The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[Eric is Quiet]

18 hours ago, Eric Clade said:

Devotion Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	46	97	5868	1.65%

 

Comp

1.590x of The Last Duel T-1 (556K)

0.265x of House of Gucci T-1 (448K)

0.361x of The King's Man T-1 (288K)

1.276x of The 355 T-1 (447K)

0.396x of Moonfall T-1 (277K)

0.669x of Ambulance T-1 (468K)

0.234x of The Northman T-1 (316K)

0.061x of Bullet Train T-1 (282K)

Devotion Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	46	288	5868	4.91%

 

Comp

2.939x of The Last Duel (1.03M)

0.479x of House of Gucci (623K)

0.660x of The King's Man (528K)

1.882x of The 355 (659K)

0.804x of Moonfall (563K)

0.947x of Ambulance (663K)

0.472x of The Northman (637K)

0.164x of Bullet Train (756K)

[Inceptionzq]

16 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Avatar The Way of Water Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total

234

2354

9.94%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

186

1774

10.48%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST 6.5 HOURS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
995	259	24555	4.05%	15	161

 

AMCs sold	662
Cinemarks sold	146
Regals sold	110
Harkins sold	77

 

0.566x Black Panther WF first 11.5 hours (15.84M)

0.322x Thor L&T first 24.5 hours (9.34M)

0.715x Jurassic World 3 T-24 (12.87M)

0.511x Batman first 24 hours (11.03M)

Avatar The Way of Water Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total

269

2354

11.43%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

201

1774

11.33%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST 16 HOURS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1154	159	24555	4.70%	15	161

 

AMCs sold	749
Cinemarks sold	161
Regals sold	145
Harkins sold	99

 

0.542x Black Panther WF Day 2 (15.16M)

0.359x Thor L&T T-23 (10.41M)

0.817x Jurassic World 3 T-23 (14.71M)

1.49x Eternals T-23 (14.11M)

1.83x Dune Day 2 (9.34M)

[Inceptionzq]

On 11/21/2022 at 11:49 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Avatar The Way of Water Megaplex [+6.5 hours of sales]

 

T-24 Thursday(103 showings): 1074(+337)/25083

0.410x Thor L&T first 24.5 hours (11.89M)

1.06x Jurassic World 3 T-24 (19.01M)

0.364x Batman first 6.5 hours (7.87M)

 

T-25 Friday(154 showings): 821(+235)/36835

0.690x Thor L&T first 24.5 hours (27.98M)

0.924x Jurassic World 3 T-25 (38.43M)

1.01x Batman first 6.5 hours (35.34M)

 

T-26 Saturday(153 showings): 825(+281)/39352

1.66x Thor L&T first 24.5 hours (70.04M)

1.27x Jurassic World 3 T-26 (59.55M)

2.31x Batman first 6.5 hours (99.98M)

 

T-27 Sunday(175 showings): 235(+93)/44851

1.48x Thor L&T first 8.5 hours (48.03M)

1.77x Jurassic World 3 T-27 (68.32M)

5.00x Batman first 6.5 hours (170.70M)

Avatar The Way of Water Megaplex [+16 hours of sales]

 

T-23 Thursday(103 showings): 1228(+154)/25083

0.450x Thor L&T T-23 (13.04M)

1.17x Jurassic World 3 T-23 (21.07M)

 

T-24 Friday(154 showings): 941(+120)/36835

0.745x Thor L&T T-24 (30.21M)

0.974x Jurassic World 3 T-24 (40.51M)

 

T-25 Saturday(153 showings): 1013(+188)/39352

1.76x Thor L&T T-25 (73.93M)

1.52x Jurassic World 3 T-25 (71.27M)

 

T-26 Sunday(175 showings): 321(+86)/44851

1.82x Thor L&T T-26 (59.28M)

2.28x Jurassic World 3 T-26 (88.01M)

Edited November 23, 2022 by Inceptionzq

[Eric is Quiet]

18 hours ago, Eric Clade said:

Strange World Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	35	163	5423	3.01%

 

Comp

0.606x of The Boss Baby 2 T-1 (794K)

0.521x of Jungle Cruise T-1 (1.41M)

1.552x of The Addams Family 2 T-1 (854K)

5.621x of Ron's Gone Wrong T-1 (1.35M)

0.527x of Encanto T-1 (791K)

1.072x of The Bad Guys T-1 (1.23M)

0.148x of Lightyear T-1 (771K)

2.362x of Paws of Fury T-1 (1.19M)

0.570x of DC League of Super Pets T-1 (1.25M)

2.860x of Lyle, Lyle Crocodile T-1 (1.64M)

 

@YM! Here you go.

Strange World Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	35	406	5423	7.49%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 243

 

Comp

0.531x of Boss Baby 2 (696K)

0.515x of Jungle Cruise (1.39M)

2.126x of The Addams Family 2 (1.17M)

4.667x of Ron's Gone Wrong (1.12M)

0.599x of Encanto (898K)

1.083x of The Bad Guys (1.24M)

0.214x of Lightyear (1.11M)

2.446x of Paws of Fury (1.23M)

0.476x of DC League of Super-Pets (1.05M)

2.707x of Lyle, Lyle Crocodile (1.56M)

 

This is going to be a very long, very annoying weekend I can tell.

[Inceptionzq]

16 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Avatar The Way of Water Alamo Drafthouse [+6.5 hours of sales]

 

T-24 Thursday(127 showings): 1525(+271)/18613 ATP: $16.82

0.185x Thor L&T first 8.5 hours (5.36M)

0.466x Jurassic World 3 T-24 (8.38M)

0.261x Batman first 24.5 hours (4.59M)

 

T-25 Friday(189 showings): 1819(+441)/27738 ATP: $16.26

0.324x Thor L&T first 8.5 hours (13.15M)

0.691x Jurassic World 3 T-25 (28.74M)

0.350x Batman first 24.5 hours (12.26M)

 

T-26 Saturday(196 showings): 1980(+404)/28708 ATP: $15.46

0.413x Thor L&T first 8.5 hours (17.39M)

0.708x Jurassic World 3 T-26 (33.20M)

0.488x Batman first 24.5 hours (21.12M)

 

T-27 Sunday(191 showings): 820(+183)/27775 ATP: $15.01

0.348x Thor L&T first 8.5 hours (11.33M)

0.747x Jurassic World 3 T-27 (28.83M)

0.556x Batman first 24.5 hours (18.97M)

Avatar The Way of Water Alamo Drafthouse [+16 hours of sales]

 

T-23 Thursday(127 showings): 1791(+266)/18613 ATP: $16.65

0.208x Thor L&T T-23 (6.04M)

0.519x Jurassic World 3 T-23 (9.34M)

 

T-24 Friday(193 showings): 2116(+297)/28426 ATP: $16.30

0.355x Thor L&T T-24 (14.38M)

0.758x Jurassic World 3 T-24 (31.53M)

 

T-25 Saturday(199 showings): 2306(+326)/29268 ATP: $15.47

0.446x Thor L&T T-25 (18.78M)

0.799x Jurassic World 3 T-25 (37.47M)

 

T-26 Sunday(194 showings): 1036(+216)/28335 ATP: $14.92

0.414x Thor L&T T-26 (16.76M)

0.895x Jurassic World 3 T-26 (34.53M)

[Flamengo81]

7 hours ago, Potiki said:

Some people have problems with 3D (vision, headaches etc.) or just dislike the format. 

 

I will be seeing it both ways probably and will likely watch in 3D my first time but I don't fault anyone who either can't or doesn't want to watch in 3D. 

I don't fault anyone either. It's just hard for me to understand regarding Avatar specifically. Also here in Brazil 3D is much more popular than in the US apparently, so it could be some of this affecting my point of view too...

[Cmasterclay]

That is....quite the final day for Devotion, based on the limited numbers we have for it.

