The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Rorschach]

Frozen 2 Thursday November 21st showings @ Rave Cinemas Davenport 53rd + IMAX (current standings)

 

3D

6:30 - 25/78

9:20 - 0/78

 

2D

7:00 - 79/238

7:30 - 8/135

8:00 - 6/141

9:50 - 0/238

10:20 - 0/135

10: 50 - 0/141

 

IMAX (2D)

6:00 - 15/387

8:50 - 1/387

 

Total: 134/1,958 (6.84% of all seats sold)

Edited November 7, 2019 by Rorschach

[keysersoze123]

3 hours ago, Menor said:

For Black Friday at Cinemark F2 is at 8018/409851 which is quite strong, in just 218 theaters too.

 

For Thanksgiving it's at 8985/524946 again really strong in 259 theaters. But combined these two plus other days are probably only adding  maybe 20% to the total, so I don't think it fully explains the Fandango report.

I got it slightly different when I ran it earlier this afternoon.

 

Cin Thanksgiving - 9032/560902  3128 shows
Cin Black Friday -  8032/436521 2398 shows

 

Do you count only theaters or actual shows as well

[Legion Again]

4 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

I got it slightly different when I ran it earlier this afternoon.

 

Cin Thanksgiving - 9032/560902 3128 shows
Cin Black Friday - 8032/436521 2398 shows

 

Do you count only theaters or actual shows as well

A difference of just 47 for thanksgiving and 14 for Black Friday seems likely caused by just running at different times and sales happening in between? Unless you mean the discrepancy in the denominators specifically.

[frozenheart1993]

3 hours ago, Menor said:

For Black Friday at Cinemark F2 is at 8018/409851 which is quite strong, in just 218 theaters too.

 

For Thanksgiving it's at 8985/524946 again really strong in 259 theaters. But combined these two plus other days are probably only adding  maybe 20% to the total, so I don't think it fully explains the Fandango report.

So do you think that Fandango’s report is incorrect?

[Cap]

For Cinemagic Frozen II

 

first day: 12

third day: 32

 

as a comp, TLK was a 37 so comps out to 19.89M. 
 

Daylight savings time is effing with me so I am off to bed. I’ll have complete numbers tomorrow for everything

[keysersoze123]

18 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

A difference of just 47 for thanksgiving and 14 for Black Friday seems likely caused by just running at different times and sales happening in between? Unless you mean the discrepancy in the denominators specifically.

No. I was talking about theaters/shows. Numbers are inline.

[keysersoze123]

2 minutes ago, captainwondyful said:

For Cinemagic Frozen II

 

first day: 12

third day: 32

 

as a comp, TLK was a 37 so comps out to 19.89M. 
 

Daylight savings time is effing with me so I am off to bed. I’ll have complete numbers tomorrow for everything

We need it with all the pretty tables. surprised to see you not do it for the movie that you are most hyped for. But take rest. i can understand how DST change will affect. I am sleeping earlier but still waking up at the same time 🙂

[keysersoze123]

On 11/5/2019 at 9:01 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Frozen 2 (T-16)

Cin Prev - 21980/382140 2384 shows (+4466)
Cin OD - 32294/735671  4342 shows  (+7106)
Cin D2 - 38954/733103 $370860 4355 shows (+8526)
Cin D3 - 20033/730619 $185432 4312 shows (+4332)

Overall +24436

 

Awesome day indeed. It slowed down but selling almost 25k tickets for OW is great. Unfortunately AMC is still putting requests through a queue and so I would like to wait until I get those before making any prediction.

 

Frozen 2 (T-15)

Cin previews - 25034/381687 $307960 2381 shows (+3054)
Cin D1 -  37383/735671 $399435 4342 shows (+5089)
Cin D2 - 45321/733483 $432392 4355 shows (+6367)
Cin D3 - 23143/730556 $213233 4311 shows (+3110)

Overall - +17621

 

WOW. That is crazy good. PS for OD and D2 are on steroids. Based on these numbers breakout is confirmed. its numbers on Thanksgiving/BF confirms it will have a good 2nd weekend. Thanksgiving is 45% of Opening Sunday and Black Friday is almost matching that despite fewer shows.

 

I wish AMC also would start to work and we get complete picture. But Floor would be like 125m. But it could be lot higher once AMC is on board.

 

 

[Inceptionzq]

43 minutes ago, frozenheart1993 said:

So do you think that Fandango’s report is incorrect?

He’s not saying the report is incorrect. He’s showing that even though Frozen has an advantage with presales because of Thanksgiving in America, he doesn’t think that’s the explanation of why it’s breaking records. It’s just doing very well overall.

 

And just btw, Fandango is the biggest movie ticket service in America. Their reports are from their data.

[frozenheart1993]

5 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

He’s not saying the report is incorrect. He’s showing that even though Frozen has an advantage with presales because of Thanksgiving in America, he doesn’t think that’s the explanation of why it’s breaking records. It’s just doing very well overall.

