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ROGUE ONE WEEKEND THREAD | Actuals R1 155.09m, Moana 12.7m, OCP 8.58m, CB 7.1m, FB 5.07m

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I have to say I find it hilarious that the Avatar fans are the on a that criticize another movie the most for having an unoriginal plot when that movie's plot is the same of a ton of movies that have come before it and every character in the film is a cliche.  

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5 minutes ago, CJohn said:

You didn't like R1?

I am proud. I am not of a fan of that steelbook either :lol:

You don't remember when I said it sucked the other night? You were literally calling doom and gloom when I said it :lol: It's grown on me, but the first two acts suck.

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4 minutes ago, Grand Moff Tele said:

 

Yes, just the way Luke was. These arguments were hashed out here 11 months ago.

Woah there! Luke trained with that floating ball on the Falcon for about five seconds. Rey didn't, so clearly she's a Mary Sue

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9 minutes ago, Grand Moff Tele said:

 

Yes, just the way Luke was. These arguments were hashed out here 11 months ago.

 

They both had their piloting accomplishments. In addition to Rey's piloting, she was a linguist *droid and wookiespeak*, a duelist *never handled a lightsaber*, a telekinetic practitioner *never done it* etc... 

 

In canon, if Rey were to have done what she had without training, she has far surpassed Luke. Heir to the Jedi portrays Luke struggling with abilities Rey picked up in moments. 

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21 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

You don't remember when I said it sucked the other night? You were literally calling doom and gloom when I said it :lol: It's grown on me, but the first two acts suck.

I thought you were trolling :ph34r:

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26 minutes ago, Highever said:

 

They both had their piloting accomplishments. In addition to Rey's piloting, she was a linguist *droid and wookiespeak*, a duelist *never handled a lightsaber*, a telekinetic practitioner *never done it* etc... 

 

In canon, if Rey were to have done what she had without training, she has far surpassed Luke. Heir to the Jedi portrays Luke struggling with abilities Rey picked up in moments. 

 

I can't believe you want to rehash this, but:

 

A- she wasn't "a linguist", she had picked up the same basic couple of random languages that other SW characters have done through the course of their lives, including Luke (who seems to have lived a more sheltered life than Rey). Is Luke a linguist? He understands at least some basic droid languages in A NEW HOPE. 

B- she wasn't a particularly good duellist, but she managed to hold off an angry and and overconfident and wounded Dark Side-ish apprentice (who had limited formal training of his own) for a few moments and managed to strike a blow. Kylo Ren might have some Dark Side ability, but Rey clearly is Force-sensitive and also had some basic latent ability to explore it. Again, this is the same sort of case with Luke, not to mention Anakin, who (at the age of eight! or however old he was) had far, far more natural abilities.

C- see B. Luke's "training" at the beginning of TESB consists of five minutes with a training droid while Obi-Wan watched and a whispered "The Force is with You" during the Trench Run. It's about the same as what Rey had when she managed to unexpectedly do the same thing.

 

I've been a Star Wars fan for 35 years, roughly speaking. Not once did any of these concerns cross my mind until I wandered onto message boards and discovered a bunch of people suddenly bitching that a young woman -- who clearly is destined to be some sort of future Jedi or powerful Force-enabled person -- showed the few flashes of basic ability that had already been demonstrated by other major characters in previous Star Wars movies.

 

I also hesitate to use an appeal to authority, but in this particular case the movie was shepherded through production and co-written by someone who arguably has had as much creative power in the Star Wars universe as anyone not named George Lucas. If anyone (aside from Lucas) has the creative understanding and "right" chops to add a new character with the potential to become some great Force in the galaxy, it's Kasdan.

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