norbar Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 59 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said: They were also very small releases from small studios, and alienating in subject matter in execution. They had passion from a certain subset of critics and cinephiles going for them, but little else. This is a wide release from A24 that will get much broader visibility and likely broader support than those two and other similar films that never went beyond the arthouse theaters. This also has a very alienating subject matter. Also I was not arguing with you but with Fanboy who claimed critical support is all this movie needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Going to see this tomorrow night. I'm very, very intrigued, as I often am with A24 horror films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Eli Roth sent out a tweet saying it's scary as hell. And now I'm intrigued. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Spirit Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 21 hours ago, norbar said: Get out was more of a racial issue film than a horror I found the racial aspect to be a clever plot device for the horror. Get Out could have been made without racial hot takes and its horror themes would still shine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbar Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 14 hours ago, Pure Spirit said: I found the racial aspect to be a clever plot device for the horror. Get Out could have been made without racial hot takes and its horror themes would still shine. But it would not be as Oscar friendly without the racial issues. Remember politics play a large role in the Oscar. Also the Racial issue was huge for the discussion about the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I'm seeing this in 30 minutes. I haven't been this excited to see a movie since my childhood Harry Potter obsession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItU25071906 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Fanboy said: I'm seeing this in 30 minutes. I haven't been this excited to see a movie since my childhood Harry Potter obsession. In Ukraine We have to wait to June 13th((( 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Initial impression is that this is quite good but not great. Slow burn for sure but the dread is real, I was holding my breath through most of the second half. What this movie can do with just the simplest sound effect is impressive. Aster is a better director than writer though, the story meanders and the set-up and payoff is not as strong as it could have been. The ending in particular didn't work as well for me as it was clearly supposed to. Rosemary's Baby and The Witch are the best comparisons I can think of overall but both those movies are a good deal more meticulous and tightly structured as far as both horror and drama go. Collette is excellent but as far as nominations it's too early to say for certain. Don't think the GA is gonna be too crazy about it but it's not F cinemascore material either. The Witch numbers should be the target, anything above that is gravy. Edited June 7, 2018 by Jake Gittes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbar Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Jake Gittes said: Initial impression is that this is quite good but not great. Slow burn for sure but the dread is real, I was holding my breath through most of the second half. What this movie can do with just the simplest sound effect is impressive. Aster is a better director than writer though, the story meanders and the set-up and payoff is not as strong as it could have been. The ending in particular didn't work as well for me as it was clearly supposed to. Rosemary's Baby is a good comparison overall but that movie is more meticulous and tightly structured as both horror and drama. Collette is excellent but as far as nominations it's too early to say for certain. Don't think the GA is gonna be too crazy about it but it's not F cinemascore material either. The Witch numbers should be the target, anything above that is gravy. Funny thing is I really think the things that don't work for a small minority of people here are what does not work in Rosemary's baby. That movie is just sacred now so few people are willing to criticize it. Also being a better director than writer can take you a long way. Just look at Nolan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Literally rewatched Rosemary's Baby yesterday. It holds up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbar Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Jake Gittes said: Literally rewatched Rosemary's Baby yesterday. It holds up. Not saying it directly to you but unconsciously people give more credit to old movies and foreign movies since we interpret them differently vs new movies, especially the ones with a lot of hype. You can observe that with initial reactions to Blade Runner, The Thing, Matrix, Fight Club. I'm surprised you say the story meanders. The first part is slow but there are no side plots here really. It all aims at one thing. The ending is also a clear homage to Rosemary's. I really think a rewatch of the movie would help. I've seen it twice and I appreciate it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Holy fuck. I don't know how audiences are going to respond to this, it certainly won't get higher than a B CinemaScore, but woah. Even reading spoilers for the entire movie, I didn't expect what I got. I feel like even talking about how I reacted might ruin some people's expectations for this film, but I will say this: Give Alex Wolff an Oscar right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan7 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 You guys better be right this time. A Quiet Place wasn't all that hot tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Jake Gittes said: Literally rewatched Rosemary's Baby yesterday. It holds up. Yup. Gotta love Hutch and his wonderful dinner stories. Repulsion and The Tenant hold up too just not as well as Rosemary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, Fanboy said: Holy fuck. I don't know how audiences are going to respond to this, it certainly won't get higher than a B CinemaScore, but woah. Even reading spoilers for the entire movie, I didn't expect what I got. I feel like even talking about how I reacted might ruin some people's expectations for this film, but I will say this: Give Alex Wolff an Oscar right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 It's best to go in to this without any expectations. Don't even expect it to be a horror film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, norbar said: Not saying it directly to you but unconsciously people give more credit to old movies and foreign movies since we interpret them differently vs new movies, especially the ones with a lot of hype. You can observe that with initial reactions to Blade Runner, The Thing, Matrix, Fight Club. I'm surprised you say the story meanders. The first part is slow but there are no side plots here really. It all aims at one thing. The ending is also a clear homage to Rosemary's. I really think a rewatch of the movie would help. I've seen it twice and I appreciate it more. Perhaps it would. I'm not gonna be seeing it again till the home video release, though, since it's only playing here dubbed. Once was enough. I'll go into more detail once the RTM thread is opened so as not to tempt folks with spoilers here but let's just say I didn't feel like the story strands were tied together particularly well in the end. Certainly not as well as in Rosemary's Baby which is a very thematically unified movie. This one changes focus throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 These kind of movies generally don't appeal to the GA. Just is what it is... But, A24 knows how to market them well enough to make some profit. Horror has a lot going on now. A24 has their slate, It has its sequel, Halloween has another installment coming, Conjuring universe has The Nun and, of course, Luca G. has his Suspiria coming soon as well. Good times for horror hounds. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Heatnix Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Fanboy said: Holy fuck. I don't know how audiences are going to respond to this, it certainly won't get higher than a B CinemaScore, but woah. Even reading spoilers for the entire movie, I didn't expect what I got. I feel like even talking about how I reacted might ruin some people's expectations for this film, but I will say this: Give Alex Wolff an Oscar right now. Do you think many people will hate it? I read the spoiler and I know how crazy this movie might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morieris Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I read the wikipage...I have more interest in this than I did with It Comes At Night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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