Monday Numbers: 15.05 M BVS | About a 55% drop, better than F7 Easter Monday. EPIC CJohn meltdown starts Page 18.

[fmpro]

If the drop tomorrow are over 10% i wont even bother reading the daily thread if a 15 mill+ number gives birth to 14 pages of crap like we seen today

[Dementeleus]

21 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said:

Why are some people choosing to ignore that studios get around half of the movie's bo earnings ? So when BvS reaches around 900 million $ , WB will get half of that . How it will be hugely profitable, from its theatrical release, is a mystery to me . The fact that you have to resort to home video sales, tv rights and ..,toys to justify this movie as a financial success speaks volumes .

 

This is the case for almost every movie out there. There's no "resorting" to anything -- studios make movies in order to generate revenue from a number of sources. Theatrical is the most visible, but studios value every single revenue stream out there, and in fact that's how they choose which movies to greenlight and which ones not to.

 

Should they ignore money from certain foreign territories and not others? Should we consider a movie a failure because it didn't do well in one market (even if it did very well in all markets).

 

I appreciate everyone has feelings about this movie, but can we at least base arguments on reality and not some sort of weird, trumped-up fan emotion?

[grim22]

10 minutes ago, fmpro said:

If the drop tomorrow are over 10% i wont even bother reading the daily thread if a 15 mill+ number gives birth to 14 pages of crap like we seen today

 

It doesn't matter what the drop is, we will get pages upon pages of nonsense anyway.

[The Stingray]

Solid, expected drop.

 

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

Honestly, these threads haven't been as bad as I thought they would be. As for the actual numbers, this is all very solid for BvS. Not pants-shittingly amazing, but very, very good.

[The Futurist]

Futurist s hot take :

 

Sad Affleck's Video has 19m views.

 

You know that feeling when you drive by a car accident but you can't help but look ?

 

People just want to know why Batfleck is so sad.

 

Morbid curiosity.

 

It s human nature.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Water Bottle]

Grim's link (a couple of pages back) with Deadline's very rough approximations on profitability should end that particular discussion once and for all. The movie's gonna clear a couple hundred million in profit (after all expenses are accounted for). DHD's numbers may not be exact (they don't have access to any line item budget or anything), and obviously they're projecting many numbers, but their estimates should be way better than any of ours, especially when it comes to all the ancillary costs and revenues that we basically just wildly guess at.

 

This is gonna be a major success for WB and DC, financially. Maybe not the absolute pinnacle of success that they might've gotten with universal acclaim, but an expensive blockbuster turning a couple hundred million in profit is nothing to sneer at either. (Seriously, look at DHD's profitability breakdowns over the last couple of years to see how few movies reach that mark).

This movie is going to make a profit? WB must be hella pissed they can't get away with not paying royalties under the excuse that the movie didn't make a profit.

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[fmpro]

Do you have a more precise number Nilephelan?

[The Futurist]

Do murdering Psychopaths sell toys ?

 

[Heat Vision]

OS numbers?

[Lordmandeep]

Mods have picked a rather pointless movie to make a stand on lol.

[fmpro]

Official number is 15,040496

[grim22]

