Thursday #s: :/

[MinaTakla]

is it a horror or a thriller? It looked like a horror movie and I hate horror, so I wasn't going to watch it - but all these positive reviews are good.

Not horror (except a few scenes) but very much a thriller and extremely well done!

[CoolioD1]

I'm not surprised about the gift. the previous movie joel wrote and his brother directed, the square, is really good.

[terrestrial]

Minions    $1,644,500    -6%    3,575    -343    $460    $295,354,120    4    
Trainwreck    $1,086,800    -13%    2,860    -311    $380    $84,801,830    3    
Shaun the Sheep Movie    $719,211    -16%    2,202    --    $327    $1,571,338    0    
Jurassic World    $408,010    -16%    1,700    -661    $240    $633,726,780    8    

Someone mentioned the GOP dabate might have an impact on Mr. Holmes, if at all
Mr. Holmes    $234,095    -21%    898    212    $261    $11,519,635    3    

Ted 2    $36,890    -26%    434    -118    $85    $80,743,945    6  

[terrestrial]

Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation    $4,510,482    -13%    3,956    --    $1,140    $79,254,207

 

Terminator Genisys    $94,629    -16%    736    -966    $129    $88,181,273    5

Edited August 7, 2015 by terrestrial

[MrFanaticGuy34]

For those who think MI5 won't hit 200M....let me tell you.....MI2 got to $215M with a similar opening weekend but had less stellar WOM.

So I don't see this one with amazing WOM, will miss 200M.

No panicking guys.

Edited August 7, 2015 by MrFanaticGuy34

[Plain Old Tele]

For those who think MI5 won't hit 200M....let me tell you.....MI2 got to $215M with a similar opening weekend but had less stellar WOM.

So I don't see this one with amazing WOM, will miss 200M.

No panicking guys.

 

Movies were far leggier in 2000 than they are today.

[RichWS]

Movies were far leggier in 2000 than they are today.

 

This just makes me think about the reception MI2 would get if released today.

[MrFanaticGuy34]

So you mean that movie sequels nowadays, no matter how great they are...will and always be frontloaded?

Every franchise sequel?

[Plain Old Tele]

So you mean that movie sequels nowadays, no matter how great they are...will and always be frontloaded?

Every franchise sequel?

 

No, just that generally speaking, today's movies are way more frontloaded than a decade ago. They've got midnight shows, they open in more theaters, and they have shorter theatrical runs.... all of which mean shorter legs.

 

In 2000, for example, X-MEN's 2.89x was considered awful. Now that's a pretty solid multiplier for a CBM.

Edited August 7, 2015 by Telemachos

[terrestrial]

For those who think MI5 won't hit 200M....let me tell you.....MI2 got to $215M with a similar opening weekend but had less stellar WOM.

So I don't see this one with amazing WOM, will miss 200M.

No panicking guys.

 

Not panicking, as I am a general movie business fan and my main 'goal' is, that hopefully a lot of studios will exist in the future too (small, middle and big ones) and also cinemas for themselfes...

 

Till now (some speak about MI6 being a week-end-performer, so it might change) MI5 bahaves rather similar to Ant-Man

 

Comparing Ant-Man to CA 1 (final ~ $176m) I do not think Ant-Man will surpass it, I think it might end $5m to $10m under that result.

 

= if MI5 is not a weekend-performer I am guessing it will not reach $200m

 

A visualiastion of that is here to see

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Ant-Man/Mission-Impossible-Rogue-Nation/Captain-America

 

But as upcoming competion (new releases) seems to be weak, both movies might have a chance to improve... but sometimes ppl tend to not develop the 'hunger' to go to the cinemas, if there are not at least a few 'big' movies to chose from... so: a lot is possible, nothing is sure and no reason for BO panic    is to me comprehandable anyway

Edited August 7, 2015 by terrestrial

[CJohn]

No, just that generally speaking, today's movies are way more frontloaded than a decade ago. They've got midnight shows, they open in more theaters, and they have shorter theatrical runs.... all of which mean shorter legs.

 

In 2000, for example, X-MEN's 2.89x was considered awful. Now that's a pretty solid multiplier for a CBM.

Then people saw the multiplier of X-Men 3 and Origins and regretted that.  

[terrestrial]

^^ that was meant in addition to Tele's post...