[Lothar]

 

[Flamengo81]

7 hours ago, Eric Clade said:

I have sensitive eyes and 3D can strain them. Thankfully I don't have a worse condition compared to most, but I still don't like putting myself through that.

 

Plus, and I'll be frank here, the "you have to experience it in 3D" isn't the selling point you think it is. If anything, you're making the movie sound worse. That unless you watch a movie in a specific way on a specific format, the film is lesser and you lose what made it special...well, that's basically code for the movie sucking. Plus, pretty unfair for everybody who didn't have the time to see Avatar, were too young to see Avatar in its initial release, or don't have 3D TVs with them.

 

And before you ask, I have seen Avatar in both 2D and 3D. IMAX 3D no less, since that was the only good time for me to see the movie on its re-release. And frankly, the 3D was cool, but I didn't think I gained anything from seeing it this way. I loved it just fine in 2D because I could still enjoy the amazing visuals and compelling story just fine.

I agree about the selling point. It's just that IMO it really affects the movie, I saw it in both formats and for me it definitely reduced my overall enjoyment with the movie and the world of Pandora (although I still really liked it).

[Flamengo81]

7 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

The thing is, as I said, I'm actually impressed with the level of 3D sales here given that, in the DOM market at least, there is a level of hostility to the format here.  IMO from observation, at least.

 

The US market just doesn't like the format right now.  Maybe it's backlash from crappy 3D movies.  Maybe it's backlash from a sense of 3D being "forced down our throat" during the height of the 3D craze last decade when prime viewing times/screens were given to the format and folks just didn't want it.  Maybe it's just long standing cultural baggage dating back all the way to the 50s.

 

Maybe it's none of the above.

 

But I think it's telling that 3D TVs utterly bombed here (which as an aside probably didn't help with the whole perception of 3D in the States).

 

So when I hear folks say "Disney should really emphasize the point that A2 is in 3D as that will really help sales!!!!" I would simply respond by saying "that would be certainly be a choice" on Disney's part.  Much like I have been saying with most of their marketing about A2, really.

Yeah, I think there are a cultural thing too involved. Here in Brazil 3D is a lot more acepted than in the US apparently.

[Porthos]

14 minutes ago, Flamengo81 said:

I agree about the selling point. It's just that IMO it really affects the movie, I saw it in both formats and for me it definitely reduced my overall enjoyment with the movie and the world of Pandora (although I still really liked it).

 

We're probably getting further and further away from the tracking/box office forecasting aspect here, but... The thing is, different people appreciate art differently.  For some like you, 3D added a hell of a lot.  For others it can be hit or miss.  Others might find it distracting or just not like the format at all.

 

It's the whole thing about art being subjective (within reason — no need to go reductio ad absurdum).  Some folks just want the story/presentation and some base level of great special effects is "enough" for them.  Others want as much WOW as possible.

 

I won't even bring up the hamburger/steak argument but instead stick straight to steaks.

 

Some folks like a $30 steak.  Some folks want a $50 or $60 steak.  And some will treat themselves to a $100 or more one.

 

The thing is... some folks either can't really tell the difference between a $30 steak and a $100 steak, or they don't care enough about the difference to pay the extra.

 

To swing it back to tracking/box office, cost is a consideration.  Movies are getting more expensive every year.  Surcharges add up when taking families.  Maybe 3D PLF Avatar 2 really will be better/more enjoyable for most people.

 

Question is... Is it more enjoyable ENOUGH?  Is it enjoyable enough to overcome bias/ingrained habits?  Or do people just want that $30 steak instead of the $60 or $100 one?

 

Don't know.  But it's certainly one way to look at it.

 

(I intentionally sidestepped the hamburger/steak comparison that is usually trotted out in respect for the vfx quality of A2 and everyone involved. 👍)

Edited November 23, 2022 by Porthos

[Potiki]

9 minutes ago, Lothar said:

 

To be fair I think this particular location is going to over-index no matter how the film performs due to the proximity of WDW/Pandora at Animal Kingdom.