 

And just btw, Fandango is the biggest movie ticket service in America. Their reports are from their data.

thanks

[FlashMaster659]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Inland Empire Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-43 Days

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Seats Left	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	256	12218	53600	41382	22.79%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 83

[Eric Furiosa]

Doctor Sleep Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	35	185	6,972	2.65%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 1

Total Seats Added Today: 91

Total Seats Sold Today: 41

 

Comp

1.193x of Crawl 1 day before release (1.19M)

0.135x of Once Upon (784K)

0.658x of Scary Stories (1.53M)

1.542x of Ready or Not (1.12M)

0.077x of It: Chapter Two (813K)

0.725x of Ad Astra (1.09M)

0.450x of Terminator (1.06M)

 

It sold less than Tuesday....well, at least the holdovers have another good week to get more money

[Eric Furiosa]

Last Christmas Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	20	68	2,907	2.34%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 17

 

Comp

0.613x of Stuber 1 day before release (459K)

1.658x of Racing in Rain (746K)

2.345x of Bernadette (469K)

0.144x of Hustlers (359K)

0.135x of Downton Abbey (283K)

 

Another movie that sold less today compared to Tuesday. What the heck happened today?

[Legion Again]

Last Christmas reviews released this morning and are pretty bad. Midway same. Wouldn't explain Doctor Sleep though.

[Eric Furiosa]

Midway Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	27	80	4,552	1.76%

 

 

Total Shows Added Today: 1

Total Seats Added Today: 49

Total Seats Sold Today: 26

 

Comp

0.398x of Angel Has Fallen 1 day before release (597K)

0.386x of Rambo (502K)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.079x of Hobbs & Shaw (457K)

 

Finally a movie that actually did decent today. Doesn't mean over Doctor Sleep or whatever, but at least there's some growth happening.

[Porthos]

The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-43 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	204	12516	24000	11484	47.85%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

103

 

T-43 Adjusted Comp (EXTREMELY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-43	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
CM	430.65		17	2548		0/81	8066/10614	24.01%		89.14m
TROS (adj)	n/a		101	10973		2/204	11765/22738	48.26%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel.

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Estimated TROS Gross So Far:

	%		Final Sold		TROS Sold		Comp
IW	64.64		15159		9713		25.22m
DP2	120.51		8133		9713		22.41m
Solo	169.30		5789		9713		23.87m
JW:FK	157.37		6228		9713		24.08m
AM&tW	212.83		4605		9713		24.48m
Venom	226.49		4493		10081		22.65m
CM	103.98		10553		10973		21.52m
EG	41.17		26655		10973		24.70m
TLK	99.96		10977		10973		22.99m
It 2	202.93		5659		11484		21.31m
AVG							23.32m

NOTE: FINAL SOLD is the amount of tickets sold at stop of tracking for the given movie and TROS SOLD is the amount of tickets sold so far at the same theaters I had tracking info for the movie in question.

[Porthos]

Frozen 2 Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-15 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	116	15256	16484	1228	7.45%

 

Total Showings Added Today	2
Total Seats Added Today	150
Total Seats Sold Today	136

 

Day Three Adjusted Comps

	%		Sold Day Three	Total Sold		Sellouts / Shows	Seats Left / Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
Aladdin	275.12		30	434		0/68	8969/9403	4.62%		19.26m
TS4	117.64		118	1015		0/89	11186/12201	8.32%		14.12m
TLK	75.86		163	1574		0/158	16415/17989	8.75%		17.45m
Frozen 2 (adj)	n/a		123	1194		0/116	12962/14156	8.43%		n/a

PRE-SALES NOTE: Aladdin and The Lion King both had 25 days of pre-sales and Toy Story 4 had 24 days of pre-sales.  In comparison Frozen 2 had 18 days of pre-sales. 

ADJUSTMENT NOTE:  Frozen 2 (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for all of the movies in that stat block.

[Eric Furiosa]

Playing with Fire Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	35	58	4,752	1.22%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 25

 

Comp

0.464x of Dora 1 day before release (580K)

0.753x of Abominable (490K)

0.267x of Addams Family (334K)

0.187x of Maleficent (430K)

[Porthos]

As I warned y'all, there was a spike in Sacramento today, thanks to those prime showings that were added at two of the A-tier theaters in town. Those showings accounted for 72 of the tickets sold. Which means, ironically enough, there might have only been 30 other sales region wide.  Presuming all of those folks wouldn't have bought tickets today, which isn't a total certainty.  But it probably would have been in the low 40s otherwise, which might be expected given what's going in other markets.

 

I do reckon the vast majority of them were the piranhas waiting on the sideline, just ready to pounce. 

 

As for Frozen 2, it keeps doing its thing.  Kicked the ass of Aladdin's Day Three, and pretty much kept exact pace with the Day Threes of TS4 and TLK.  

 

Speaking of which, with only slight misgivings, gonna transition Frozen 2 to T-x days starting tomorrow night.  That'll mean the comps will take a hit, but Aladdin is already tapering off its initial rush, and I really can't wait around for the ramp up of TS4/TLK to finish.  So gonna bite the bullet and just start up the comps for real tomorrow.  Pretty sure we've gotten a good idea of its launch, anyway.  Especially since it seems like it's gonna be a Weekend Warrior, so the Thur number doesn't looks to be as important as it might.

Edited November 7, 2019 by Porthos

[keysersoze123]

Quick Update on SW Previews.

 

AMC prev - 267136/843148 3996668.19 (5040 shows)
Cin  prev -   168028/439823 $2169868 (2971 shows)

 

Both AMC and Cinemark are chugging along selling around 1200-1300 tickets per day. Show counts are just trickling up at this point. I guess this will be the case until final burst around 10 days to release.