 

Ant-Man    $1,505,274    -9%    3,322    -546    $453    $139,610,546    3

Inside Out (2015)    $659,255    -5%    1,793    -691    $368    $332,686,150    7

Edited August 7, 2015 by terrestrial

[e1828]

Largest DOMESTIC Totals – After Day 28

1) Jurassic World – $572,538,320 (Thu - $3,251,190)

2) Marvel’s The Avengers - $532,463,980 (Thu - $2,774,984)

3) The Dark Knight - $454,702,857 (Thu - $2,814,471) 
4) Avatar - $450,467,005 (Thu - $4,698,802)

5) Avengers: Age of Ultron - $416,150,025 (Thu - $1,402,043)

6) The Dark Knight Rises - $398,775,911 (Thu - $2,032,209)

7) Iron Man 3 -

$376,745,285 (Thu - $1,162,570)

8) Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - $368,697,958 (Thu - $2,310,578) 

9) Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - $367,614,540 (Tue - $2,030,801)

10) The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - $362,953,796 (Thu - $1,363,833)

11) Shrek 2 - $359,054,821 (Tue - $2,843,617)

12) Toy Story 3 - $350,967,102 (Thu - $2,513,639)

13) Harry Potter 7b:  Deathly Hallows Part 2 - $350,085,941 (Thu - $1,522,004)

14) The Hunger Games - $342,400,460 (Thu - $1,439,178)

15) Spiderman - $339,506,133 (Thu - $2,004,576) 

16) Star Wars 3: ROTS - $336,736,523 (Wed - $1,351,744)

17) Spiderman 2 - $332,378,153 (Tue - $2,042,326) 

18) Transformers: Dark of the Moon - $329,134,061 (Tue - $1,715,375)

19) Furious 7 - $324,424,355 (Thu - $763,050)

20) Lord Of The Rings: ROTK - $314,567,189 (Tue - $1,148,156) 

21) Despicable Me 2 - $311,818,160 (Tue - $2,728,660)

22) Spiderman 3 - $310,764,055 (Thu - $1,011,936) 

23) Star Wars 1: TPM - $303,061,673 (Tue - $3,071,497)

24) Alice in Wonderland - $301,525,693 (Thu - $2,066,003)

25) The Passion Of The Christ - $299,121,441 (Tue - $1,841,295)

26) Minions - $295,354,120 (Thu - $1,644,500)

27) Inside Out - $294,702,966 (Thu - $2,232,577)

28) Shrek The Third - $288,242,056 (Thu - $1,756,959)

29) American Sniper -

$287,698,293 (Thu - $1,477,178)(1)

30) Transformers - $286,203,726 (Mon - $1,526,592)

31) Lord Of The Rings: TT - $285,656,037 (Tue - $1,195,294)

32) Iron Man 2 - $283,511,162 (Thu - $1,251,538)

33) The Twilight Saga:  Eclipse - $282,063,266 (Tue - $1,153,384)

34) The Hunger Games:  Mockingjay Part 1 - $281,476,689 (Thu - $1,086,893)

35) Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - $280,951,091 (Wed - $1,478,470) 

36) Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End - $279,799,630 (Thu - $1,344,484)

37) Harry Potter 6:  HBP - $276,456,321 (Tue - $1,316,315)

38) Man of Steel - $276,169,878 (Thu - $1,011,103)

39) The Twilight Saga:  Breaking Dawn Part 2 - $271,690,069 (Thu - $717,537)

40) The Twilight Saga:  New Moon - $270,190,721 (Thu - $721,275)
41) The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - $269,044,187 (Thu - $1,152,410)

42) Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $264,078,779 (Tue - $1,424,156)

43) Iron Man - $262,625,072 (Thu - $1,389,865)

44) The Twilight Saga:  Breaking Dawn Part 1 - $262,130,081 (Thu - $678,675)

45) Harry Potter 7a:  Deathly Hallows Part 1 - $260,701,257 (Thu - $777,003)

46) Star Wars 2: AOTC - $259,739,676 (Wed - $1,495,286)

47) Guardians of the Galaxy - $258,297,268 (Thu - $1,562,456)

48) The Matrix: Reloaded - $250,729,765 (Wed - $946,436)

49) Skyfall - $250,620,080 (Thu - $1,186,424)

50) Harry Potter 4: GOF - $246,645,807 (Thu - $581,373)

51) Monsters University - $243,992,254 (Thu - $1,327,433)

52) Harry Potter 1: SS - $243,349,983 (Thu - $902,000)

 

1)     Includes $3.4 million before wide release

 

·         Avatar becomes the fourth fastest to reach $450 million on Day 28.

