it is running 10% ahead of Inception, is this unable to reach those levels because Inception had an extended Oscar run? Or something of that sort? What are the factors that will make ths\is fall behind Inception's pace? $450m would still be fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 So when they say it is running 10% ahead of Inception, is this unable to reach those levels because Inception had an extended Oscar run? Or something of that sort? What are the factors that will make ths\is fall behind Inception's pace? $450m would still be fantastic. I don't think Inception was day and date in pretty much all markets, whereas Interstellar was released pretty much everywhere during its first two weeks. So it's misleading when they say it's 10% ahead or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviedweeb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I don't think Inception was day and date in pretty much all markets, whereas Interstellar was released pretty much everywhere during its first two weeks. So it's misleading when they say it's 10% ahead or whatever. I believe articles state that it is 10% ahead of Inception in the same markets and not just overall due to its quicker rollout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy001 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Why do you think Korean people have a big interest in science? Because they love Interstellar? As far as I know, sci-fi genre is not that their favorite ones. They love realistic sci-fi movie? What film? I have doubts about that statement. Admissions of Gravity in Korea was just 3 millions. Surely not poor number, but not that amazing number neither. I think they just admire Nolan's ability and grand scope of the movie. Welk gravity is very popular in korea making around $30mill. Yeah Its a nolan factor also i kno. Anyway,When im talking about a realistic sci-fi im talking about gravity n interstella or edge of tomorrow for that matter. They may nt b familiar with a story like star trek or guadian of d galaxy becuz it does nt give'em a realistic feeling to it but science with technology n space types r always popular here. South korea is one of highest score competing in world science competition at any education level, so kids @ school or college in general r hving a big interest in science. Somehow they r lacking in budget to produce a film like interstella. Im nt surprised at all that this has bcome a big hit here. I been to korea n having korean friends myself+ ive read here n there about this country to kno about it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCA Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Go overseas markets! Excellent holds all around! Even with this awesome overseas performance, some members here still find a way to be cynical and doubtful. Pathetic. Look at the holds people, Mockingjay this past weekend debuted day-and-date in almost all major markets. Interstellar overseas took that competition head on and still had a small weekend drop in overseas markets. There are already signs Mockinjay's legs will be weak, so Interstellar should continue to shine. Japan could also be a wild card, none of us know how the legs will play out in Japan. Beating Gravity overseas is virtually a lock now. Getting to 500M overseas should be likely, and over 500M is quite possible as well. Interstellar has a decent chance to exceed Inception's overseas total in fact. If by some miracle Interstellar was able to beat Gravity's worldwide gross, that would bring me great joy. It would be a nice Christmas present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartonfink Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Welk gravity is very popular in korea making around $30mill. Yeah Its a nolan factor also i kno. Anyway,When im talking about a realistic sci-fi im talking about gravity n interstella or edge of tomorrow for that matter. They may nt b familiar with a story like star trek or guadian of d galaxy becuz it does nt give'em a realistic feeling to it but science with technology n space types r always popular here. South korea is one of highest score competing in world science competition at any education level, so kids @ school or college in general r hving a big interest in science. Somehow they r lacking in budget to produce a film like interstella. Im nt surprised at all that this has bcome a big hit here. I been to korea n having korean friends myself+ ive read here n there about this country to kno about it.. I'm sorry, but how is Edge Of Tomorrow realistic? I think it's more akin to time loop & military fantasy. More flashy, bigger Groundhog Day + Starship Troopers. And if realistic & space type films are, as you say, always popular in Korea, why didn't they love Sunshine, The Moon, Mission To Mars etc? And what you know about Korea isn't like my thoughts. Of course Korean students are very smart and often win at science competition. But personally I don't think it results from Korean's pure interest and affection for science. I guess it results from great fervor for education. Often Korean people say their country is "entrance examination republic." So many Korean students wanna go to special-purpose high school, then prestigious college and they believe that's the certain key to successful life. Winning science competition is valid qualification for entrance examination too. And actually poor treatment of basic science is one of continuous social issues in Korea. Even there was a time when companies avoided employment of natural science and engineering majors. Now situations are improved and they can get a job easier than humanities student, but that's applied to just job market. People who are engage in natural science and engineering field like professional scientists are still hungry for interest and affection. Then why is Interstellar big hit in Korea? Well I don't know exactly. But I can guess some reasons. First of all, Korean audiences immensely admire epic films. 