redfirebird2008 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 1 minute ago, Salacious Tree Crumb said: Say what you like about the prequels but at least George had spent the time to create something new. For the most part, yeah. But I recently watched TPM and felt like the third act was a huge rehash of ANH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 2 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said: For the most part, yeah. But I recently watched TPM and felt like the third act was a huge rehash of ANH. What Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 1 hour ago, Salacious Tree Crumb said: Say what you like about the prequels but at least George had spent the time to create something new. 1 hour ago, stuart360 said: Even the whole Death Star/Starkiller base thing was badly set up. In ANH you had the meeting where they talked about the final attack and strategy etc, you then had the saying goodbye bits and the X-Wing taking off for the Death Star. In SW7 all you see is General Leia talking to someone, then some person comes a long and says "General Leeia, we have found this weak spot", Leia then says something like "Oh ok, X-Wings get ready for take off" and then the attack starts. Its like zero build up and zero tension. Plus we barely get to see any of the ariel battle/attack, its such a poor 'version' of what was a lengthy and tension and adrenaline filled ending on ANH. If THIS film had launched in 1977 instead of ANH, we wouldn't be here talking about Star Wars now, i'm pretty certain of that!. I think JJ was afraid of Redlettermedia. Therefore we never have those wonderful scenes where they are standing and talking, walking and talking, sitting and talking. Because scenes where two people are standing and talking in a Star Wars scene is a bad Star Wars scene. You see what I mean? The fanboys won the war against George Lucas and all because of them we got this male genitalia of a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 1 hour ago, redfirebird2008 said: For the most part, yeah. But I recently watched TPM and felt like the third act was a huge rehash of ANH. You mean the final act of ROTJ? The opening act in ROTS resembles the third(ish) act in ANH where Han and Luke rescues the princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart360 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 5 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said: For the most part, yeah. But I recently watched TPM and felt like the third act was a huge rehash of ANH. Its set up more like Return of the Jedi to be honest. Lightsabre fight, ground battle, space battle, all at once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charism Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 10 hours ago, Charism said: Helo priviledged people! One of the still waiting-to-see-SW hereby ask you to post a PM with opinions about music. No big spoilers please (something like "XXXs' theme is good", but not "music in the scene when Kylo perforates Han" - I don't want to hear anything about that anymore. ), and thank you for your messages. Obviously I'm not gona read this thread and searching that opinions for myself. Nobody messaged me, so I'm bumping this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 1 minute ago, Amadeus said: You mean the final act of ROTJ? The opening act in ROTS resembles the third(ish) act in ANH where Han and Luke rescues the princess. No, I just got a lot of ANH vibes from the third act of TPM after watching both of them close together. Hadn't seen TPM in a long time. The whole Jedi mentor death thing, protagonist fighter pilot blowing up shit, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stingray Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I have a feeling Tele will dig this. Dash, on the other hand... y pobreci! He's gonna tear this movie to pieces faster than a rabbit gets fucked. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 18 minutes ago, stuart360 said: Plus we barely get to see any of the ariel battle/attack, its such a poor 'version' of what was a lengthy and tension and adrenaline filled ending on ANH. Well, the hero of Star Wars was Luke, a pilot in the attack against the Death Star. Here, our hero is Rey and she is on the ground in this battle. The other characters thinks she needs to be rescued so they are on the ground too, therefore the aerial stuff isn't the main focus. Seeing as how we've had countless aerial battles in the previous 6, I'm okay with that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 That poorly designed, unwieldy anti-light saber staff used by one Stormtrooper against Finn is goofy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 3 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said: No, I just got a lot of ANH vibes from the third act of TPM after watching both of them close together. Hadn't seen TPM in a long time. The whole Jedi mentor death thing, protagonist fighter pilot blowing up shit, etc. Yeah, but it's REALLY Jedi. Three-way space battle, ground battle (involving primitive natives no less), and a lightsaber duel all intercut together. The celebration scene is definitely Star Wars though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart360 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 2 minutes ago, Darth Rallax said: Well, the hero of Star Wars was Luke, a pilot in the attack against the Death Star. Here, our hero is Rey and she is on the ground in this battle. The other characters thinks she needs to be rescued so they are on the ground too, therefore the aerial stuff isn't the main focus. Seeing as how we've had countless aerial battles in the previous 6, I'm okay with that. I get that but they could of added in some more dogfighting etc, thats what the trailers make you think is going to happen. Its the same with the attack on the other planet with the X-Wings flying over the water, you see very little ariel action, barely more than you see in the trailers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Darth Rallax said: Yeah, but it's REALLY Jedi. Three-way space battle, ground battle (involving primitive natives no less), and a lightsaber duel all intercut together. The celebration scene is definitely Star Wars though. Good points. I think the Jedi mentor death thing made it feel more ANH to me but I can definitely see the comparison to Return of the Jedi. Either way he was definitely going in familiar territory and you can really feel it when you watch those old movies around the same time as watching TPM. Edited December 17, 2015 by redfirebird2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 The first time you see C3PO scared the shit out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Surprise me ! Create something new ! I want something new in my life, I want thrills ! Surprise me or else ... Comprehensive list of original world building elements in Force Awakens : A few monsters designs here & there & euh ... ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Just now, The Futurist said: Surprise me ! Create something new ! I want something new in my life, I want thrills ! Surprise me or else ... Comprehensive list of original world building elements in Force Awakens : A few monsters designs here & there & euh ... ... The monster on the Falcon looked like it should have been in Galaxy Quest lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Well the poor reception has really killed the interest that I was really starting to build up... Shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) I just wanted to point out that the first Star Wars was created after the realization by Lucas and his Joseph Campbell readings that originality in storytelling doesn't exist and that everywhere in the world, the same stories have been told for centuries. The first Star Wars had nothing really original (world building aside) in it, by Lucas own admission. Originality is a loose, objective, frail concept. Edited December 17, 2015 by The Futurist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart360 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 2 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said: Well the poor reception has really killed the interest that I was really starting to build up... Shame The film is a solid film, go see it. No one is saying its a bad film, its just not as good as many people hoped it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Just now, stuart360 said: The film is a solid film, go see it. No one is saying its a bad film, its just not as good as many people hoped it would be. Speak for yourself. I think it's a bad film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
