Not So Fantastic Weekend Thread | MI5 29.4, F4 26.2, Gift 12, Ricki 7, Shaun 4, Vac 9, AM 7.8

[MrPink]

God, I remember when Variety and Deadline were saying that.. I was like this:

Then the Real Numbers come in and I was this:

I know that feel bro

[Clef Ment]

LMAO @ Floptastic Flop. The public is so sick of being treated like fucking idiots. Marvel single-handedly destroyed people's appetite for comic book movies. When people see an ad for a yet another comic book movie (by Mavel or not), they want to projectile-vomit, especially if it's another reboot. 

 

Yes, that's why Avengers 2 made $1.4B and Ant-Man will do around $450M.

 

No doubt Civil War and Dr Strange will bomb too!

Edited August 9, 2015 by Clef Ment

[grey ghost]

I guess I was unclear. TA1 completely broke through to mainstream mega blockbuster, like SM1 and TDK had. (I think TDK's ticket sales are actually slightly above TA1's, no 3D, comparatively minimal IMAX, and before 4 years of 2D inflation from 08-12.)

SM1 and Batman '89 were the ones to get closest to those in ticket sales. SM2, TDKR and AOU were the only ones to get close to B89/SM1.

Then you have a $40-50M gap to the next highest film, IM3, and SM3 adjusted just below $400M. (Though with the IMAX for TDKR abd 3D/IMAX/PLF for IM3 and Ultron, I have no idea where their ticket sales fall. Could SM3, with all 2D and a lot of child tickets, have sold as much/more tickets than IM3?)

 

 

Adjusted for inflation there are only two movies since the year 2000 that have made more domestic than TDK and Avengers:

 

Jurassic World and Avatar.

 

In other words, superhero movies have a threshold that barely anything else can match.

[Ethan Hunt]

ANT-MAN is kicking ass quietly.. So, could one consider ANT-MAN a sleeper hit???

No... Ant-Man is doing about what was expected of it if not a little more. Something along the lines of Now You See Me would be a sleeper hit

[Caboose]

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[grim22]

ANT-MAN is kicking ass quietly.. So, could one consider ANT-MAN a sleeper hit???

A sleeper hit is one which no one sees coming and has a long and leggy run. Everyone in BSG predicted Ant-Man around 160M. So no, it isn't a sleeper hit, no more than MI5.

Trainwreck on the other hand, is a sleeper hit. NYSM was one of the bigger sleeper hits of the past few years. GOTG was a sleeper hit.

Edited August 9, 2015 by grim22

[terrestrial]

Don't know if this was posted, but I didn't see it.

@BoxOffice: FANTASTIC FOUR: $34.05M Overseas Total / $60.25M Global Total #FantasticFour

Nope, I was waiting for that detail, thanks

 

Under 100 million worldwide?

Fantastic 4 'only' opened this weekend in (putting it in spoiler-tags for length reason)

Egypt	5 August 2015
France	5 August 2015
Iceland	5 August 2015
Jamaica	5 August 2015
Philippines	5 August 2015
Trinidad and Tobago	5 August 2015
Argentina	6 August 2015
Australia	6 August 2015
Bahrain	6 August 2015
Bolivia	6 August 2015
Brazil	6 August 2015
Colombia	6 August 2015
Czech Republic	6 August 2015
Denmark	6 August 2015
Dominican Republic	6 August 2015
UK	6 August 2015
Greece	6 August 2015
Hong Kong	6 August 2015
Croatia	6 August 2015
Hungary	6 August 2015
Ireland	6 August 2015
Israel	6 August 2015
Iraq	6 August 2015
Jordan	6 August 2015
South Korea	6 August 2015
Kuwait	6 August 2015
Kazakhstan	6 August 2015
Lebanon	6 August 2015
Republic of Macedonia	6 August 2015
Mexico	6 August 2015
Malaysia	6 August 2015
Netherlands	6 August 2015
New Zealand	6 August 2015
Oman	6 August 2015
Peru	6 August 2015
Puerto Rico	6 August 2015
Portugal	6 August 2015
Qatar	6 August 2015
Serbia	6 August 2015
Singapore	6 August 2015
Slovenia	6 August 2015
Thailand	6 August 2015
Ukraine	6 August 2015
Uruguay	6 August 2015
Austria	7 August 2015
Bulgaria	7 August 2015
Canada	7 August 2015
Ecuador	7 August 2015
Estonia	7 August 2015
Finland	7 August 2015
Lithuania	7 August 2015
Latvia	7 August 2015
Norway	7 August 2015
Pakistan	7 August 2015
Romania	7 August 2015
Sweden	7 August 2015
Turkey	7 August 2015
Taiwan	7 August 2015
USA	7 August 2015
Venezuela	7 August 2015
Vietnam	7 August 2015

