Weekend Thread 7/7-7/9 | ABSOLUTELY NO SPOILERS ALLOWED | SMH 117M, DM3 34M, BD 12.5M, WW 10.1M, TF5 6.3M, Biggus Dickus 3.65

[baumer]

1 minute ago, Subzero said:

 

Talking about Frontloadedness, BvS takes that (1st weekend) crown.

 

You're right about that LOL you know when your weekend is more front-loaded in a Twilight film you got some serious problems lol

[junkshop36]

Solid OW but a little frontloaded. 

 

Still see it hitting 300m DOM. It only needs a 2.56x off the OW to hit that number. I think it can do a 2.7x 

 

Great hold for WW

[FantasticBeasts]

I can't understand how we are trying to make this "walk up based" after such a frontloaded weekend.

 

[Zakiyyah6]

2 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

I can't understand how we are trying to make this "walk up based" after such a frontloaded weekend.

 

I don't get it either. The opening is good and I believe the film will do 300+mil but it was front loaded. It feels like people are grasping at straws to address why it was to make themselves feel better. I think any comparison to Wonder Woman is strange because Wonder Woman wasn't frontloaded. To me it's opening weekend multiplier is not a great sign for it's legs, no matter the walk ups. And I'm predicting it has a 2.8 multi by the way.

Edited July 9, 2017 by Zakiyyah6

[a2k]

WONDR's 2nd best weekend hold came against SM

(best weekend hold was FD weekend)

 

Date (click to view chart)	Rank	Weekend Gross	% Change	Theaters	Change / Avg.		Gross-to-Date	Week #
Jun 2–4	1	$103,251,471	-	4,165	-	$24,790	$103,251,471	1
Jun 9–11	1	$58,520,672	-43.3%	4,165	-	$14,051	$206,343,175	2
Jun 16–18	2	$41,268,850	-29.5%	4,018	-147	$10,271	$275,095,580	3
Jun 23–25	2	$24,906,310	-39.6%	3,933	-85	$6,333	$318,111,468	4
Jun 30–Jul 2	4	$15,706,011	-36.9%	3,404	-529	$4,614	$346,235,486	5
Jun 30–Jul 4	3	$24,072,825	-	3,404	-	$7,072	$354,602,300	5
Jul 7–9	4	$10,135,000 (Estimate)	-35.5%	3,091	-313	$3,279	$368,786,191 (Estimate)	6

 

 

edit: double features with SM:H could have helped.

Edited July 9, 2017 by a2knet

[KJsooner]

Probably need to take a break from the board for awhile. Much too heated 

[JohnnyGossamer]

2 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

I can't understand how we are trying to make this "walk up based" after such a frontloaded weekend.

 

Because Deadline went out of their way to mention it in their latest update...

"Overall total positive score is still a great 89% and  4 1/2 stars with a ton of walk-up business; 83% buying their tickets at the theater. This indicates that Homecoming is playing beyond the hardcore cinema-going audience. Forty-nine percent of Homecoming‘s audience was Caucasian, 24% Hispanic,  13% African American while 10% were Asian."

[XO21]

Yall are taking this frontloading thing too far, we really haven't many comps, in particular for $100m openers since a lot of movies opened in the middle of the week

[YM!]

The Dark Knight fell 29% from Friday to Saturday.

[FantasticBeasts]

Just now, JohnnyGossamer said:

Because Deadline went out of their way to mention it in their latest update...

"Overall total positive score is still a great 89% and  4 1/2 stars with a ton of walk-up business; 83% buying their tickets at the theater. This indicates that Homecoming is playing beyond the hardcore cinema-going audience. Forty-nine percent of Homecoming‘s audience was Caucasian, 24% Hispanic,  13% African American while 10% were Asian."

Well,even so, this is not indicative of backloadness imo.

 

[Zakiyyah6]

1 minute ago, YourMother said:

The Dark Knight fell 29% from Friday to Saturday.

The Dark Knight was a sequel that came out in 2008.

[XO21]

Just now, YourMother said:

The Dark Knight fell 29% from Friday to Saturday.

 

Dead's Man Chest -20,4%...but maybe they're too "old"

[TwoMisfits]

The reason they are talking about walk ups is b/c their tracking was wrong...

WW tracked to $90M 3 days before opening and opened to $103M - so they missed how the lighter presales would turn into a bigger weekend (since they probably used GOTG 2's results as a guide)

 

Spidey tracked to $100M right about at opening (and was probably using WW's weekend as the guide for how presales would become total sales) and it still opened to $117M - or 17% above tracking (and possibly more once we see final numbers)...

 

They got 2 supers movies wrong in a row...that did not happen with GOTG 2 (which tracked to $150M, and came pretty close but was under)...

 

 

[Zakiyyah6]

Both TDK and Pirates 2 are sequels. What's the excuse for a non-sequel dropping 27%?

 

I hate to get finicky but those just aren't good comps.

Edited July 9, 2017 by Zakiyyah6

[cannastop]

Just now, Zakiyyah6 said:

Also both of them are sequels. What's the excuse for a non-sequel dropping 27%?

Not really a non-sequel when it's the sixth movie with this character.

[JohnnyGossamer]

3 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

Well,even so, this is not indicative of backloadness imo.

 

I don't what it's indicative of... That's what A2K, myself and others have been discussing.

[JohnnyGossamer]

2 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

The reason they are talking about walk ups is b/c their tracking was wrong...

WW tracked to $90M 3 days before opening and opened to $103M - so they missed how the lighter presales would turn into a bigger weekend (since they probably used GOTG 2's results as a guide)

 

Spidey tracked to $100M right about at opening (and was probably using WW's weekend as the guide for how presales would become total sales) and it still opened to $117M - or 17% above tracking (and possibly more once we see final numbers)...

 

They got 2 supers movies wrong in a row...that did not happen with GOTG 2 (which tracked to $150M, and came pretty close but was under)...

 

 

Yup. Worded much more succinctly with numbers to support. This is essentially what I was getting at.

[Subzero]

Take a moment and fathom this ....

 

WW ran into POTC5, TF5, The Mummy, DM3, CAR3 .... yet it will outgross 3 combined (POTC5 + TF5 + Mummy) DOM.

And will probably outgross DOM of (DM3 + CAR3) combined as well ...

 

If someone would of said this before May, I would of bet my whole life savings on it ...and be like below now ...

 

[TwoMisfits]

3 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

Well,even so, this is not indicative of backloadness imo.

"Forty-nine percent of Homecoming‘s audience was Caucasian, 24% Hispanic,  13% African American while 10% were Asian."

 

Those %'s are what I was hoping to see...it's playing well to everyone, and everyone is giving it those good WOM ratings:)...

[Zakiyyah6]

Just now, cannastop said:

Not really a non-sequel when it's the sixth movie with this character.

Didn't I remember people arguing that it's 15 million late nights meant 130+mil because it wasn't a sequel and now it's secretly a sequel? I'm confused about why people didn't think about this early yesterday.