5-day Weekend #s: DM3 99M, BD 29.97M, WW 24.07M, TF5 24.05M, Cars 3 14.2M, House 11.9M

[WrathOfHan]

@CJohn TOMATO LAW and POPCORN LAW are working their magic.

Edited July 3, 2017 by WrathOfHan

[YM!]

Illumination will rebound with Grinch and Pets 2 (however if they don't move it away from Homecoming 2, Han's wettest dream of sub $200M Domestic may happen). 

 

This is the summer of franchise fatigue. I honestly think if Cars 3, DM3, TF5, and Mummy had better reviews that might have done better. If audiences are bored with a franchise barring good reviews they'll keep on disappointing.

[YM!]

Bold prediction: Grinch over Minions 2 and Pets 2 domestically.

[titanic2187]

http://deadline.com/2017/07/the-house-rough-night-baywatch-comedy-films-bombing-at-the-box-office-1202123289/

 

the house sinks further to $8.7m

 

‘The House’ Gets Demolished With $8.7M Opening: The Unfunny Business About Comedies At The Box Office

This weekend Will Ferrell and Amy Poehler hit career box office lows as New Line/Village Roadshow/Warner Bros’ $40M-budgeted The House burned down to a $8.7M opening (figures as of Monday morning). For Ferrell, House reps his lowest live-action comedy opening from a major studio, while for Poehler, it’s certainly her lowest three-day for any major studio release that has featured her as the marquee draw.

[filmlover]

2 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

http://deadline.com/2017/07/the-house-rough-night-baywatch-comedy-films-bombing-at-the-box-office-1202123289/

 

the house sinks further to $8.7m

 

‘The House’ Gets Demolished With $8.7M Opening: The Unfunny Business About Comedies At The Box Office

This weekend Will Ferrell and Amy Poehler hit career box office lows as New Line/Village Roadshow/Warner Bros’ $40M-budgeted The House burned down to a $8.7M opening (figures as of Monday morning). For Ferrell, House reps his lowest live-action comedy opening from a major studio, while for Poehler, it’s certainly her lowest three-day for any major studio release that has featured her as the marquee draw.

Variety just posted an article about the dire state of R-rated comedies right now: http://variety.com/2017/film/news/the-house-rough-night-r-rated-comedies-box-office-1202486209/

[Jonwo]

5 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Illumination will rebound with Grinch and Pets 2 (however if they don't move it away from Homecoming 2, Han's wettest dream of sub $200M Domestic may happen). 

 

This is the summer of franchise fatigue. I honestly think if Cars 3, DM3, TF5, and Mummy had better reviews that might have done better. If audiences are bored with a franchise barring good reviews they'll keep on disappointing.

 

I think Grinch will be a huge hit domestically but I think it won't do as well OS just because Dr Seuss doesn't do as well OS.

[WrathOfHan]

Audience score updates:

 

BD: 91%

DM3: 68%

The Beguiled: 55%

The House: 47%

 

I swear to Christ, casuals better not fuck up my chances of seeing The Beguiled in theaters.

[The Panda]

Illumination should scrap Minions and just make the next DM for 2021, give the franchise some time to breathe.

 

But yeah, this really is a mini-Shrek 4 situation.  A strong first movie, a massive second, a massive third (but disappoints quality wise and with legs), and a fourth that disappoints.

 

I think Illumination should continue to diversify though, franchises are good, but very few franchises have true longevity (on the lengths of SW, MCU, Batman, etc).  Pixar and WDAS got into the stable positions they're in because they haven't relied on sequels (although they're starting to, and that could eventually spell trouble).

 

I think the GA in general is just getting Sequel-itis.  Even out of the comic book movies this year, Logan isolated itself from X-Men and told a unique story, GOTG2 was a sequel to a fresh concept (and not an age old franchise they've already had multiple installments of), and WW for all purposes felt and played like an original.

 

I am starting to think comic book fatigue won't be a problem, it's going to be franchise fatigue.  Marvel and DC will be fine with their expanded universes if they can still make each individual movie feel like its own thing, and not a sequel.  Star Wars should also be fine because it's Star Wars.  

 

But I think this "franchise everything" mindset is going to coming back to bite studios in the butt.  Even something that seemed like a 300m shoe-in, DM3, is disappointing.  

