The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[TwoMisfits]

18 minutes ago, datpepper said:

 

 

By the way, these sneaks will have special "Throwback Pricing" of... $8. So I guess it's a throwback to 2013 or something.

 

Okay, for $8, I might be there - that's more than 1/2 off my current theater tickets.  Here's hoping Cinemark gets the 80 for Brady sneaks...

[SnokesLegs]

1 hour ago, M37 said:

Frankly, Nexflix et all should pay attention here. There’s room in the market for a limited theatrical engagement before streaming release particularly with higher profile/high audience engagement films and series 

 

Warner/HBO would be wise to set up a Wed/Thur-Sun run for their season debuts and finales 

They should’ve done that with the 2.5 hour Stranger Things season 4 finale, it’d have looked great on the big screen.

[filmlover]

I'm still confused as to who the audience for 80 for Brady is supposed to be. Older women who aren't fully engaged with everything going on in the sports world? Football fans (who are perhaps the furthest demo for a movie clearly made for older women)? Fans of Tom Brady (one of the most overexposed people on the planet to the point of fatigue right now)? I feel like of all the movies these days that could have or in fact did end up on a streaming service this is one of those that would've been better off going that route.

[Inceptionzq]

2 hours ago, datpepper said:

The Chosen will be back in theaters on Feb 3 with “The Chosen: Season Three Finale”, expect good numbers for that. Full week, full day showtimes. Tix on sale tomorrow.

Endgame 2.0 for Megaplex incoming

[Porthos]

12 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

 

 

Well, that complicates things slightly!

 

...

 

Maybe they'll promote both at halftime! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

(Yes, the presser explicitly said the Mando trailer is being released at halftime)

[el sid]

That was an unpleasant counting today...

House Party had today 71 sold tickets in 4 or 5 theaters (showtimes in 5 theaters but error report in the AMC in Michigan) for today.
Comps (both counted on Thursday for Thursday): Bob's Burgers had 477 sold tickets

and Jackass Forever had 499 sold tickets.

For Friday House Party had 64 sold tickets.
Comps (all counted on Thursday for Friday): Easter Sunday had 297 sold tickets,

Bob's Burgers had 487 sold tickets

and Jackass Forever had 917 sold tickets.

 

Sub-5M OW for sure.

 

A Man Called Otto had today 21 sold tickets in 5 theaters (also error report in the AMC in Michigan) for today.
Comps (both counted on Thursday for Thursday): Death on the Nile had 466 sold tickets,

Three Thousand Years of Longing had 231 in 7 theaters

and Mack & Rita had 11 sold tickets in 4 theaters.

For Friday A Man Called Otto had 52 sold tickets.
Comps (all counted on Thursday for Friday): Death on the Nile had 487 sold tickets,

Three Thousand Years of Longing had 192 in 7 theaters

and Mack & Rita had 9 sold tickets in 4 theaters

and Stillwater had 72 sold tickets.

 

Normally with these terrible presales (at least in my theaters) I would think even 5M OW are unreachable. But WOM seems to be good and its last weekend result and the theater average was quite fine (4.2M)...so maybe only just double digits.

[el sid]

Plane, counted today for today:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 73 (2 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 21 (1 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 2+ (1 showtime, again error report)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 1 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 15 (2 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 49 (2 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 49 (3 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 210+.

30% up since yeserday.
Comps (all counted on Thursday for Thursday): Angel Has Fallen (1.5M from previews) had 459 sold tickets,

Rambo: Last Blood (1.3M) had 406 sold tickets

and Copshop (?) had 49 sold tickets.
Around 750k from previews is my guess.

Plane, counted today for tomorrow:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 176 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 14 (4 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 2+ (3 showtimes, error report)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 6 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 7 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 39 (4 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 48 (4 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 292+.