·         Toy Story 3 overtakes Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 as both movies pass $350 million on the same day.

·         Crossing $300 million on Day 28:  Star Wars Episode I:  The Phantom Menace and Alice in Wonderland.

·         Crossing $250 million on Day 28:  The Matrix: Reloaded and Skyfall.

[e1828]

Largest DOMESTIC Totals – After Day 49

1) Jurassic World – $627,699,630 (Thu - $779,130)

2) Avatar - $606,493,323 (Thu - $2,703,975)

3) Marvel’s The Avengers - $591,247,781 (Thu - $1,054,517)

4) The Dark Knight - $506,482,539 (Thu - $528,416) 
5) Avengers: Age of Ultron - $446,599,953 (Thu - $426,496)

6) The Dark Knight Rises - $434,564,293 (Thu - $387,369)

7) Shrek 2 - $411,804,318 (Tue - $1,115,812)

8) The Hunger Games: Catching Fire -

$409,392,651 (Thu - $496,498)

9) Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - $403,565,356 (Thu - $589,730)

10) Iron Man 3 - $400,945,222 (Thu - $275,788)

11) Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - $394,446,105 (Tue - $380,399)

12) Toy Story 3 - $393,268,254 (Thu - $832,838)

13) Spiderman - $385,826,381 (Thu - $791,946) 

14) The Hunger Games - $382,501,686 (Thu - $465,692)

15) Star Wars 1: TPM - $374,889,918 (Tue - $1,722,948)

16) Harry Potter 7b:  Deathly Hallows Part 2 - $372,150,983 (Thu - $306,094)

17) Star Wars 3: ROTS - $367,688,930 (Wed - $574,938)

18) Spiderman 2 - $361,891,163 (Tue - $444,483) 

19) The Passion Of The Christ - $355,236,096 (Tue - $931,815)

20) Transformers: Dark of the Moon - $347,624,217 (Tue - $183,228)

21) Despicable Me 2 - $347,223,835 (Tue - $581,760)

22) Lord Of The Rings: ROTK - $346,118,913 (Tue - $399,383) 

23) Furious 7 - $344,889,185 (Thu - $256,280)

24) American Sniper - $332,698,979 (Thu - $457,340)(1)

25) Inside Out - $332,686,150(Thu - $659,255)

26) Spiderman 3 - $331,248,484 (Thu - $310,557)

27) The Hunger Games:  Mockingjay Part 1 -

$325,774,553 (Thu - $426,837)

28) Alice in Wonderland - $325,272,926 (Thu - $283,216)

29) Frozen - $319,056,905 (Tue - $976,359)(2)

30) Lord Of The Rings: TT - $316,702,284 (Tue - $361,653)

31) Shrek The Third - $315,202,414 (Thu - $344,020)

32) Titanic - $314,327,828 (Thu - $1,536,474)

33) Guardians of the Galaxy - $308,489,031 (Thu - $557,622)

34) Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - $307,795,294 (Wed - $467,317) 

35) Transformers - $306,746,846 (Mon - $258,924)

36) Iron Man 2 - $305,507,269 (Thu - $322,105)

37) Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End - $303,057,674 (Thu - $234,829)

38) Iron Man - $300,785,869 (Thu - $743,079)

39) Finding Nemo - $296,519,997 (Thu - $1,287,681)

40) The Twilight Saga:  Eclipse - $296,268,343 (Tue - $211,187)

41) Harry Potter 6:  HBP - $294,707,345 (Tue - $221,140)

42) Harry Potter 1: SS - $294,474,009 (Thu - $1,268,000)

43) The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - $294,292,520 (Thu - $241,040)

44) The Twilight Saga:  New Moon - $289,039,470 (Thu - $240,929)

45) Star Wars 2: AOTC - $288,161,451 (Wed - $632,263)

46) The Twilight Saga:  Breaking Dawn Part 2 - $287,756,286 (Thu - $351,025)

47) Man of Steel - $287,214,823 (Thu - $92,458)

 

1)     Includes $3.4 million before wide release

2)     Includes $342K before wide release.

 

·         Finding Nemo overtakes The Twilight Saga: Eclipse.

Edited August 7, 2015 by e1828

[MrFanaticGuy34]

Gravity wasn't that frontloaded, and it ended at $274M DOM on a $55M OW.