1	1	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	WB	$15,040,496	-56%	-	4,242	$3,546	$181,047,843	4
2	2	Zootopia	BV	$4,742,945	-20%	+27%	3,670	$1,292	$246,174,642	25
3	3	My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2	Uni.	$2,022,675	-51%	-	3,133	$646	$19,884,625	4
4	4	Miracles from Heaven	TriS	$1,387,780	-51%	+3%	3,047	$455	$35,692,374	13
5	5	The Divergent Series: Allegiant	LG/S	$1,229,620	-42%	-39%	3,740	$329	$47,770,289	11
6	6	10 Cloverfield Lane	Par.	$784,209	-48%	-36%	2,802	$280	$56,735,160	18
7	7	Deadpool	Fox	$627,463	-49%	-28%	2,336	$269	$349,999,370	46
8	8	London Has Fallen	Focus	$395,808	-54%	-41%	2,173	$182	$56,112,233	25
9	9	Hello, My Name is Doris	RAtt.	$232,000	-50%	+118%	485	$478	$3,468,570	18
10	-	Star Wars: The Force Awakens	BV	$142,911	-30%	+15%	552	$259	$933,816,923	102
11	-	Kung Fu Panda 3	Fox	$127,541	+1%	+19%	480	$266	$139,544,366	60
12	11	Eye in the Sky	BST	$116,572	-52%	+213%	123	$948	$1,771,129	18
-	12	Whiskey Tango Foxtrot	Par.	$111,549	-52%	-60%	847	$132	$21,437,718	25
-	-	The Perfect Match	LGF	$94,148	-50%	-48%	658	$143	$8,818,423	18
-	10	Risen	Sony	$81,556	-73%	-43%	634	$129	$36,110,728	39
-	-	The Revenant	Fox	$68,048	-45%	-48%	506	$134	$182,136,794	95
-	-	Kapoor & Sons - Since 1921	FIP	$43,517	-76%	-41%	153	$284	$1,977,151	11
-	-	Gods of Egypt	LG/S	$43,066	-49%	-64%	473	$91	$30,262,465	32
-	-	The Young Messiah	Focus	$36,921	-56%	-73%	874	$42	$6,294,142	18
-	-	Eddie the Eagle	Fox	$34,602	-23%	-53%	262	$132	$15,236,714	32
-	-	How to Be Single	WB	$25,552	-49%	-43%	188	$136	$46,411,687	46
-	-	Daddy's Home	Par.	$24,919	-42%	-35%	208	$120	$150,123,174	95
-	-	Spotlight	ORF	$22,393	-45%	-54%	206	$109	$44,361,318	144
-	-	Race (2016)	Focus	$20,739	-30%	-53%	180	$115	$18,837,354	39
-	-	The Brothers Grimsby	Sony	$20,218	-40%	-89%	198	$102	$6,746,546	18
-	-	Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Road Chip	Fox	$18,219	+34%	+25%	147	$124	$85,599,333	102
-	-	Triple 9	ORF	$18,070	-23%	-10%	86	$210	$12,485,998	32
-	-	The Little Prince	EOne	$16,014	+58%	+97%	66	$243	$1,127,121	46
-	-	Ride Along 2	Uni.	$15,325	-50%	-31%	156	$98	$90,713,225	74
-	-	Midnight Special	WB	$12,872	-59%	-36%	5	$2,574	$374,069	11

[Dementeleus]

3 minutes ago, Water Bottle said:

This movie is going to make a profit? WB must be hella pissed they can't get away with not paying royalties under the excuse that the movie didn't make a profit.

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It won't make a "profit", it'll just make a profit.

[grim22]

1 minute ago, Lordmandeep said:

Mods have picked a rather pointless movie to make a stand on lol.

 

I'm interested, what stand are we making exactly?

[Harpospoke]

1 hour ago, Telemachos said:

Grim's link (a couple of pages back) with Deadline's very rough approximations on profitability should end that particular discussion once and for all. The movie's gonna clear a couple hundred million in profit (after all expenses are accounted for). DHD's numbers may not be exact (they don't have access to any line item budget or anything), and obviously they're projecting many numbers, but their estimates should be way better than any of ours, especially when it comes to all the ancillary costs and revenues that we basically just wildly guess at.

 

This is gonna be a major success for WB and DC, financially. Maybe not the absolute pinnacle of success that they might've gotten with universal acclaim, but an expensive blockbuster turning a couple hundred million in profit is nothing to sneer at either. (Seriously, look at DHD's profitability breakdowns over the last couple of years to see how few movies reach that mark).

 

So I guess we'll have to hear that 350-400 m is "disappointing" now, eh?

 

Kinda makes me think life is fair.    One group of fanboys pulls that trick on the movie favored by a different group of fanboys...then a year or so later get the same thing about their movie.    Everything evens out in the end.

 

It's never made sense to me that these studios are losing money unless the movies does insane numbers relative to budget....how would they stay in business?

 

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Interesting statement from this review video I just watched.   Umberto Gonzalez shoots down the idea that WB would replace Snyder.    He claims that WB is a "takeover target right now" and won't postpone JL or replace Snyder because it would have a negative effect on stock prices.    First I've heard about that sort of thing.