10-15 years ago, they made many local mainstream movies that inspired by Hollywood blockbusters called "Hankookhyung Blockbuster." (some of them are great hits like Shiri and JSA, but many of them are miserable failures.) Even now, I can see comments from some Korean netizen like "I don't wanna see our movies which look like home drama in cinema. I wanna see huge, spectacular Hollywood movies in IMAX!" Sure, It's not that every single blockbuster succeeds in Korea. Then think about the reason why people love Nolan. Unlike any other blockbusters which give just mindless and frivolous spectacle, his films offer serious, thought-provoking entertainment. This time Interstellar's cerebral concept whips up public interest. Actually the movie's not that hard to understand or philosophically profound, but some people in Korea consider it as astrophysics course or art-house film. That's interesting situation. Also the movie is tear-jerking melodrama about love. Korean love that type of films. So eventually Interstellar is sum of the most favorable elements to Korean people. I live in Korea now and face various aspects of Korean society everyday. So I think my opinion isn't thoroughly absurd. Anyway my point is, Korean audiences love Interstellar not because they're realistic SF geek or they're having great interest in science. They love the movie because it's cerebral, epic melodrama which directed by Nolan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) I'm sorry, but how is Edge Of Tomorrow realistic? I think it's more akin to time loop & military fantasy. More flashy, bigger Groundhog Day + Starship Troopers. And if realistic & space type films are, as you say, always popular in Korea, why didn't they love Sunshine, The Moon, Mission To Mars etc? I always thought realism in science fiction was a moot point since most of it is speculative anyway. I won't deny films like EoT and the TF series get a lot of love for their action but Korean audiences love films that have sci-fi elements mixed in with it. If Koreans liked straight up action, film series like Bourne and FF would have got a lot more love than they did. Sunshine, mission to mars, and Moon failed not because of the sci-fi element but because they didn't get any advertising and people hardly knew they were being released. And it's not like those films did mega bucks in other territories. (pretty sure at least 2 of them failed to turn a profit) And what you know about Korea isn't like my thoughts. Of course Korean students are very smart and often win at science competition. But personally I don't think it results from Korean's pure interest and affection for science. I guess it results from great fervor for education. Often Korean people say their country is "entrance examination republic." So many Korean students wanna go to special-purpose high school, then prestigious college and they believe that's the certain key to successful life. Winning science competition is valid qualification for entrance examination too. And actually poor treatment of basic science is one of continuous social issues in Korea. Even there was a time when companies avoided employment of natural science and engineering majors. Now situations are improved and they can get a job easier than humanities student, but that's applied to just job market. People who are engage in natural science and engineering field like professional scientists are still hungry for interest and affection. This is 100% true. The bolded part actually is one of the reasons why science fiction can attract a large audience. Films such as interstellar, that is reputed to have lots of cutting edge science and a renowned physicist such as Kip on board the production team attract a lot of attention from parents who want their student children to learn while having fun. This is an increasing trend in the society dubbed as "Edutainment" (education + entertainment) as parents strive to get their children hooked on academic topics in a more natural fashion. Then why is Interstellar big hit in Korea? Well I don't know exactly. But I can guess some reasons. First of all, Korean audiences immensely admire epic films. 10-15 years ago, they made many local mainstream movies that inspired by Hollywood blockbusters called "Hankookhyung Blockbuster." (some of them are great hits like Shiri and JSA, but many of them are miserable failures.) Even now, I can see comments from some Korean netizen like "I don't wanna see our movies which look like home drama in cinema. I wanna see huge, spectacular Hollywood movies in IMAX!" Sure, It's not that every single blockbuster succeeds in Korea. Then think about the reason why people love Nolan. Unlike any other blockbusters which give just mindless and frivolous spectacle, his films offer serious, thought-provoking entertainment. This time Interstellar's cerebral concept whips up public interest. Actually the movie's not that hard to understand or philosophically profound, but some people in Korea consider it as astrophysics course or art-house film. That's interesting situation. Also the movie is tear-jerking melodrama about love. Korean love that type of films. So eventually Interstellar is sum of the most favorable elements to Korean people. I agree with this. People also love the music which is always a plus in Korea. I might also add that since films on a epic scale like interstellar require a huge budget that Korean films simply can't come up with, audiences tend to thirst for these types of films even more. A common reaction I found to people who saw Interstellar was that even those who didn't like the plot felt that the vision and scope of the film was light-years (pardon the pun) ahead of the Korean film industry and worth the watch simply for that reason alone. Edited November 25, 2014 by Rsyu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picores Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I dont see this getting 500 OS, not even close. Gravity gross is a good benchmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 China+SK+Japan should be over $200m. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stingray Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I predicted 325m OS, and it's already past that. Way to go! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) So when they say it is running 10% ahead of Inception, is this unable to reach those levels because Inception had an extended Oscar run? Or something of that sort? What are the factors that will make ths\is fall behind Inception's pace? $450m would still be fantastic. It is possible that it stays ahead. They are talking about 10% ahead in the same markets at the same point of its run within each market. So it is accurate. Interstellar decreased more than last weekend in most markets. In addition, Penguins and Horrible Bosses 2 is being released everywhere. Of course, there is no problem with competition, just screen-count decrease. I think part of my doubts is also that the decreases in North America have been quite bigger than Inception or Gravity. I mean, last weekend it was 14% ahead of Inception. Now it's only 10% ahead. Of course this is not bad. But it could continue having bigger decreases, in which case at some point Inception may catch up. For exapmle, Inception played for 9 weekends in China and had very small decreases. Inception will only play for four probably. We'll see. Currently, anything could happen but even $500M OS would be a massive success. Edited November 25, 2014 by Quigley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teardropmina Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 some Nolanites may be confused about OS and WW. and some need to go visit the Japanese OS thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 some Nolanites may be confused about OS and WW. and some need to go visit the Japanese OS thread. Confused about what? Japan is a unique market but it is only one market. The film is doing great overseas even if it's flopping in Japan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