[Biggestgeekever]

Wow. DM3 may not even hit $210M. I thought that Minions being a spinoff would mean the worse audience reception than Shrek 3 would minimize the damage somewhat, but apparently not.

Edited July 3, 2017 by Biggestgeekever

[The Panda]

9 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Bold prediction: Grinch over Minions 2 and Pets 2 domestically.

 

The only thing bold about that is the font.

[WrathOfHan]

Just now, The Panda said:

Illumination should scrap Minions and just make the next DM for 2021, give the franchise some time to breathe.

 

But yeah, this really is a mini-Shrek 4 situation.  A strong first movie, a massive second, a massive third (but disappoints quality wise and with legs), and a fourth that disappoints.

 

I think Illumination should continue to diversify though, franchises are good, but very few franchises have true longevity (on the lengths of SW, MCU, Batman, etc).  Pixar and WDAS got into the stable positions they're in because they haven't relied on sequels (although they're starting to, and that could eventually spell trouble).

 

I think the GA in general is just getting Sequel-itis.  Even out of the comic book movies this year, Logan isolated itself from X-Men and told a unique story, GOTG2 was a sequel to a fresh concept (and not an age old franchise they've already had multiple installments of), and WW for all purposes felt and played like an original.

 

I am starting to think comic book fatigue won't be a problem, it's going to be franchise fatigue.  Marvel and DC will be fine with their expanded universes if they can still make each individual movie feel like its own thing, and not a sequel.  Star Wars should also be fine because it's Star Wars.  

 

But I think this "franchise everything" mindset is going to coming back to bite studios in the butt.  Even something that seemed like a 300m shoe-in, DM3, is disappointing.  

Yuuuuup. This is why Dark Phoenix is going to perform awfully. 

[CJohn]

11 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

@CJohn TOMATO LAW and POPCORN LAW are working their magic.

[The Panda]

I'm even more mad now I didn't make the DM3 < DM club a few weeks back.  I had to make that stupid WW 4th weekend club instead.

[cannastop]

Holy fuck at Despicable Me 3.

 

Spoiler

Hopefully I still win the derby.

 

[CJohn]

1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:

Yuuuuup. This is why Dark Phoenix is going to perform awfully. 

That one is easily going under 100M. The question is how much under will it go.

[cannastop]

Despicable Me 3's ow is below Zootopia's!

 

 

Must have less heart! @FantasticBeasts

[Jonwo]

Just now, The Panda said:

Illumination should scrap Minions and just make the next DM for 2021, give the franchise some time to breathe.

 

But yeah, this really is a mini-Shrek 4 situation.  A strong first movie, a massive second, a massive third (but disappoints quality wise and with legs), and a fourth that disappoints.

 

I think Illumination should continue to diversify though, franchises are good, but very few franchises have true longevity (on the lengths of SW, MCU, Batman, etc).  Pixar and WDAS got into the stable positions they're in because they haven't relied on sequels (although they're starting to, and that could eventually spell trouble).

 

I think the GA in general is just getting Sequel-itis.  Even out of the comic book movies this year, Logan isolated itself from X-Men and told a unique story, GOTG2 was a sequel to a fresh concept (and not an age old franchise they've already had multiple installments of), and WW for all purposes felt and played like an original.

 

I am starting to think comic book fatigue won't be a problem, it's going to be franchise fatigue.  Marvel and DC will be fine with their expanded universes if they can still make each individual movie feel like its own thing, and not a sequel.  Star Wars should also be fine because it's Star Wars.  

 

But I think this "franchise everything" mindset is going to coming back to bite studios in the butt.  Even something that seemed like a 300m shoe-in, DM3, is disappointing.  

 

They won't scrap Minions 2 simply because it'll still be hugely profitable but I think Universal and Illumination do need more original films, The Grinch is the only film that isn't a sequel and it's a new adaptation. 

 

 

[YM!]

1 minute ago, The Panda said:

I'm even more mad now I didn't make the DM3 < DM club a few weeks back.  I had to make that stupid WW 4th weekend club instead.

I am even more mad I didn't make the DM3 < SFA non adjusted club I wanted to make.

[filmlover]

Minions 2 will be lucky to make half of what the first did. Although that would still make it profitable given the budgets of these movies on average so...

[YM!]

1 minute ago, Jonwo said:

 

The Grinch is the only film that isn't a sequel and it's a new adaptation. 

 

 

And people want come at Pixar for being sequel happy.