No Way Home Weekdays/Matrix & Sing Thread (12/20-23) | 37.1M Monday/32M Tues | King's Man 800K Previews

[CoolioD1]

5 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

I think if you truly love film and moviegoing, you’d at least be interested in checking out said film in the intended format. Nolan with IMAX, Cameron with 3D etc

sorry i only do this with the ang lee high frame rate movies.

[TwoMisfits]

1 minute ago, Menor said:

I watch everything in normal 2D. Only exception will be Avatar 2, will watch that in 3D for sure. 

 

I do, too - 6 ticket upcharges is pricey...

 

And let me say on the PLF thing - a very heavy percent of the PLF goers are AMC subscribers who get it free...I'm betting Cinemark has a much smaller fill rate on the PLFs it has (and they have fewer) b/c their subscribers don't get it free...

 

The easiest way to see if people would pay for PLFs is to go the Cinemark subscriber route...

[Borobudur]

8 hours ago, Eric Smith said:

Doesn't look like it in my area. My two local Regals have one showing each on the 24th super early in the day, and then are just gone completely once Christmas Day hits, with Encanto being the oldest film of the bunch in those locations.

Oh ya, GB:A will lose 1554 theaters on 22Dec and likely will lose another few hundreds by CD.  Likely to have only 1000-1200 theaters throughout holiday. Enchanto holding strong since it still has 2800+ over the holiday, Disney really want that 2nd box office life. 

[XXR & Friends]

5 minutes ago, Menor said:

I watch everything in normal 2D. Only exception will be Avatar 2, will watch that in 3D for sure. 

 

3D is so 2009. It's all about 5D, which JC will invent in the next 3-6 months and roll out to theater in Q3. Tickets will be $40 a pop. This is how A2 makes $5B.

[Menor the Destroyer]

3 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

sorry i only do this with the ang lee high frame rate movies.

Actually these are another exception for me. Gemini Man was pretty fun to watch in HFR, probably wouldn't have liked it that much in normal.

[Joyous Legion]

5 minutes ago, ZackM said:

This makes no sense to me.  It's an audio/video medium.  These "bells and whistles" are inherent to the artform.

The snippet you quoted seems like it could pretty directly be extended to viewing at home rather than the bells and whistles of a 2d big screen 🤔

[AndyLL]

41 minutes ago, Eric Smith said:

And that's another big issue plaguing Matrix and every other movie this year. The IMAX/PLF skews this year are obscene and judging by a lot of this year's holds, folks now basically refuse to watch a movie if it isn't on a premium screen.

Yep.  We rarely go to the theater unless it's Dolby/IMAX. 

 

The only day our entire family can see Matrix is on Monday.

 

NWH gets the IMAX and splits Dolby with Sing2!?!

 

It's a 1/2 drive to our theater fairly and fairly expensive so we'll probably just go to NWH again.

 

My son's gonna watch it at work and I'll just watch it on Max

 

 

[CoolioD1]

4 minutes ago, Menor said:

Actually these are another exception for me. Gemini Man was pretty fun to watch in HFR, probably wouldn't have liked it that much in normal.

for real it was playing near me in 60 fps but i drove 2 hours so i could watch it in 120 fps. was there much of a difference? couldn't tell you didn't see it in 60. loved it though. i hope he keeps making movies like that and doesn't get discouraged by how the movies keep flopping and how much people think they suck!

Edited December 23, 2021 by CoolioD1

[Torontofan]

Say about trending 480 or so by Sunday 

[Eric is Quiet]

3 minutes ago, Weird Alegion said:

The snippet you quoted seems like it could pretty directly be extended to viewing at home rather than the bells and whistles of a 2d big screen 🤔

Well...yeah. That's also what I'm saying. If you have to see something in a PLF or even on a generic 2D big screen to get anything out of it, then either the movie doesn't hold up, or you just plain straight up don't like watching movies, but rather the specific experience of seeing a movie in a format you like. Everybody and their grandma was saying that Gravity had to be watched in IMAX 3D, otherwise you're losing the experience. But I saw Gravity on HBO on an HD TV. And wouldn't you know it, I still adored the movie, despite not having the big IMAX bells and whistles. Because Gravity is a great movie that holds up on its own regardless of format.

 

Anyways, I know that this isn't a popular opinion, and I can already tell that we're going to talk in circles, so I'll just end this argument here. What I think doesn't matter anyways. PLF is the future and theaters will probably construct a lot more of these screens in their buildings within the next couple years.

