The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[el sid]

I had also massive problems today due to the traffic. OTOH a good sign.

 

Again the short version.

Sonic 2 had today 1.484 sold tickets.

Up nice 88% since Monday.

Comps: The first Sonic movie had in the final count 2.103. Probably Sonic 2 will reach that number.

JC had on the same day 655 sold tickets

and Dolittle had 240.

 

Ambulance had 288 sold tickets.

Up mediocre 47% since Monday.

Comps: The Protege had on the same 83 sold tickets,

Copshop had 26

and Angel has fallen had 293.

Quite decent numbers so far.

 

The Northman had today 92 sold tickets in 4 theaters.

Comps: The Last Duel had (final count) 124 sold tickets,

The Green Knight had on Monday of its release week 159 sold tickets in 5 theaters 

and Death on the Nile had also on Monday 212 sold tickets in 7 theaters.

For sure not bad but of course the later jumps will be more significant.

 

 

[Old Spice]

DS started off with a bang in Salt Lake this morning and hasn't really let up all day. Thursday tix at Sugarhouse are now at 177 over 15 showtimes, which puts it less than 100 away from NTTD's final, which is second highest on my list. Batman is number 1 with 421. Unfortunately I don't have any NWH numbers, but this is a truly amazing start when one considers that most of the action today has been at the PLFs.

[Porthos]

*starts setting up sheets at 10am*

***TWO AND A HALF GOD-DAMN HOURS AND 300+ SHOWTIMES LATER***

*gets done setting up sheets*

(I did have to take time out while I was setting up sheet to do various other things which is why I just finished up now)

 

5030/39515 (12.73% sold) 312 showtimes

 

...

 

You Marvel Stans are a fucking menace, you know that, right? 

 

(I'll edit in The Batman comps when I track it down)

 

NWH 2am:                      6515/20399 [31.94% sold]

NWH 2pm:                    10685/24528 [43.53%sold]

Batsy 12:45pm:               1693/32197 [5.26% sold]

*[NOTE: 425 tickets sold the previous two days for various sneaks]

Edited April 6, 2022 by Porthos

[Porthos]

26 minutes ago, Porthos said:

5030/39515 (12.73% sold) 312 showtimes

 

NWH 2am:                      6515/20399 [31.94% sold]

NWH 2pm:                    10685/24528 [43.53%sold]

Batsy 12:45pm:               1693/32197 [5.26% sold]

*[NOTE: 425 tickets sold the previous two days for various sneaks]

 

So roughly half of NWH at this point in the day.  BUT NWH had been on sale since midnight.  BUT NWH had crashed servers left and right, so not a fair comp even with the 2am one.

 

No matter how it's sliced, a shit ton of tickets just from setting up my sheets.

Edited April 6, 2022 by Porthos

[cax16]

Dr Strange day 1 sales at 24 nearest theatres, 11159 tickets sold, Batman was at  this number after 17 days of presales so we obviously have a big opening weekend coming as we all expected. The earliest tracking data I have for The Batman was day 4 of presales and that was at 6032 tickets sold. 

[Tinalera]

Toronto Ontario

Taken April 6

 

Sonic 2 (Thurs April 7)

Total Theatres 8

Total Shows 24

Total sold 133

Total Remaining 7925

Total Seats 8058

Percentage 1.65

 

Friday April 8

 

8 theatres

43 shows

Total Sold 507

Total remaining 13603

Total Seats 14110

Percentage 3.59

 

Fantastic Beasts 3 (Thurs April 14)

10 Theatres

65 shows

 

Total sold 676

Total remaining 15261

Total Seats 15973

Percentage 4.24

 

May have miscounted previous theatres for Sonic 2- a couple of theatres I usually cover ARENT showing Sonic 2 Thurs or Fri! Which is weird considering those same theatres are covering FB3 just fine. Also a bit telling that FB3 has more sold 1 week out than Sonic does for Tomorrow and Fri.

 

 

[Noiret Jak]

5 minutes ago, Tinalera said:

Toronto, Ontario

Pris le 6 avril

 

Sonic 2 (jeudi 7 avril)

Nombre total de salles 8

Total des spectacles 24

Total vendu 133

Total restant 7925

Nombre total de sièges 8058

Pourcentage 1,65

 

vendredi 8 avril

 

8 salles

43 spectacles

Total vendu 507

Total restant 13603

Nombre total de sièges 14110

Pourcentage 3,59

 

Les Animaux fantastiques 3 (jeudi 14 avril)

10 Théâtres

65 spectacles

 

Total vendu 676

Total restant 15261

Nombre total de sièges 15973

Pourcentage 4,24

 

J'ai peut-être mal compté les cinémas précédents pour Sonic 2 - quelques cinémas que je couvre habituellement ARENT montrant Sonic 2 jeudi ou vendredi! Ce qui est étrange étant donné que ces mêmes théâtres couvrent très bien FB3. Aussi un peu révélateur que FB3 a plus vendu 1 semaine que Sonic pour Tomorrow et Fri.

 

 

What does that mean ?

[SupermanLego]

57 minutes ago, Porthos said:

*starts setting up sheets at 10am*

***TWO AND A HALF GOD-DAMN HOURS AND 300+ SHOWTIMES LATER***

*gets done setting up sheets*

(I did have to take time out while I was setting up sheet to do various other things which is why I just finished up now)

 

5030/39515 (12.73% sold) 312 showtimes

 

...