Up unexpected meager 18% since yesterday.
Comps (all counted on Thursday for Friday): Angel Has Fallen (21.4M OW) had 446 sold tickets,

Rambo: Last Blood (18.9M) had 393 sold tickets,

Copshop (2.3M) had 37 sold tickets,

BT (30M) had 1.250 sold tickets
and The Protege (2.9M) had 91 sold tickets.
 

The jumps were poor but overall the presales aren't bad. And the Butler movies normally have very good walk-ups so I still think it will reach double digits.

[Boxofficerules]

17 minutes ago, el sid said:

 

 

A Man Called Otto had today 21 sold tickets in 5 theaters (also error report in the AMC in Michigan) for today.
Comps (both counted on Thursday for Thursday): Death on the Nile had 466 sold tickets,

Three Thousand Years of Longing had 231 in 7 theaters

and Mack & Rita had 11 sold tickets in 4 theaters.

For Friday A Man Called Otto had 52 sold tickets.
Comps (all counted on Thursday for Friday): Death on the Nile had 487 sold tickets,

Three Thousand Years of Longing had 192 in 7 theaters

and Mack & Rita had 9 sold tickets in 4 theaters

and Stillwater had 72 sold tickets.

 

Normally with these terrible presales (at least in my theaters) I would think even 5M OW are unreachable. But WOM seems to be good and its last weekend result and the theater average was quite fine (4.2M)...so maybe only just double digits.

I assume the fact that OTTO is already out on limited release would hurt presales a bit or am I wrong?

[el sid]

Just now, Boxofficerules said:

I assume the fact that OTTO is already out on limited release would hurt presales a bit or am I wrong?

You could be right. And its showtimes were announced very late in my theaters.

[Ronin46]

I think the early access stuff for The Plane and Otto being out and doing very well on the 600 theatres is playing havoc with these comps.

I think Otto does 10M+ and The Plane might well get very close to that as well. House Party is doa. I doubt it makes 10M in total domestic run. 

Edited January 12, 2023 by Ronin46

[katnisscinnaplex]

8 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
House Party	T-0	Jax	5	13	4	24	1,353	1.77%
		Phx	5	11	5	16	1,243	1.29%
		Ral	6	15	7	21	1,303	1.61%
	Total		16	39	16	61	3,899	1.56%
Plane	T-0	Jax	5	13	8	44	1,239	3.55%
		Phx	7	13	10	61	1,546	3.95%
		Ral	8	14	17	70	1,442	4.85%
	Total		20	40	35	175	4,227	4.14%

 

Plane T-0 comps

 - Devotion - .967x (594k)

 - Ambulance - 1.036x (725k)

 - Stillwater - 2.612x (731k)

 - Amsterdam - 1.012x (556k)

 - Uncharted - .139x (515k)

 - Bullet Train - .168x (562k)

 

Must have really been helped by the deal with comps falling from yesterday.  Looking like somewhere between 550k and 700k at the moment.

 

House Party T-0 comps

 - Easter Sunday - .488x (244k)

 - Violent Night - .229x (252k)

 - Massive Talent - .232x (162k)

 - Bobs Burgers - .099x (148k)

 

Hopefully we'll get a number for this.  I'll go with 250k for now.

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
House Party	1-Hr	Jax	5	13	12	36	1,353	2.66%
		Phx	5	11	11	27	1,243	2.17%
		Ral	6	15	35	56	1,303	4.30%
	Total		16	39	58	119	3,899	3.05%
Plane	1-Hr	Jax	5	13	46	90	1,239	7.26%
		Phx	7	13	32	93	1,546	6.02%
		Ral	8	14	57	127	1,442	8.81%
	Total		20	40	135	310	4,227	7.33%

 

Plane T-1 hr comps

 - Devotion - missed

 - Ambulance - missed

 - Stillwater - 2.313x (648k)

 - Amsterdam - 1.14x (629k)

 - Uncharted - missed

 - Bullet Train - .208x (698k)

All action movies - 576k

All R movies - 708k

All movies - 662k

 

Finished right in the middle of my range from this morning.  Expecting pretty good walkups so I'll go with 700k true Thu previews.  EA was in around 300 theaters so that will help.

