riczhang Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 The last time a film got Ensemble and nothing else was in 2007. 3:10 to Yuma and Hairspray, but that was a very strange year and neither of those were serious BP contenders a la TGBH. Those two films only hit SAG ensemble out of major awards (well Hairspray hit some C/M stuff in a very weak C/M year but the GGs barely count for much anyways). So if this is the SAG precedent then I'm not very optimistic on TGBH's chances anymore.... The year before Bobby had the same thing and that was marketed as a serious awards contender and got completely snubbed by BAFTA and AMPAS, but that was probably due to bad reviews more than anything else. 46% on RT.... LOL And Hustle and Flow the year before that only hit BP at GG-Drama. Though it got an BA nod at AMPAS but not at SAG despite hitting Ensemble... Crazy. And before that was 2003 when In America, which was screenplay strong only ended up getting screenplay and acting at AMPAS and no picture...) and ROTK, but that was a totally different beast. ROTK was undeniable for best picture and it won the SAG, which TGBH won't. Before that it's also happened three times, for The Two Towers, Moulin Rouge and the Full Monty (but this was pretty early in SAG history when they were still getting the footing and doing random shit so this may not be the best example). So there is a chance, but if you go by past examples of this situation, the chances aren't particularly good. Isn't the boy the lead in boyhood? He is but co-leads happen all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acsc1312 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Ric is Fishnets reincarnated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezen Baklattan Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 OMG JAKE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 The last time a film got Ensemble and nothing else was in 2007. 3:10 to Yuma and Hairspray, but that was a very strange year and neither of those were serious BP contenders a la TGBH. Those two films only hit SAG ensemble out of major awards (well Hairspray hit some C/M stuff in a very weak C/M year but the GGs barely count for much anyways). So if this is the SAG precedent then I'm not very optimistic on TGBH's chances anymore.... Midnight in Paris. Which is why I used that comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Hawke isn't close to the lead for Boyhood. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Midnight in Paris. Which is why I used that comparison. Ah.... I missed that one. Maybe then. Though AMPAS loves Woody Allen, they even tossed him yet another screenplay nom last year despite all the controversy of child abuse and whatnot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acsc1312 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I would consider both Arquette and Hawke leads in terms of screentime, but I suppose story wise they would be supporting. Either way, get them the nominations and hopefully a win for Arquette! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 I would consider both Arquette and Hawke leads in terms of screentime, but I suppose story wise they would be supporting. Either way, get them the nominations and hopefully a win for Arquette! I think someone said Arquette is only in the movie for about 40 minutes if you time it. it's a 165 minute movie. so in terms of screentime I'm not sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) I would consider both Arquette and Hawke leads in terms of screentime, but I suppose story wise they would be supporting. Either way, get them the nominations and hopefully a win for Arquette! Arquette's screentime is pitiful tho.... It's something less than half an hour in 3 hours of film. Someone on AW timed this the other day... Hawke is close to 1 hour. EDIT: Someone on AW counted 30 minutes and someone quoted someone on IMDB who coutned 23 minutes. Either way, it's pitifully short. Edited December 10, 2014 by riczhang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 I'm surprised Hawke is in it more. feels like it's the other way around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdong123 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 EMMA STONE!! Although I know she won't win, but yasssss!! Into The Woods is snubbed tho for the ensemble cast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acsc1312 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think someone said Arquette is only in the movie for about 40 minutes if you time it. it's a 165 minute movie. so in terms of screentime I'm not sure. I stand corrected. She totally seemed in it longer than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acsc1312 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Still not getting the Stone love. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Best actress should include Woodley and it's not even an opinion. Her not being included is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 WTF at Watts being nominated, she was easily the weakest part of St. Vincent And lol at riczhang breaking down about random shit off-the-wall predicts (TOE being this year's DBC, expecting a Hawke and Ruffalo snub at the Oscars, Eddie WINNING) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Honestly, ric, you saying that Hawke is the lead/co-lead of Boyhood makes me wonder if you even saw the movie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 The Fault in Our Stars has one of the best performances of the year with Shaileen...seriously upset that she was snubbed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gary Scott Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Happy for Carell hope he can get a Oscar nom 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 So I'm assuming that Selma is this year's Django/Wolf of Wall Street memorial "whoops, forgot to send out screeners to the SAG!" award winner? Anyway, hell yea, Jake! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 So I'm assuming that Selma is this year's Django/Wolf of Wall Street memorial "whoops, forgot to send out screeners to the SAG!" award winner? Anyway, hell yea, Jake! Hopefully b/c Selma did more screenings than Django and WOWS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