[Eric is Quiet]

23 hours ago, Eric Clade said:

Avatar: The Way of Water Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-24 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	144	897	25560	3.51%

 

Comp

2.768x of No Time to Die's First Day of Sales (17.44M)

2.034x of Dune's First Day of Sales (10.37M)

3.385x of Fantastic Beasts 3's First Day of Sales (20.31M)

1.759x of Top Gun 2's First Day of Sales (33.87M)

1.677x of Jurassic World 3's First Day of Sales (30.18M)

0.675x of Jurassic World 3 T-23 (12.15M)

 

@Blankments @IronJimbo Here you go!

Avatar: The Way of Water Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-23 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	152	1112	26516	4.19%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 215

 

Comp

2.829x of No Time to Die's First Two Days of Sales (17.82M)

2.078x of Dune's First Two Days of Sales (10.6M)

3.106x of Fantastic Beasts 3's First Two Days of Sales (18.64M)

2.180x of Top Gun 2 T-23 (41.99M)

1.429x of Jurassic World 3's First Two Days of Sales (25.73M)

0.819x of Jurassic World 3 T-22 (14.75M)

[Eric is Quiet]

23 hours ago, Eric Clade said:

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-30 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	73	96	11535	0.83%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 20

 

Comp

0.182x of Sing 2 T-30 (1.77M)

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-29 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	73	122	11535	1.06%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 26

 

Comp

0.185x of Sing 2 T-29 (1.8M)

[Eric is Quiet]

23 hours ago, Eric Clade said:

This didn't take as long as before and I'm not tired, so...here's an unrelated bunny GIF

 

[filmlover]

Thanksgiving Box Office Forecast: WAKANDA FOREVER to Withstand STRANGE WORLD, BONES AND ALL, DEVOTION, & THE FABELMANS; GLASS ONION Could Surprise

Read more: https://t.co/A92FnytF2E #BlackPanther #GlassOnion #StrangeWorld #BonesAndAll #TheFabelmans #Devotion #BoxOffice pic.twitter.com/qbahQaOeiq

— Boxoffice Pro (@BoxOffice) November 23, 2022

[ZackM]

14 hours ago, ZackM said:

First Avatar2 run from last night:

 

Avatar: The Way of Water Alpha Chain Premiere Night Seat Report: T-24 days
	Last Day
Showings Added	3,826
Seats Added	614,143
Seats Sold	33,233
11/21/2022	Theaters	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Pct. Sold
Total	425	3,826	33,233	614,143	5.41%
% of Seats Sold	Sellouts	90%+	80%+	70%+	60%+
# of Showings	0	0	1	8	19
ATP
$19.80

 

Avatar: The Way of Water Alpha Chain Premiere Night Seat Report: T-23 days
	Last Day	2 Days Ago
Showings Added	549	3,826
Seats Added	117,851	614,143
Seats Sold	12,555	33,233
11/22/2022	Theaters	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Pct. Sold
Total	435	4,375	45,788	731,994	6.26%
% of Seats Sold	Sellouts	90%+	80%+	70%+	60%+
# of Showings	0	0	2	15	39
ATP
$19.72

[keysersoze123]

Nice increase over 24 hours. I think it will be ahead of T-21 pace of JWD(51,054). Plus sales for friday/saturday are also promising. Definitely feel good about 150m+ OW. Let us see closer to release how high it can go. I wish they had allowed reviews earlier but that seems to be against norm except for TGM. 

[ZackM]

I haven't kept daily numbers, but Glass Onion is up to 38k tickets sold at Alpha tomorrow.

[filmlover]

58 minutes ago, Potiki said:

To be fair I think this particular location is going to over-index no matter how the film performs due to the proximity of WDW/Pandora at Animal Kingdom.

Yeah, it's gonna be a monster at Disney World's theater. I'm sure starting this week the parks + Disney Springs are gonna be decorated head to toe with banners for the movie.