 

House Party T-1 hr comps

 - Easter Sunday - .735x (367k)

 - Violent Night - .281x (309k)

 - Massive Talent - .277x (194k)

 - Bobs Burgers - .152x (229k)

All comedy movies - 289k

All 5pm previews - 274k

All R movies - 272k

 

I'll go with 300k for House Party previews.  Hopefully they report!

[filmlover]

 

[Eric S'ennui]

21 hours ago, Eric the Plane said:

House Party Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	37	75	5807	1.29%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 24

 

Comp

0.166x of Jackass Forever T-1 (274K)

0.273x of Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent T-1 (228K)

0.179x of The Bob's Burgers Movie T-1 (268K)

1.704x of Easter Sunday T-1 (852K)

House Party Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	37	210	5807	1.29%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 135

 

Comp

0.301x of Jackass Forever (497K)

0.505x of Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent (421K)

0.365x of The Bob's Burgers Movie (547K)

2.359x of Easter Sunday (1.18M)

 

Great finish...but also this is an obvious candidate to overindex in Philly, so don't expect the 500K this is suggesting.

[Eric S'ennui]

21 hours ago, Eric the Plane said:

Plane Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	32	218	3975	5.48%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 73

 

Comp

0.838x of Snake Eyes T-1 (1.17M)

0.705x of Last Night in Soho T-1 (494K)

0.810x of The King's Man T-1 (648K)

2.868x of The 355 T-1 (1M)

0.890x of Moonfall T-1 (623K)

0.245x of Uncharted T-1 (907K)

0.118x of Morbius T-1 (673K)

1.503x of Ambulance T-1 (1.05M)

0.193x of Bullet Train T-1 (886K)

Plane Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	32	407	3975	10.24%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 189

 

Comp

0.624x of Snake Eyes (874K)

1.052x of Last Night in Soho (736K)

0.933x of The King's Man (747K)

2.660x of The 355 (931K)

1.137x of Moonfall (796K)

0.295x of Uncharted (1.09M)

0.149x of Morbius (849K)

1.339x of Ambulance (937K)

0.232x of Bullet Train (1.07M)

 

I mean...it could get to 1M

[Ronin46]

Box Office Report

 

Rank	Film (Distributor)	Weekend Gross	Total Gross	% Change	Week #
1	Avatar: The Way of Water (Disney / 20th Century)	$39.5 M	$571.3 M	-14%	5
2	M3GAN (Universal)	$21.5 M	$60.0 M	-29%	2
3	Puss in Boots: The Last Wish (Universal / DreamWorks Animation)	$15.0 M	$108.0 M	+11%	4
4	A Man Called Otto (Sony / Columbia)	$12.7 M	$18.9 M	+202%	3
5	Plane (Lionsgate)	$11.0 M	$11.0 M	NEW	1
6	Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (Disney)	$4.3 M	$451.2 M	+22%	10
7	House Party (Warner Bros. / New Line)	$3.4 M	$3.4 M	NEW	1
8	The Whale (A24)	$1.9 M	$11.2 M	+23%	6
9	Whitney Houston: I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Sony / TriStar)	$1.7 M	$22.5 M	-30%	4

[Brainbug]

8 minutes ago, Ronin46 said:

Box Office Report

 

Rank	Film (Distributor)	Weekend Gross	Total Gross	% Change	Week #
1	Avatar: The Way of Water (Disney / 20th Century)	$39.5 M	$571.3 M	-14%	5
2	M3GAN (Universal)	$21.5 M	$60.0 M	-29%	2
3	Puss in Boots: The Last Wish (Universal / DreamWorks Animation)	$15.0 M	$108.0 M	+11%	4
4	A Man Called Otto (Sony / Columbia)	$12.7 M	$18.9 M	+202%	3
5	Plane (Lionsgate)	$11.0 M	$11.0 M	NEW	1
6	Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (Disney)	$4.3 M	$451.2 M	+22%	10
7	House Party (Warner Bros. / New Line)	$3.4 M	$3.4 M	NEW	1
8	The Whale (A24)	$1.9 M	$11.2 M	+23%	6
9	Whitney Houston: I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Sony / TriStar)	$1.7 M	$22.5 M	-30%	4

 

Man id love to see these happen.