 

Starts about 35:10...careful if you are avoiding spoilers:   

 

[narniadis]

5 minutes ago, grim22 said:

1	1	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	WB	$15,040,496	-56%	-	4,242	$3,546	$181,047,843	4
2	2	Zootopia	BV	$4,742,945	-20%	+27%	3,670	$1,292	$246,174,642	25
3	3	My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2	Uni.	$2,022,675	-51%	-	3,133	$646	$19,884,625	4
4	4	Miracles from Heaven	TriS	$1,387,780	-51%	+3%	3,047	$455	$35,692,374	13
5	5	The Divergent Series: Allegiant	LG/S	$1,229,620	-42%	-39%	3,740	$329	$47,770,289	11
6	6	10 Cloverfield Lane	Par.	$784,209	-48%	-36%	2,802	$280	$56,735,160	18
7	7	Deadpool	Fox	$627,463	-49%	-28%	2,336	$269	$349,999,370	46
8	8	London Has Fallen	Focus	$395,808	-54%	-41%	2,173	$182	$56,112,233	25
9	9	Hello, My Name is Doris	RAtt.	$232,000	-50%	+118%	485	$478	$3,468,570	18
10	-	Star Wars: The Force Awakens	BV	$142,911	-30%	+15%	552	$259	$933,816,923	102
11	-	Kung Fu Panda 3	Fox	$127,541	+1%	+19%	480	$266	$139,544,366	60
12	11	Eye in the Sky	BST	$116,572	-52%	+213%	123	$948	$1,771,129	18
-	12	Whiskey Tango Foxtrot	Par.	$111,549	-52%	-60%	847	$132	$21,437,718	25
-	-	The Perfect Match	LGF	$94,148	-50%	-48%	658	$143	$8,818,423	18
-	10	Risen	Sony	$81,556	-73%	-43%	634	$129	$36,110,728	39
-	-	The Revenant	Fox	$68,048	-45%	-48%	506	$134	$182,136,794	95
-	-	Kapoor & Sons - Since 1921	FIP	$43,517	-76%	-41%	153	$284	$1,977,151	11
-	-	Gods of Egypt	LG/S	$43,066	-49%	-64%	473	$91	$30,262,465	32
-	-	The Young Messiah	Focus	$36,921	-56%	-73%	874	$42	$6,294,142	18
-	-	Eddie the Eagle	Fox	$34,602	-23%	-53%	262	$132	$15,236,714	32
-	-	How to Be Single	WB	$25,552	-49%	-43%	188	$136	$46,411,687	46
-	-	Daddy's Home	Par.	$24,919	-42%	-35%	208	$120	$150,123,174	95
-	-	Spotlight	ORF	$22,393	-45%	-54%	206	$109	$44,361,318	144
-	-	Race (2016)	Focus	$20,739	-30%	-53%	180	$115	$18,837,354	39
-	-	The Brothers Grimsby	Sony	$20,218	-40%	-89%	198	$102	$6,746,546	18
-	-	Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Road Chip	Fox	$18,219	+34%	+25%	147	$124	$85,599,333	102
-	-	Triple 9	ORF	$18,070	-23%	-10%	86	$210	$12,485,998	32
-	-	The Little Prince	EOne	$16,014	+58%	+97%	66	$243	$1,127,121	46
-	-	Ride Along 2	Uni.	$15,325	-50%	-31%	156	$98	$90,713,225	74
-	-	Midnight Special	WB	$12,872	-59%	-36%	5	$2,574	$374,069	11

 

Its sad how much lack of depth the Box office has once you get past the top 2 films... slightly normal drops and we would have had only 2 (if that) films over 1m.... and would have been hard pressed for a top 10 over 100k.... only going to get worse as April progresses.

[Water Bottle]

Just now, aliadiere29 said:

All I know is, this movie is going to make a very nice profit for WB.

 

Question is: is it enough?

 

This and Fantastic Beasts was supposed to be the holy grail saving WB from two consecutively poor years under Tsujiwara.

WB posted $12 billion in revenue in 2015. After operating costs, WB was left with more than $1 billion in profit. This and Suicide Squad and even Fantastic Beasts could have flopped and WB would be fine.

[Lordmandeep]

4 minutes ago, grim22 said:

 

I'm interested, what stand are we making exactly?

I am saying you guys are doing a good job at trying to keep it somewhat civilized on here.

It seems the movie is drawing a unique severity of negativity on this forum.

All I am saying that there is justification for users to be negative on this forum towards this movie and imo it is all not trolling or pointless nonsense.

 

 

[SWXII]

1 hour ago, Lordmandeep said:

By God! Zack Synder made batman (more) famous !!!

 

Fixed that for you.

 

With some help from Ben Affleck of course.