The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Porthos]

39 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

I think this is happening to some degree. TROS+F2 might be pretty close in size to the CM+Endgame money sink from the first half of the year.

Also had Joker take a 300m (and counting) chomp out of the box office.  All adds up here and there.

[Rorschach]

52 minutes ago, Rorschach said:

Doctor Sleep Thursday Night Previews ~ 1 hour until first showing: Rave Cinemas Davenport 53rd + IMAX

 

2D

6:00 - 22/238

9:35 - 2/238

 

IMAX

7:00 - 0/387

10:30 - 0/387

 

Total: 24/1,250 (1.92% of all seats sold)

I don't usually keep track of comparisons or anything like that but just from a glance, those Doctor Sleep numbers do not seem very good.

Update: 

 

2D

6:00 (final) - 36/238

9:35 - 4/238

 

IMAX

7:00 - 6/387

10:30 - 0/387

 

Total: 46/1,250 (3.68% of all seats sold)

[TalismanRing]

NYC Local -

Dr Sleep was picking up the pace and by 6pm was about 70% of Zombies 2 (which I checked at 6:30pm for a 7pm start)

Last X-Mas picked up by showtime - first 7:15pm show was at 38 tickets sold at start o show

Midway -32 tickets sold for 7pm at start

 

 

Midway	20/512	(4pm)	23/512	(4pm)	22/512	(4:30pm)	27/512	(5pm)		7:00 PM
Dr Sleep	23/510	(4pm)	28/510	(4pm)	28/510	(4:30pm)	53/512	(5pm)		6:00 PM
Last Christmas	12/496	(4pm)	12/496	(4pm)	12/496	(4:30pm)	16/496	(5pm)		7:00 PM
Playing With Fire	15/654	(4pm)	15/654	(4pm)	15/654	(4:30pm)	18/654	(4pm)		4:00 PM

Edited November 8, 2019 by TalismanRing

[Eric the Fall Guy]

Doctor Sleep Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	35	394	6,972	5.65%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 209

 

Comp

0.918x of Crawl (918K)

0.207x of Once Upon (1.20M)

0.605x of Scary Stories (1.41M)

0.949x of Ready or Not (693K)

0.114x of It: Chapter Two (1.19M)

0.831x of Ad Astra (1.25M)

0.452x of Terminator (1.06M)

 

Good news bad news time.  Good news is there were solid increases across almost all movies Bad news is the preview number still leans more to sub-1.5M, which would be not good, even if you consider the Fandango Early Access shows. (Get used to that feeling, because that's gonna be the theme for tonight)

[Eric the Fall Guy]

Last Christmas Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	20	173	2,907	5.95%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 105

 

Comp

0.689x of Stuber (517K)

2.012x of Racing in Rain (905K)

3.604x of Bernadette (721K)

0.159x of Hustlers (399K)

0.282x of Downton Abbey (592K)

 

See what I mean by the "good news bad news" thing?

[Eric the Fall Guy]

Midway Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	27	223	4,552	4.90%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 143

 

Comp

0.462x of Angel Has Fallen (692K)

0.526x of Rambo (684K)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.102x of Hobbs & Shaw (590K)

 

Good news bad news again. It be like that

[Inceptionzq]

On 11/6/2019 at 3:42 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Doctor Sleep Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

83

780

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

73

539

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
283	76	5421	5.22%	9	32

 

Showings added: 2

Seats added: 434

 

Zombieland 2 comp: 1.76M

Gemini Man comp: 2.46M

Terminator comp: 2M

Adjusted IT 2 comp: 1.14M

Doctor Sleep Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

150

780

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

134

539

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
642	359	5421	11.84%	9	32

 

Zombieland 2 comp: 1.33M

Gemini Man comp: 1.91M

Terminator comp: 1.61M

IT 2 comp: 1.74M

 

I don't think Zombieland is a good comp. It seemed to have really bad walkups after previews started, or just severely overperformed here. But it crashed down to earth compared to Gemini Man and Terminator. I see this coming in on the lower end of the 1.61-1.91M range. Don't think the late walkups will be worse than Terminator because of Halloween. So, I'll go with 1.65M for today. And overall previews of 2.5M.

[Eric the Fall Guy]

Playing with Fire Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	35	113	4,752	2.38%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 55

 

Comp

0.557x of Dora (696K)

0.502x of Abominable (326K)

0.342x of Addams Family (428K)

0.162x of Maleficent (373K)

 

This is the opposite of the other movies. This is just bad news lmao

[TalismanRing]

Any one have Better Day's theater count?   The Numbers doesn't have it listed (except as limited in the calendar) but @AndyLL has it for The Derby.

 

Found the website listing theaters - it's just 64 

 

https://www.wellgousa.com/films/better-days

 

 

Edited November 8, 2019 by TalismanRing

[Old Spice]

I was just about to ask a question about theater counts. I thought I recalled that after the BOM redesign fiasco someone said that The Numbers was now showing that. But I don't see that info anywhere (other than the daily box office chart.) Is there a link like BOM used to have that shows counts for the upcoming weekend?