[XXR vs XXR]

33 minutes ago, Ronin46 said:

Box Office Report

 

Rank	Film (Distributor)	Weekend Gross	Total Gross	% Change	Week #
1	Avatar: The Way of Water (Disney / 20th Century)	$39.5 M	$571.3 M	-14%	5
2	M3GAN (Universal)	$21.5 M	$60.0 M	-29%	2
3	Puss in Boots: The Last Wish (Universal / DreamWorks Animation)	$15.0 M	$108.0 M	+11%	4
4	A Man Called Otto (Sony / Columbia)	$12.7 M	$18.9 M	+202%	3
5	Plane (Lionsgate)	$11.0 M	$11.0 M	NEW	1
6	Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (Disney)	$4.3 M	$451.2 M	+22%	10
7	House Party (Warner Bros. / New Line)	$3.4 M	$3.4 M	NEW	1
8	The Whale (A24)	$1.9 M	$11.2 M	+23%	6
9	Whitney Houston: I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Sony / TriStar)	$1.7 M	$22.5 M	-30%	4

 

24 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

 

Man id love to see these happen.

 

Just keep in mind these are 4-day numbers. 

[misterpepp]

5 hours ago, filmlover said:

 

 

Any word on if this is accurate? Maybe it's just me, but from a look around, this really doesn't look like a 3k+ theater opener at all. From what I recall, Sony required Regal to limit the mystery movie showing of this to specific markets because of how Sony didn't plan to open it this wide on opening weekend. There's even locations that don't seem to be getting it until the 27th, in fact.

 

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Maybe there was a dramatic shift in the release strategy. Just seems off to me.

Edited January 13, 2023 by datpepper

[katnisscinnaplex]

35 minutes ago, datpepper said:

 

@Shawn Do you have any word on if this is accurate? Maybe it's just me, but from a look around, this really doesn't look like a 3k+ theater opener at all. From what I recall, Sony required Regal to limit the mystery movie showing of this to specific markets because of how Sony didn't plan to open it this wide on opening weekend. There's even locations that don't seem to be getting it until the 27th, in fact.

 

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Maybe there was a dramatic shift in the release strategy. Just seems off to me.

This made me curious so I ran a few numbers on my T-1 week showtime reports to look at multiples to final TC.  I'm seeing Missing in 1,446 theaters at the moment.  Here are some that were near that range a week before release and where they ended up.

 

Malignant - 1,363 - 3,485 

CopShop - 1,519 - 3,005 

Father Stu - 1,388 - 2,705

She Said - 1,375 - 2,022

Antlers - 1,504 - 2,800

A Man Called Otto - 1,376 - 3,802!

 

I could see it getting to 3k by next weekend.

[misterpepp]

11 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

This made me curious so I ran a few numbers on my T-1 week showtime reports to look at multiples to final TC.  I'm seeing Missing in 1,446 theaters at the moment.  Here are some that were near that range a week before release and where they ended up.

 

Malignant - 1,363 - 3,485 

CopShop - 1,519 - 3,005 

Father Stu - 1,388 - 2,705

She Said - 1,375 - 2,022

Antlers - 1,504 - 2,800

A Man Called Otto - 1,376 - 3,802!

 

I could see it getting to 3k by next weekend.

 

Thanks for the rundown! I'll then have to assume Sony made a switch-in-plan somewhere, it seems odd for all of those pre-existing circumstances to be in place only for a super-saturated wide release to occur regardless. Obviously theaters get added on week-of all the time, but the mystery movie thing and the theater listings for the 27th were what threw me off.

Edited January 13, 2023 by datpepper