That One Girl Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 more like Flopther Figures 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahnamahna Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Jumanji is performing solidly. Given the slightly divisive nature of TLJ, Greatest Showman's small 2-day opening and the other family films losing screens come today, I think it's on track for a $150 million+ DOM run. It depends on its jumps the next two weekends. Since most kids were in school this last week, it might see a bigger Fri/Sat than expected. $2 million $7.2 million $7.6 million $11.2 million $12.1 million $6 million $12.8 million ($29.3 million 3-day/$42.1 million 4-day/$58.9 million 6-day) $12.4 million $8.3 million $8.6 million $11.7 million ($100.9 million 10-day) $13.1 million $6.9 million $12.0 million ($31.7 million 3-day/$43.7 million 4-day/$132.9 million 13-day) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Just now, That One Guy said: more like Flopther Figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Outside of the F&F franchise Dwanta's biggest live-action is Mummy2 with 202.0m dom. Jumanji could beat that. It should certainly beat San Andreas's 155m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpireCity Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: I'd agree if this happened last year or the year before for Star Wars...but it didn't... TFA didn't lose a show for weeks (yes, special case). Rogue One didn't lose a show through Christmas. My locals use more "flexibility" in scheduling and dropping/adding showings anytime they can, even if their schedules are "set." I mean, the one set the schedule at 18 for Dec 22-29 (except the 2 less shows for Christmas Eve and 1 less Christmas)...and then 36 hours later, they pulled 3 showings across Sun-Thur even with no new product being added... And yes, for blockbusters, especial sequel ones which might start lagging from OW, this is normal. But it's not Star Wars normal. And when it's blockbuster normal, you start getting blockbuster normal BO. Not Star Wars level BO... But, I don't know...that's fine...probably b/c I didn't post positive news. That's fine. Others may value it. You are telling me that Rogue One and The Force Awakens maintained the same session count from opening night through Christmas or longer? That is literally impossible. You have both myself and RTH telling you this isn't correct, so I will leave it up to the people to decide which side is correct here. Good luck with that. 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, EmpireCity said: You are telling me that Rogue One and The Force Awakens maintained the same session count from opening night through Christmas or longer? That is literally impossible. You have both myself and RTH telling you this isn't correct, so I will leave it up to the people to decide which side is correct here. Good luck with that. The same showing count - yes. The base off the initial weekend was the same for the entire period. It was that sold out. This "base" for TLJ was 21 on initial "set" and for 1st Monday (not counting the ballooned weekend shows added last minute). It's not now...it's gonna be 6 less in a week. I mean, it's under It, Thor, and GOTG showings in its 2nd weekend. Most of these "big movies" aren't losing their "set" by weekend #2...this one is. So, competition is mattering - and that should not be brushed aside...and probably the weaker weekdays, too... Edited December 22, 2017 by TwoMisfits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 At my theatre, The Force Awakens actually increased showings over its 2nd weekend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 predicts half of last Saturday = 32 mil that leaves 18 million Sunday-eve and around 25 Friday, 372 total. add 28 xmas and about 30 boxing day, then 20 and 20 for Wed + Thurs = 470. Next weekend could do 20 Fri + 20 Sat + 15 Sun = 525ish. 15 New Years Day, 10 on Tues, 5 on Weds, 4 on Thurs = 559 total. 25m fourth WE - 584 / 650-660 total 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomCat Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: The same showing count - yes. The base off the initial weekend was the same for the entire period. It was that sold out. This "base" for TLJ was 21 on initial "set" and for 1st Monday (not counting the ballooned weekend shows added last minute). It's not now...it's gonna be 6 less in a week. I mean, it's under It, Thor, and GOTG showings in its 2nd weekend. Most of these "big movies" aren't losing their "set" by weekend #2...this one is. So, competition is mattering - and that should not be brushed aside...and probably the weaker weekdays, too... I mean...Empire can be a dick sometimes, but this is the dude's business. If he and RTH are saying that isn't how it works, then I believe the two people who do this stuff for a living. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: The same showing count - yes. The base off the initial weekend was the same for the entire period. It was that sold out. This "base" for TLJ was 21 on initial "set" and for 1st Monday (not counting the ballooned weekend shows added last minute). It's not now...it's gonna be 6 less in a week. I mean, it's under It, Thor, and GOTG showings in its 2nd weekend. Most of these "big movies" aren't losing their "set" by weekend #2...this one is. So, competition is mattering - and that should not be brushed aside...and probably the weaker weekdays, too... Misfits, this obviously wasn't going to keep 20+ showings at midsize theaters. Theaters were able to keep It/Thor/GOTG on 4 screens through their second weekends because they had next to no competition. My theater had SW on five screens last weekend, and it's down to three with an extra show on another screen. That's totally normal and expected. Edited December 22, 2017 by WrathOfHan 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanLB Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I didn't even bother looking before a few minutes ago, but one thing that surprises me a bit about a box office forum is it seems like nobody really mentioned TLJ had the smallest decline in the top 13 on Wednesday. You'd think it just took a giant shit all over, but I mean if you're