[CoolioD1]

i honestly don't go for the larger formats much can't remember the last time I watched a movie in IMAX. but tbf that's partly because I'm a miserly cheapskate. If they offered like a half price ticket but i have to watch the movie on a PSP in the janitor's closet with headphones where only the left ear works i would at least... consider it.

[Borobudur]

29 minutes ago, Menor said:

I watch everything in normal 2D. Only exception will be Avatar 2, will watch that in 3D for sure. 

But theater has been ceasing 3D for years, even EG and TROS got zero 3D showing at my area, I am not sure if they still the technical capability to wide release A2 in 3D. 

[Orestes]

47 minutes ago, Eric Smith said:

See I'm still the stalwart when it comes to PLFs. You guys know me as the psycho Timothee fan, and even I didn't shell out extra for Dune in IMAX. Outside of the costs, if you feel you have to see a movie on the biggest, loudest screen to get anything out of it, then do you really like the movie in the first place? I feel a movie should stand on its own without those bells and whistles.

 

This is why I like A-List. In the last week I've already seen NWH 1x in Dolby, 2x in IMAX, and seeing it in IMAX again on Saturday. On top of that, I saw The Kingsman today and will be seeing Licorice Pizza on Friday. Combine the other movies I saw/will see this month, and it averages out to like $2.60 a ticket.

 

That is a bit abnormal since I usually only go once a week, but even then it averages out to around 6 bucks a ticket.

[Borobudur]

28 minutes ago, Eric Smith said:

Well...yeah. That's also what I'm saying. If you have to see something in a PLF or even on a generic 2D big screen to get anything out of it, then either the movie doesn't hold up, or you just plain straight up don't like watching movies, but rather the specific experience of seeing a movie in a format you like. Everybody and their grandma was saying that Gravity had to be watched in IMAX 3D, otherwise you're losing the experience. But I saw Gravity on HBO on an HD TV. And wouldn't you know it, I still adored the movie, despite not having the big IMAX bells and whistles. Because Gravity is a great movie that holds up on its own regardless of format.

 

Anyways, I know that this isn't a popular opinion, and I can already tell that we're going to talk in circles, so I'll just end this argument here. What I think doesn't matter anyways. PLF is the future and theaters will probably construct a lot more of these screens in their buildings within the next couple years.

If this is what people have in their mind, what competitive advantage you can expect theater to posses over home viewing option? No wonder theater is dying....

[Shanks]

19 minutes ago, Borobudur said:

If this is what people have in their mind, what competitive advantage you can expect theater to posses over home viewing option? No wonder theater is dying....

I mean what Eric is saying is essentially If you can miss a movie because you couldn't see on biggest screen then, maybe you didn't liked it that much anyway. I hate to go watch movies in 3D because maybe my local cinemas are in-competent in 3D but it gets too dark for me. For Spidey, We had no choice but to watch it on 3D or wait 5 days, We all, me and my friends saw the 3D version. 

Edited December 23, 2021 by Shanks

[Orestes]

3 minutes ago, Shanks said:

I mean what Eric is saying is essentially If you can miss a movie because you couldn't see on biggest screen then, maybe you didn't liked it that much anyway. I hate to go watch movies in 3D because maybe my local cinemas are in-competent in 3D but it gets too dark for me. For Spidey, We had no choice but to watch it on 3D or wait 5 days, We all, me and my friends saw the 3D version. 

Being forced to see a movie in 3D sucks. I stopped going to IMAX showings for a while because everydamnthing was in 3D. I was so happy when they finally came to their senses and switched back to glorious 2D.

[filmlover]

Definitely a rather crummy start for Matrix, especially when it's probably frontloaded given its availability to watch at home, but I can't claim it couldn't be seen coming from miles away. Not only did it have to deal with HBO Max, but it also had Spider-Man completely overshadowing it as the nostalgia-powered event for the ages and the reviews, while fine overall, likely weren't enough to overcome the aforementioned negatives. Obviously was stuck in an unfortunate and unwinnable situation, but this is a movie that probably needed every single thing to go right to become a true event.

 

Sing 2 seems off to a very good start with those numbers honestly. First movie pulled $11M on its opening Wednesday right before Christmas in non-pandemic times and blew up over the holidays from there, so if it takes off similarly that would prove the first movie's huge run wasn't a fluke at all.

[AniNate]

Sing 2 is the first kids movie that's come out since kids could get the full regiment, I can definitely see it benefiting from families feeling liberated.

Edited December 23, 2021 by AniNate

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

B- Cinemascore for Matrix

[Joyous Legion]

9 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

B- Cinemascore for Matrix

M1 A-

M2 B+

M3 B

M4 B-  

 

It’s like poetry