Weekend Estimates (pg49): Mockingjay 101M | Spectre 14.6M | Night Before 10.1M | SITE 6.63M

[department store basement]

3 minutes ago, Filmovie said:

many many flop/disappointments

 

I can't name any other movies that really had high expectations and then flopped other than F4 and Pixels. (Maybe Vacation as well?) Most of the other movies deemed "flop" on here either did well but not to absurdly high expectations, or were never expected to do well to begin with. I actually thought Genisys, Tomorrowland, and Ted 2 would do worse than they actually did.

[Filmovie]

1 minute ago, department store basement said:

 

I can't name any other movies that really had high expectations and then flopped other than F4 and Pixels. (Maybe Vacation as well?) Most of the other movies deemed "flop" on here either did well but not to absurdly high expectations, or were never expected to do well to begin with. I actually thought Genisys, Tomorrowland, and Ted 2 would do worse than they actually did.

 

I meant in general: look at October.

 

 

[department store basement]

Okay if you meant the box office in general then you're probably right.

[John Marston]

What are Spectre 'a chances for 200m?

 

[picores]

5 minutes ago, John Marston said:

What are Spectre 'a chances for 200m?

 

 

Slim.

[Ryan Reynolds]

lol, I guess LG should have had a Bella Swan crossover in MJ2, what went wrong?

[PenguinHyphy]

2 hours ago, filmlover said:

Pretty much. The ad campaign was largely muted and unpersuasive.

 

It has certainly been unpersuasive, but it has not been anywhere near muted. They have spent nearly $20,000,000 on television advertising alone, and it has even been marketed through shows (for instance, a whole episode of Lip Sync Battle centered around it). 

[Bishop54]

2 hours ago, water said:

 

the fact that you're making me do this

 

1	Avatar	Fox	$760,507,625	2009^ aliens
2	Titanic	Par.	$658,672,302	1997^ disaster
3	Jurassic World	Uni.	$652,198,011	2015 dinosaurs
4	Marvel's The Avengers	BV	$623,357,910	2012 superheroes
5	The Dark Knight	WB	$534,858,444	2008^ superheroes
6	Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace	Fox	$474,544,677	1999^ scifi, magic, aliens, etc.
7	Star Wars	Fox	$460,998,007	1977^ scifi, magic, aliens, etc.
8	Avengers: Age of Ultron	BV	$459,005,868	2015 superheroes
9	The Dark Knight Rises	WB	$448,139,099	2012 superheroes
10	Shrek 2	DW	$441,226,247	2004 cartoon
11	E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial	Uni.	$435,110,554	1982^ aliens
12	The Hunger Games: Catching Fire	LGF	$424,668,047	2013 hunger games
13	Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest	BV	$423,315,812	2006 pirates
14	The Lion King	BV	$422,783,777	1994^ cartoon
15	Toy Story 3	BV	$415,004,880	2010 cartoon
16	Iron Man 3	BV	$409,013,994	2013 superheroes
17	The Hunger Games	LGF	$408,010,692	2012 hunger games
18	Spider-Man	Sony	$403,706,375	2002 superheroes
19	Jurassic Park	Uni.	$402,453,882	1993^ dinosaurs
20	Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen	P/DW	$402,111,870	2009 robots
21	Frozen	BV	$400,738,009	2013 cartoon
22	Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2	WB	$381,011,219	2011 magic
23	Finding Nemo	BV	$380,843,261	2003^ cartoon
24	Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith	Fox	$380,270,577	2005^ scifi, magic, aliens, etc.
25	The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King	NL	$377,845,905	2003^ fantasy
26	Spider-Man 2	Sony	$373,585,825	2004 superheroes
27	The Passion of the Christ	NM	$370,782,930	2004^ religion
28	Despicable Me 2	Uni.	$368,061,265	2013 cartoon
29	Inside Out	BV	$356,158,534	2015 cartoon
30	Furious 7	Uni.	$352,786,830	2015 death of main character's actor
31	Transformers: Dark of the Moon	P/DW	$352,390,543	2011 robots
32	American Sniper	WB	$350,126,372	2014 racism
33	The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers	NL	$342,551,365	2002^ fantasy
34	The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1	LGF	$337,135,885	2014 ???? a character-driven look at a girl's complex emotions
35	Spider-Man 3	Sony	$336,530,303	2007 superheroes
36	Minions	Uni.	$335,517,165	2015 cartoon
37	Alice in Wonderland (2010)	BV	$334,191,110	2010 fantasy, remake/sequel to classic
38	Guardians of the Galaxy	BV	$333,176,600	2014 fantasy, scifi, aliens, etc
39	Forrest Gump	Par.	$330,252,182	1994^ american history, but this one could maybe join the club
40	Shrek the Third	P/DW	$322,719,944	2007 cartoon
41	Transformers	P/DW	$319,246,193	2007 robots
42	Iron Man	Par.	$318,412,101	2008 superheroes
43	Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone	WB	$317,575,550	2001 magic
44	Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull	Par.	$317,101,119	2008 treasure hunting
45	The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring	NL	$315,544,750	2001^ fantasy
46	Iron Man 2	Par.	$312,433,331	2010 superheroes
47	Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones	Fox	$310,676,740	2002^ scifi, magic, aliens, etc.
48	Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End	BV	$309,420,425	2007 pirates, fantasy
49	Return of the Jedi	Fox	$309,306,177	1983^ scifi, magic, aliens, etc.
50	Independence Day	Fox	$306,169,268	1996^ aliens
51	Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl	BV	$305,413,918	2003 pirates, fantasy
52	Skyfall	Sony	$304,360,277	2012 spy, olympics, 50th anniversary, etc.
53	The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey	WB	$303,003,568	2012 fantasy
54	Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince	WB	$301,959,197	2009 magic
55	The Twilight Saga: Eclipse	Sum.	$300,531,751	2010 vampires, fantasy, etc.