going to conclude it has bad word of mouth, wouldn't that mean every other movie in release had worse word of mouth? A movie cannot perform better than its specific window. It's like saying you won a race, but you should have won by more. I mean, sure, it doesn't matter to its final domestic total, I grant you that, money is money. But it sure as to hell does matter in any analysis of a box office chart. You don't point to the #1 biggest movie -- that should be able to fall harder -- and that also had the smallest decline, then say yeah that thing is sucking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sand-omJC said: I mean...Empire can be a dick sometimes, but this is the dude's business. If he and RTH are saying that isn't how it works, then I believe the two people who do this stuff for a living. "I'm no "industry hotshot". I'm a nobody, but I know for damn sure that 20+ years ago when I first started seriously following the industry I didn't spend my time seeing if my voice could be the loudest in the room. I spent most of my time listening, reading, learning and asking questions of people that knew more than I did." That's Empire... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) The Demand for TLJ is way down from TFA on a day to day basis. There is no need to keep 5 screens anyways. Edited December 22, 2017 by Lordmandeep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 18.1m definitely puts TLJ back on a decent track. If Friday and Saturday are strong and it can minimize its Eve drop, the rest of the holidays are good to it. Edited December 22, 2017 by The Last Panda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said: Misfits, this obviously wasn't going to keep 20+ showings at midsize theaters. Theaters were able to keep It/Thor/GOTG on 4 screens through their second weekends because they had next to no competition. My theater had SW on five screens last weekend, and it's down to three with an extra show on another screen. That's totally normal and expected. Yes, if it's not performing like the trilogy predecessor, it is...look at the movies released in 2015 - they made way for TFA, not the other way around. TLJ is making way for them like a normal blockbuster. I'm pointing out info that makes the sky high total BO predictions (of which I was one before the actual movie came out) more and more unlikely by the day. Look at Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday predicts for legs for this movie...we have a continuing down swing...this adds more data for those to take it as they will...some, apparently not so well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomCat Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 minute ago, TwoMisfits said: "I'm no "industry hotshot". I'm a nobody, but I know for damn sure that 20+ years ago when I first started seriously following the industry I didn't spend my time seeing if my voice could be the loudest in the room. I spent most of my time listening, reading, learning and asking questions of people that knew more than I did." That's Empire... ...You do know that doesn't actually prove whatever point you're trying to make, right? Nothing in what he said means this isn't his business, or that he doesn't work in this stuff. And you're so hung-up on Empire you're dragging RTH through the mud, too. RTH who has also said you are wrong. So...again. Who am I going to believe. Them, or the person who kept trying to say "Non-Scientific" polling is as good as "Scientific" polling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Downsizing's first show finished with 25 tickets here and nearly quadrupled what it sold an hour ago. Walkups on this movie are going to be big today if this early showing is any indication (there's also a good reason why they only open at 9 when a megaopener like SW or BATB is out; so many shows this early sell like shit ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, JonathanLB said: I didn't even bother looking before a few minutes ago, but one thing that surprises me a bit about a box office forum is it seems like nobody really mentioned TLJ had the smallest decline in the top 13 on Wednesday. You'd think it just took a giant shit all over, but I mean if you're going to conclude it has bad word of mouth, wouldn't that mean every other movie in release had worse word of mouth? A movie cannot perform better than its specific window. It's like saying you won a race, but you should have won by more. I mean, sure, it doesn't matter to its final domestic total, I grant you that, money is money. But it sure as to hell does matter in any analysis of a box office chart. You don't point to the #1 biggest movie -- that should be able to fall harder -- and that also had the smallest decline, then say yeah that thing is sucking. The other movies increased 30-50% on Tuesday whereas Last Jedi dropped 6% Tuesday. So it's not an Apples to Apples comparison on Wednesday. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?view=1day&sortdate=2017-12-19&p=.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpireCity Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: The same showing count - yes. The base off the initial weekend was the same for the entire period. It was that sold out. This "base" for TLJ was 21 on initial "set" and for 1st Monday (not counting the ballooned weekend shows added last minute). It's not now...it's gonna be 6 less in a week. I mean, it's under It, Thor, and GOTG showings in its 2nd weekend. Most of these "big movies" aren't losing their "set" by weekend #2...this one is. So, competition is mattering - and that should not be brushed aside...and probably the weaker weekdays, too... This is flat out incorrect..... and what competition? What movie is competing on a financial basis (outside of showing requirements) with The Last Jedi? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Just now, Sand-omJC said: or the person who kept trying to say "Non-Scientific" polling is as good as "Scientific" polling. No, I didn't say that...I said I don't put 100% faith in it, just like I don't totally discount the other 100%...but thanks for that one! Nuance...something often missing on internet chat boards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
