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I want to see Dvd numbers from ten years ago or better vhs tapes in the mid 90 s to see how " big" Frozen really is (not).

You can't really compare home video sales now to 10 years ago. Video sales for movies now suck with a few exceptions like Avatar or Frozen. Also piracy is a huge problem. :P

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You can't really compare home video sales now to 10 years ago. Video sales for movies now suck with a few exceptions like Avatar or Frozen. Also piracy is a huge problem. :P

In all fairness, he did specifically ask about Frozen.

And that mother fucker sold like its 2004.

It was big. Period,

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I want to see Dvd numbers from ten years ago or better vhs tape...

 

Beside that the complete HV business has changed way too much to compare that directly, also details like inflation... , preizes per tape/ disc... changed a lot too

 

2003 VHS

Rank Title Units* Release Gross*

1 Finding Nemo 3.71 Nov. 04 77.90

2 Chamber of Secrets 2.42 Apr. 11 50.80

3 My Greek Wedding 2.02 Feb. 11 40.40

4 Sweet Home Alabama 1.48 Feb. 04 30.60

5 101 Dalmatians II 1.08 Jan. 21 26.90

6 The Santa Clause 2 1.30 Nov. 18 25.90

7 Jungle Book 2 1.02 Jun. 10 25.50

8 Treasure Planet 1.01 Apr. 29 25.30

9 Stitch! The Movie 1.09 Aug. 26 25.00

10 The Two Towers 1.25 Aug. 26 24.90

11 Pirates of the Caribbean 1.16 Dec. 02 24.40

12 Spy Kids 2 1.05 Feb. 18 24.20

13 Signs 1.05 Jan. 07 24.10

14 Bruce Almighty 1.00 Nov. 25 19.90

15 The Lion King 0.82 Oct. 07 18.00

16 Lizzie McGuire 0.73 Aug. 12 15.40

17 Lilo & Stitch 0.67 Dec. 03 14.70

18 Bringing Down... 0.50 Aug. 05 12.00

19 Chicago 0.55 Aug. 19 12.00

20 Ice Age 0.92 Nov. 26 11.00

23 Jonah 0.71 Mar. 04 10.00

 

 

2003 DVD sales

Rank Title Units* Release Gross*

1 Finding Nemo 18.50 Nov. 04  320.40 

2 The Two Towers 14.75   Aug. 26   280.50

3 Pirates of the Caribbean 13.30 Dec. 02   235.30  

4 Chamber of Secrets 9.45 Apr. 11   168.00    

5 Temple Of Doom 3.30 Oct. 21     153.40

6 The Matrix Reloaded 8.35 Oct. 14     145.30

7 The Lion King 7.99    Oct. 07  136.40

8 My Greek Wedding    7.18 Feb. 11  124.40

9 Signs 6.40 Jan. 07   115.80

10 Bruce Almighty 5.60 Nov. 25  100.90 

11 Seabiscuit 5.50   Dec. 16   98.90

12 Sweet Home Alabama 5.35 Feb. 04   98.10  

13 xXx 5.50 Apr. 19  96.70 

14 X2 5.30 Nov. 25  92.40 

15 Chicago 5.20 Aug. 19  92.10 

16 8 Mile 5.35 Mar. 18  91.80 

17 The Bourne Identity 4.80 Jan. 21  89.20 

18 Bad Boys II 4.85 Dec. 09    84.70 

19 The Santa Clause 2 4.65 Nov. 18   84.40

20 Old School 4.54 Jun. 10  83.20 

21 Die Another Day 4.80 Jun. 03 8 0.60 

22 2 Fast 2 Furious   4.46 Sep. 30   78.40

  23 Scarface 3.70 Sep. 30   78.20  

24 Terminator 3 4.23 Nov. 11   76.90

25 Freaky Friday 4.20 Dec. 16   73.30  

 

Be aware, those numbers are NOT the final numbers per title, they are the numbers the title made in the year the chart is about = Finding Nemo made e.g. $8.5m in 2004 with VHS at that time VHS was already 'dying'

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Top 20 Selling Blu-ray Discs for the Week Ended 03/08/15
Rank Title Studio Index*
1 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay — Part 1 Lionsgate 100.00
2 Big Hero 6 Disney 39.45
3 Tinker Bell and the Legend of the NeverBeast Disney 23.80
4 Horrible Bosses 2 Warner 4.28
5 Outlander: Season 1 Vol. 1 Sony Pictures 3.88
6 Game of Thrones: The Complete Fourth Season HBO 3.84
7 101 Dalmatians Disney 3.74
8 Foxcatcher Sony Pictures 3.42
9 The Interview Sony Pictures 2.75
10 Birdman Fox 2.54
11 John Wick Lionsgate 2.50
12 Fury Sony Pictures 2.38
13 Dumb and Dumber To Universal 2.19
14 Whiplash Sony Pictures 1.99
15 The Hunger Games: Catching Fire Lionsgate 1.84
16 Guardians of the Galaxy Disney/Marvel 1.80
17 Barbie in Princess Power Universal 1.79
18 Dracula Untold Universal 1.68
19 Lucy Universal 1.48
20 Sons of Anarchy: The Final Season Fox 1.40

 

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Anyone here who knows how to post a spreadsheet?

 

I added all 2013 details I've found (16 titles) and all already released 2014 details in an .xls file, so when the last 5 title's details are released I could post the ~ comparison

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I'm just wondering, how did they get the 'final' ww BO number for Big Hero 6?

 

That $400m international without China seems very wrong

 

How the DVDs,... sales?

 

Do they even have actual numbers or only calculate them out of average datas of the market?

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I'm just wondering, how did they get the 'final' ww BO number for Big Hero 6?

 

That $400m international without China seems very wrong

 

How the DVDs,... sales?

 

Do they even have actual numbers or only calculate them out of average datas of the market?

Was wondering that too. They did the same for TH3.

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Was wondering that too. They did the same for TH3.

 

I hate such kind of 'articles'

 

Now I am very sceptical about their other datas too, before I was so happy to get some international numbers usually rather difficult to find (especially that early) for an explicit title...

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TMNT's dom home entertainment is also very wrong. Actual nearly $100m ($98.38m till 22 Feb.) alone via hard disc sales, means without rentals,.... but they filled in only $60m for dom Home Entertainment.

Maybe they looked it up at the end of 2014? To me that looks like a rather sloppy work

 

Too often the dom Home Entertainment is 40% of the dom BO, only a few exceptions.

 

edit:

 

in todays screendaily news

 

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles has opened in all of its overseas markets, taking a $294.8m slice of the box office as of March 8.

 

deadline has only $231.67m filled in

 

 

Worthless grrrr

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The one thing that the Deadline profit data shows is that 2014 was really the year of Disney; not Fox as some tried to make the case for. Disney has a bunch of blockbusters that are very high up on the list. No other Studio has so many profitable movies so high.

 

Also, we can see that not all OS grosses are created equally. China still only gives Studios about 25% of the box office. That's why comparing OS grosses even amongst movies released in the same year is so tricky. Two $500M OS grossing films will have much different profit margins if Movie A has $300M of that OS gross from China and movie B only has $100M of that OS gross from China. Comparing films domestically is still an easier apples to apples comparison.

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