It still has to opeen in:

Indonesia	12 August 2015
United Arab Emirates	13 August 2015
Germany	13 August 2015
Cambodia	13 August 2015
Mongolia	14 August 2015
Poland	14 August 2015
South Africa	14 August 2015
Chile	20 August 2015
Russia	20 August 2015
Spain	21 August 2015
India	21 August 2015
Belgium	26 August 2015
Italy	10 September 2015
Japan	9 October 2015

[TServo2049]

I get what you're saying, grey. Since 2000, the big over-$500M-at-2015-prices breakouts have been (not in order of tickets sold):

Spider-Man 1

Return of the King*

Shrek 2

Pirates 2

TDK

Avatar

Avengers 1

Jurassic World

*BOM adjusts ROTK's original run to just $311k shy of $500M, but with inflation+3D/IMAX/PLF I think its admissions would come out to $500M in 2015 value.

Pretty well-balanced group of tentpoles. Though you are right, three out of eight are CBMs. Still, they do have to click just right with the GA at time of release - just like any other tentpole.

I agree with you. All I am saying is that it's just as much a challenge for a CBM tentpole to hit these heights as a non-CBM tentpole. But when it does...

Edited August 9, 2015 by TServo2049

[Gautske]

SM1 and Batman '89 were the ones to get closest to those in ticket sales. SM2, TDKR and AOU were the only ones to get close to B89/SM1.

 

Speaking of Batman '89, I remember how incredibly popular that was at the theater then (also GB 2 and IJ&TLC). HUGE lines for a comic book movie. I was either too young or not really paying attention to the Superman movies then, but Batman '89 wass really my first memory of the absolutely massive GA appeal of a comic book character movie.

 

The Gift is doing well. In contrast, everyone walking out of Fantastic Four is saying "what the fuck was that", "that was utter shit", "why the fuck did we pay £9 for that", I even had a couple of people ask for a refund it was so bad. all my friends hated it. word of mouth is going to be awful, imo it's doing under 50M.

 

I ended up see The Gift this Friday cold, never saw a preview for it. Very much a throwback to all those early 90s stalker thrillers. The theater was quite diverse, mostly 30+, and fairly packed. I would say the movie was "okay," not sure if it really holds up on analysis or on another viewing.

 

Waiting for that showing though, my friend and I were hanging out in front of one of the FF4 theaters (in a 24 screen multiplex) for about 15 min, and we decided to dip into a 1:00 something FF4 showing to see how many people were in there. The credits were just ending, and there was nobody in there. Neither one of us recalled anyone coming out of that theater the whole time we had been talking there either. We both thought, "Wow, this movie is going to totally bomb."

[CJohn]

This is the biggest bomb ever for a major brand. In today's age, I didn't thought it was possible to tank this hard. Even OS it is getting full rejected.

[Maxmoser3]

I hope that this can recoup soon http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2=ytdcompare&view=releasedate&p=.htm

[TServo2049]

Actually, 2015 YTD BO is $7.051B. During the end-of-week numbers update, someone fucked up entering AOU's YTD gross and left off the 4 at the beginning, reducing the 2015 YTD gross by $400M. If you look at the YTD calendar grosses chart, it shows AOU at only $57M.

Edited August 9, 2015 by TServo2049

[Maxmoser3]

Actually, 2015 YTD BO is $7.051B. During the end-of-week numbers update, someone fucked up entering AOU's YTD gross and left off the 4 at the beginning, reducing the 2015 YTD gross by $409M.

dammit Keith

[TServo2049]

Way ahead of you. I was just trying to generate a Picard facepalm, but you replied before I was done with the edit.

[Ethan Hunt]

The head scratcher of the summer for me is still Ted 2, no idea what happens there

[grey ghost]

[Maxmoser3]

Way ahead of you. I was just trying to generate a Picard facepalm, but you replied before I was done with the edit.

eh it still works, Keith has fucked up Box Office Mojo must've been hungover from the night before.

[CJohn]

The hate he received for getting cast was absurd. That was the right answer at the time. The movie is absolute ass, tho. It deserves to bomb. Edited August 9, 2015 by CJohn

[Avatree]

The head scratcher of the summer for me is still Ted 2, no idea what happens there

It performed fine for a comedy, it just had a lot more money spent on it than usual. Comedy brands are a bit rocky, they can be very of-the-moment.

[Chewy]

26.2M is a pretty good opening day for Fant4stic