 

How the hell are dinosaurs a gimmick?

[kayumanggi]

Abort the thread.

[MovieMan89]

Going to take a big beating in the winter game this weekend...

[Spidey Freak]

I think the word Water wants to use is "hook" instead of "gimmick". In that sense, yeah I can see how Mockingjay Pt. 1 had the least audience-friendly hook among the 300M club.

 

Still though, it was the third instalment of a successful franchise. Isn't that a hook in itself?

[FTF]

18 minutes ago, Bishop54 said:

How the hell are dinosaurs a gimmick?

 

Cause he's gone full looney mode

 

And if somehow the number goes below $47m when the new estimates or rth posts, oh boy.

Edited November 21, 2015 by FTF

[theultimatebiu]

WOW. Actually, its not that shocking. MJ2 was not getting the hype of previous installments, add the depressing nature of the movie and above average reviews and you have a mild event. LG will be very unhappy.

[Fullbuster]

water is just angry about MJ2's number, he completely lost it. Ignore him

 

As for Deadline's forecasts, 104m for MJ2 is terribly low, how could a finale be so far behind the previous installment? Spectre could even miss the 200m bandwagon

[picores]

4 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

water is just angry about MJ2's number, he completely lost it. Ignore him

 

As for Deadline's forecasts, 104m for MJ2 is terribly low, how could a finale be so far behind the previous installment? Spectre could even miss the 200m bandwagon

 

Spectre doing 200m was a pipedream after OW, it was the second weekend hold which gave some hope...now it looks to fall behind M:I-5...

[#ED]

7 hours ago, 4815162342 said:

Guys, I know why MockingJ2y flopped:

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25377030/peyton-manning-benched-by-broncos-brock-osweiler-will-start-in-week-11

 

He is not here to drive the weekend forward.

 

Agreed.

[CJohn]

Dying.

 

Lionsgate can't make a good marketing campaign even if their life depends on it. They will disappear in 10 years. 

[FTF]

Not to keep piling on, but it's almost unfathomable how in only 3 and a half years it could go from its first movie doing $150m ow to its 4th and final movie only doing $100m...are there any other examples of this?? Same series in such a short time having such a fall off?  

[peludo]

We have had a huge year with Jurassic World, Minions or Inside out. I find a bit logical a huge flop like this. Every year has their successes and their failures (if we can call a failure a $700m grosser half book). And fans can always blame certain film that will come within a month... 

 

Anyway, I would had never imagined that MJ2 could make less than $300m

Edited November 21, 2015 by peludo

[Fullbuster]

1 minute ago, CJohn said:

Dying.

 

Lionsgate can't make a good marketing campaign even if their life depends on it. They will disappear in 10 years. 

Disney will buy them out for nothing