 

You Marvel Stans are a fucking menace, you know that, right? 

 

(I'll edit in The Batman comps when I track it down)

 

NWH 2am:                      6515/20399 [31.94% sold]

NWH 2pm:                    10685/24528 [43.53%sold]

Batsy 12:45pm:               1693/32197 [5.26% sold]

*[NOTE: 425 tickets sold the previous two days for various sneaks]

Do you think we will see this kind of tickets sold/demand for JW ? Or does it not suit that type of movie given that many are predicting JW to beat DS2 ?

[Menor the Destroyer]

6 minutes ago, SupermanLego said:

Do you think we will see this kind of tickets sold/demand for JW ? Or does it not suit that type of movie given that many are predicting JW to beat DS2 ?

JW movies don't need huge presales because they are walkup based. 

[Porthos]

3 minutes ago, SupermanLego said:

Do you think we will see this kind of tickets sold/demand for JW ? Or does it not suit that type of movie given that many are predicting JW to beat DS2 ?

 

Upfront?  Not a chance in hell.  Jurassic Park movies just have a radically different sales pattern than Marvel/SW films.  Even a different pattern than DC films for that matter.

 

As for "many are predicting JW3 to beat DS2"?   Ehhhh... Let's see the DS2 number first.  I do think some people were a little too down on DS2, so I think it says more that DS2 ain't gonna under-perform/do a light number than anything about JW3.

[SupermanLego]

1 minute ago, Menor Reborn said:

JW movies don't need huge presales because they are walkup based. 

So DS2 will have a bigger OW but JW will beat it in the long run ?

[XXR & Friends]

5 minutes ago, SupermanLego said:

So DS2 will have a bigger OW but JW will beat it in the long run ?

JWD might open bigger but it’s not as presale and demand driven so it will appear smaller if you just look at initial rush/previews. Although I do expect it to pull about $25M. I have DS-MOM doing closer to $35M but it will have an IM in the 5.3-6x range where JWD will be more like 7-8x
 

As for total DOM, I would say it’s likely JWD beats DS-MOM overall. 

Edited April 6, 2022 by KnucklesXXR

[Brainbug]

9 minutes ago, Menor Reborn said:

JW movies don't need huge presales because they are walkup based. 

 

The truth.

[BruiseCruise]

Only movie that I think can beat DS2 in presales this year is Black Panther 2

[BruiseCruise]

https://deadline.com/2022/04/fantastic-beasts-the-secrets-of-dumbledore-china-international-box-office-preview-1234995958/

 

Quote

Warner Bros’ Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets Of Dumbledore is releasing ahead of domestic in 22 international box office markets this weekend, beginning in Holland and Belgium today and including the UK, Australia, Germany, Japan, Spain and China through Friday. The latter, unfortunately, is not expected to serve up any magic given significant cinema closures.

Currently, estimates for the early offshore release are in the mid-$50M range. That’s down compared to the previous two films in the Wizarding World spinoff series. Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them and Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes Of Grindelwald in like-for-like markets and at today’s rates opened to $120M and $115M, respectively. Those films had gone out in a November corridor and played into Christmas, finaling at $580M and $495M internationally.

 

[XXR & Friends]

5 minutes ago, BruiseCruise said:

Only movie that I think can beat DS2 in presales this year is Black Panther 2

I would probably agree but I wouldn’t count out Thor.

[ThatWaluigiDude]

Is there still any hope left for Ambulance to open to at least $15M?

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, ThatWaluigiDude said:

Is there still any hope left for Ambulance to open to at least $15M?

Probably not unless walk-ups are immense. Sales are really weak near me, even for its IMAX/lone nighttime PLF showtimes.

[katnisscinnaplex]

6 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Day	Movie	Area	TC	Shows	Seats	Sold	New	% Sold
T-29	Doctor Strange 2	Jacksonville	6	147	23,303	577	577	2.48%
		Phoenix	6	127	19,243	451	451	2.34%
		Raleigh	7	113	14,179	773	773	5.45%
	Doctor Strange 2 Total		19	387	56,725	1,801	1,801	3.17%

 

I wasn't planning on pulling sales for DS2 yet, just wanted to get the seating charts as soon as possible.  Once I saw how quickly it was selling I just went for it.  1801 tickets sold during the hour and a half of pulling shows.  For reference, here are the first tracking numbers I have for the others:

 

Batman (9 hrs): 1,568

Batman + EA (9 hrs): 2,872

Spider-Man (9 hrs): 7,810

Eternals (23 hrs): 763

Shang-Chi (51 hrs): 580

Black Widow (some point in day 1): 537

 

Great start!

Day	Movie	Area	TC	Shows	Seats	Sold	New	% Sold
T-29	Doctor Strange 2	Jacksonville	7	152	24,062	1,545	968	6.42%
		Phoenix	6	127	19,243	1,529	1,078	7.95%
		Raleigh	8	114	14,258	1,860	1,087	13.05%
	Doctor Strange 2 Total		21	393	57,563	4,934	3,133	8.57%

 

Alright, here's the 9 hrs report for some actual comps.

 

Batman (Thu sales) - 3.147x (55.38m)

Batman+EA - 1.718x (37.11m)

Spider-Man - .632x (31.59m)

[Porthos]

*sees Century Arden, DOCO, and Laguna just added a bunch of showtimes already even though they had a ton of showings*

*realizes I'm gonna have a month of tracking at least 330 seat maps [when including DBOX] each and every night before final sets come in*