[DAJK]

Shoot, Doctor Sleep started at 6 and I thought it was at 7. Won't have a comp for that unfortunately which bumms me out. Only going to have Last Christmas this week unfortunately

[TalismanRing]

17 minutes ago, A Star is Orm said:

I was just about to ask a question about theater counts. I thought I recalled that after the BOM redesign fiasco someone said that The Numbers was now showing that. But I don't see that info anywhere (other than the daily box office chart.) Is there a link like BOM used to have that shows counts for the upcoming weekend?

Linked on their front page

 

https://www.the-numbers.com/news/242660830-Weekend-Theater-Counts-Terminator-Dark-Fate-Remains-the-Widest-Release

 

Theater Counts for Weekend of November 8-November 10

Movie	Distributor	Theaters	Previous Theaters	Change
Terminator: Dark Fate	Paramount Pictures	4,086	4,086
Doctor Sleep	Warner Bros	3,855		new
Last Christmas	Universal	3,448		new
Midway	Lionsgate	3,242		new
Maleficient: Mistress of Evil	Walt Disney	3,201	3,820	-619
Playing With Fire	Paramount Pictures	3,125		new
Joker	Warner Bros	2,806	3,519	-713
The Addams Family	United Artists	2,674	3,607	-933
Zombieland: Double Tap	Sony Pictures	2,427	3,337	-910
Arctic Dogs	Entertainment Studios Motion Pictures	2,320	2,844	-524
Harriet	Focus Features	2,186	2,059	+127
Countdown	STX Entertainment	1,829	2,675	-846
Motherless Brooklyn	Warner Bros	1,342	1,342
Black and Blue	Sony Pictures	1,129	2,062	-933
Jojo Rabbit	Walt Disney	798	256	+542
The Lighthouse	A24	683	978	-295
Parasite	Neon	603	461	+142
Gemini Man	Paramount Pictures	480	1,872	-1,392
Downton Abbey	Focus Features	470	912	-442
Abominable	Universal	404	1,137	-733
The Current War: Director’s Cut	101 Studios	403	1,082	-679
Ad Astra	Walt Disney	248	137	+111
Judy	Roadside Attractions	246	604	-358
Western Stars	Warner Bros	211	553	-342
Hustlers	STX Entertainment	179	408	-229
The Lion King	Walt Disney	135	158	-23
It: Chapter Two	Warner Bros	126	376	-250
Toy Story 4	Walt Disney	89	105	-16
Housefull 4	Walt Disney	85	315	-230
The Peanut Butter Falcon	Roadside Attractions	82	122	-40
Rambo: Last Blood	Lionsgate	58	205	-147
Cyrano, My Love	Roadside Attractions	18	6	+12
47 Meters Down: Uncaged	Entertainment Studios Motion Pictures	7	12	-5
Ballet Blanc	Indican Pictures	2		new

[Old Spice]

15 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Linked on their front page

 

https://www.the-numbers.com/news/242660830-Weekend-Theater-Counts-Terminator-Dark-Fate-Remains-the-Widest-Release

 

Theater Counts for Weekend of November 8-November 10

Movie	Distributor	Theaters	Previous Theaters	Change
Terminator: Dark Fate	Paramount Pictures	4,086	4,086
Doctor Sleep	Warner Bros	3,855		new
Last Christmas	Universal	3,448		new
Midway	Lionsgate	3,242		new
Maleficient: Mistress of Evil	Walt Disney	3,201	3,820	-619
Playing With Fire	Paramount Pictures	3,125		new
Joker	Warner Bros	2,806	3,519	-713
The Addams Family	United Artists	2,674	3,607	-933
Zombieland: Double Tap	Sony Pictures	2,427	3,337	-910
Arctic Dogs	Entertainment Studios Motion Pictures	2,320	2,844	-524
Harriet	Focus Features	2,186	2,059	+127
Countdown	STX Entertainment	1,829	2,675	-846
Motherless Brooklyn	Warner Bros	1,342	1,342
Black and Blue	Sony Pictures	1,129	2,062	-933
Jojo Rabbit	Walt Disney	798	256	+542
The Lighthouse	A24	683	978	-295
Parasite	Neon	603	461	+142
Gemini Man	Paramount Pictures	480	1,872	-1,392
Downton Abbey	Focus Features	470	912	-442
Abominable	Universal	404	1,137	-733
The Current War: Director’s Cut	101 Studios	403	1,082	-679
Ad Astra	Walt Disney	248	137	+111
Judy	Roadside Attractions	246	604	-358
Western Stars	Warner Bros	211	553	-342
Hustlers	STX Entertainment	179	408	-229
The Lion King	Walt Disney	135	158	-23
It: Chapter Two	Warner Bros	126	376	-250
Toy Story 4	Walt Disney	89	105	-16
Housefull 4	Walt Disney	85	315	-230
The Peanut Butter Falcon	Roadside Attractions	82	122	-40
Rambo: Last Blood	Lionsgate	58	205	-147
Cyrano, My Love	Roadside Attractions	18	6	+12
47 Meters Down: Uncaged	Entertainment Studios Motion Pictures	7	12	-5
Ballet Blanc	Indican Pictures	2		new