[e1828]

Largest DOMESTIC Totals – After Day 56

1) Avatar - $637,605,653 (Thu - $2,135,304)

2) Jurassic World – $633,726,780 (Thu - $408,010)

3) Marvel’s The Avengers - $602,083,073 (Thu - $867,338)

4) The Dark Knight - $513,664,611 (Thu - $426,158) 
5) Avengers: Age of Ultron - $450,785,255 (Thu - $306,094)

6) The Dark Knight Rises - $438,870,629 (Thu - $256,085)

7) Shrek 2 -

$420,140,444 (Tue - $862,560)

8) The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - $414,999,792 (Thu - $285,555)

9) Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - $409,098,046 (Thu - $331,723)

10) Iron Man 3 - $404,032,056 (Thu - $209,010)

11) Toy Story 3 - $398,602,095 (Thu - $568,712)

12) Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - $397,122,551 (Tue - $187,634)

13) Spiderman - $392,744,257 (Thu - $608,777) 

14) The Hunger Games - $388,631,110 (Thu - $384,315)

15) Star Wars 1: TPM - $387,465,405 (Tue - $1,215,923)

16) Harry Potter 7b:  Deathly Hallows Part 2 - $376,103,101 (Thu - $168,234)

17) Star Wars 3: ROTS - $371,863,119 (Wed - $358,587)

18) Spiderman 2 - $365,732,747 (Tue - $282,171) 

19) The Passion Of The Christ - $361,483,659 (Tue - $365,947)

20) Lord Of The Rings: ROTK - $351,711,227 (Tue - $282,298) 

21) Despicable Me 2 - $351,388,170 (Tue - $350,555)

22) Transformers: Dark of the Moon - $348,687,050 (Tue - $76,867)

23) Furious 7 - $348,243,950 (Thu - $140,480)

24) Titanic - $343,394,297 (Thu - $1,716,570)

25) American Sniper - $338,569,563 (Thu - $354,030)(1)

26) Frozen -

$337,450,104 (Tue - $750,191)(2)

27) Spiderman 3 - $333,091,273 (Thu - $132,017)

28) The Hunger Games:  Mockingjay Part 1 - $330,643,639 (Thu - $226,774)

29) Alice in Wonderland - $328,208,441 (Thu - $156,065)

30) Lord Of The Rings: TT - $321,346,057 (Tue - $259,670)

31) Shrek The Third - $317,417,794 (Thu - $117,552)

32) Guardians of the Galaxy - $315,403,275 (Thu - $476,867)

33) Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - $311,330,905 (Wed - $290,508) 

34) Finding Nemo - $308,728,248 (Thu - $1,162,024)

35) Transformers - $308,714,893 (Mon - $117,728)

36) Iron Man 2 - $307,654,463 (Thu - $160,947)

37) Iron Man - $306,922,205 (Thu - $537,624)

38) Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End - $305,304,399 (Thu - $230,774)

39) Harry Potter 1: SS - $301,637,555 (Thu - $269,000)

 

1)     Includes $3.4 million before wide release

2)     Includes $342K before wide release.

 

·         For the fourth consecutive day Finding Nemo gains another spot.

[MrFanaticGuy34]

I think the problem is that the MI-franchise isn't treated like a huge franchise, unfortunately & sadly.

[Plain Old Tele]

Gravity wasn't that frontloaded, and it ended at $274M DOM on a $55M OW.

 

Yes, of course there are always exceptions. MI5 may become one of those exceptions, but there's no indication that will happen... yet.

[MrFanaticGuy34]

Cruise's reaction of not having a single $300M DOM-grosser and a $1B-grosser as of yet:

 

[RamblinRed]

So you mean that movie sequels nowadays, no matter how great they are...will and always be frontloaded?

Every franchise sequel?

in general yes because pricing is radically different than 15 years ago.

 

!5 years ago you basically had no 3D, no premium seating and not much IMAX.

Now you have all of those and most of the revenue for those formats is generated in the first 2 weeks before those formats move on to the next contracted release for those formats.

 

Nothing in MI5 performance to this point suggests it will get anywhere near 200M, though we really need to watch about another week before I think you can say that will be the case. Somewhere around 175M looks like the most likely outcome given its current 1st week numbers. it's going to need a large weekend to change that thought process as the weekdays were solid but unspectacular. The odds would be against it right now, but lets wait and see what the weekend holds.