Great, thank you! 👍

 

[filmlover]

3 hours ago, Biggestgeekever said:

Doctor Sleep is similarly looking pretty dead here in Seattle, and I would thought this would be a place for it would do well. Starting to think it'll struggle to hit $20M for the weekend.

Yeah, it's been selling really poorly around here too (and not looking much better tomorrow either). Kinda nutty to think this might open a few million lower than Pet Sematary did earlier this year.

[keysersoze123]

4 hours ago, JB33 said:

Yeesh. I thought Last Christmas would play way better than that.

At least walk ins are really good. I have a feeling it will do better than what PS is saying bcos its not PS driven at all.

 

Update

Last Christmas Previews

AMC Prev - 498 shows 10238/63635 131428.67
Cin Prev - 8417/72163 $92193 (582 shows)

 

Still not enough to hit 1m previews but it portends well for the weekend. I wonder if it can hit high teens or more this weekend.

[Menor the Destroyer]

@keysersoze123 I am looking at doing the rest of Fandango theaters (non Cinemark and AMC). But the runtime is still very slow (7 seconds per show) so it would take like 15+ hours to run just for F2. Perhaps tracking only Regal would be more practical (although still quite slow). 

Edited November 8, 2019 by Menor

[keysersoze123]

8 minutes ago, Menor said:

@keysersoze123 I am looking at doing the rest of Fandango theaters (non Cinemark and AMC). But the runtime is still very slow (7 seconds per show) so it would take like 15+ hours to run just for F2. Perhaps tracking only Regal would be more practical (although still quite slow). 

Yes. 7 hours is too much. One way is pick a sample of theaters say 200 across different cities to get a diverse sample. I like drafthouse theaters as they are dominant outside NYC/LA/SF and generally do very well. May be few Drafthouse, regal and if possible few showcase/marcus but not all of them. Anything more than an hour is not practical.

 

Can you run multiple in parallel? Is it possible to spawn multiple Selenium instances. How about this. https://simpleprogrammer.com/parallel-testing-selenium-webdriver-automation-steroids/

 

I wonder what @Porthos or other regulars feel? We can ignore Sacremento for sure as he is there to cover it 🙂

[keysersoze123]

Playing With Fire Previews.

AMC - 8705/91554 105529.02 (overall 762 shows)
CIN - 7620/93952 $81730 (773 shows)

 

AMC Increase not as good as Last Christmas but Cinemark did even better than Last Christmas did !!! Still numbers are too low. Unlike Last Christmas I am not expecting this to have a good OW. Most Probably sub 10m OW.

 

[Porthos]

1 minute ago, keysersoze123 said:

Yes. 7 hours is too much. One way is pick a sample of theaters say 200 across different cities to get a diverse sample. I like drafthouse theaters as they are dominant outside NYC/LA/SF and generally do very well. May be few Drafthouse, regal and if possible few showcase/marcus but not all of them. Anything more than an hour is not practical.

 

Can you run multiple in parallel? Is it possible to spawn multiple Selenium instances. How about this. https://simpleprogrammer.com/parallel-testing-selenium-webdriver-automation-steroids/

 

I wonder what @Porthos or other regulars feel? We can ignore Sacremento for sure as he is there to cover it 🙂

Remember, I only cover Thr previews I feel are going to hit more than 7m, so there's plenty of films that I don't as well as days I wouldn't be looking at.

 

Also kinda thinking of maybe we might split this up between posters (not exactly volunteering, BTW).  Though I am more than a little worried that Fandango might view multiple people scraping as something akin to a DDoS, so I'm a little wary here.

[Menor the Destroyer]

5 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Yes. 7 hours is too much. One way is pick a sample of theaters say 200 across different cities to get a diverse sample. I like drafthouse theaters as they are dominant outside NYC/LA/SF and generally do very well. May be few Drafthouse, regal and if possible few showcase/marcus but not all of them. Anything more than an hour is not practical.

 

Can you run multiple in parallel? Is it possible to spawn multiple Selenium instances. How about this. https://simpleprogrammer.com/parallel-testing-selenium-webdriver-automation-steroids/

 

I wonder what @Porthos or other regulars feel? We can ignore Sacremento for sure as he is there to cover it 🙂

Hmm I will take a look at that. Although it is beyond my current programming skills but it might be an interesting project to learn. For now I will attempt to use Splash and if that fails then I will try to reduce to a representative sample.