el sid Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Jepp, FB was underestimated and had 60k admissions yesterday. The evenings and late evenings are really strong and/or the film has more walk-ups than expected. Hartmanns was a little bit overestimated and had 30k, Arrival and Dr. Strange were minimal underestimated with actual 21k and 6.5k moviegoers. Deepwater Horizon had at least 6k but that still stays a disaster. Source: insidekino.de/forum / Blickpunkt: Film 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Friday: FB-117,413(-22.5%) Wilkommen bei den Hartmanns-88,806(-28.6%) Jack Reacher-16,750(-35.2%) Doctor Strange-12,815(-50.5%) Bridget Jones-11,400(-49.8%) Girl on the Train-7,553(-51.5%) New releases Arrival-37,251 Deepwater Horizon-13,053 Florence Foster Jenkins-10,221 Bad Santa 2-2,784 Edited November 25, 2016 by efialtes76 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Amazing Friday drop for FB. Looks like it's having soft drops in a lot of markets, including the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Wow, that's some incredible friday drop for FB. If it can maintain that pace over the weekend, it might finish with 625k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seduh Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 ¡amazing drop for FB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 2nd trend by insidekino: 1. Fantastic Beasts 575k 2. Wilkommen bei den Hartmanns 250k 3. Arrival 160k 4. Trolls 65k 5. Deepwater Horizon 65k following that: Pettersson &Findus, Doctor Strange both around 50k, Jack Reacher 2 and Florence Foster Jenkins around 45k, Bridget Jones, Finding Dory and Bad Santa 2 at 25k. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 From 525k to 575k. Hope it can reach 600k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) Final Trend: FB-550K Wilkommen...-240K Arrival-145K Trolls-65K Deepwater Horizon-60K Edited November 27, 2016 by efialtes76 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 FB 550k -33%/-40% 1,65M to 1,7M Hartmanns 240k -41% Why such a hard drop... Trolls 65k -41% Should be near 1M, probably within 10k DS 47,5k -55% FD 27,5k -47% 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketheavenger Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Still solid for FB. Hartmanns is a huge success already, so it dropping a little harder is acceptable. Arrival's number obviously isn't great, but for this type of movie it could've been much worse. The other movies unfortunately with mostly mediocre/bad drops, probably because weather has been getting sunnier the last few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Final number for FB seems to be 530k, -36%, a bit worse than I hoped. But overall numbers dropped >30% from last weekend despite four (semi)wide openers, so a deflated weekend in general to put the drop into context. Edited November 28, 2016 by IndustriousAngel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH84 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I think the opening of the Christmas markets everywhere combined with the cold but sunny weather were the reason for the lower numbers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 On the insidekino boards it says: 1. FB 530k 2. Willkommen bei den Hartmanns 232.5 3. Arrival 140k 4. Trolls 65k 5. Pettersson & Findus 50k That would mean almost everything would be down a bit from the last trend. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Mark G has made his December forecast: 1 4,4M Rogue One 2 3,5M Sing 3 2,0M Vaiana 4 2,0M Vier gegen die Bank 5 0,8M Robbi, Tobbi und das Fliewatüüt 4,4M for RO would be disappointing to me... I hope for at least 5M admissions. The drop would be more than 50% Maybe Vaiana can get a bit more than that - but for Sing 3,5M should be the roof. I don't think it'll do more than that even if it has the potential. But I really hope that I can see Train to Busan, which will open 2nd December. Does anybody know why the movies on the last weekend open to such strange dates? Vier gegen die Bank on Sunday and Assassin's on Tuesday? Or is it just to get as much as possible Holiday? Source: http://www.insidekino.de/Vorschau/VorschauDEZ16.htm Edited November 28, 2016 by Aristis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giesi Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 16 minutes ago, Aristis said: Mark G has made his December forecast: 1 4,4M Rogue One 2 3,5M Sing 3 2,0M Vaiana 4 2,0M Vier gegen die Bank 5 0,8M Robbi, Tobbi und das Fliewatüüt 4,4M for RO would be disappointing to me... I hope for at least 5M admissions. The drop would be more than 50% Maybe Vaiana can get a bit more than that - but for Sing 3,5M should be the roof. I don't think it'll do more than that even if it has the potential. Source: http://www.insidekino.de/Vorschau/VorschauDEZ16.htm That would mean RO would become the least attended year-end #1 movie since at least 1966, according to inside.kino! I hope RO can manage to reach a higher attendance number. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, Giesi said: That would mean RO would become the least attended year-end #1 movie since at least 1966, according to inside.kino! I hope RO can manage to reach a higher attendance number. The next year can only get better But really, 4,4M for the (probably) most attended movie of the year would be a disaster... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, Aristis said: The next year can only get better But really, 4,4M for the (probably) most attended movie of the year would be a disaster... Disaster is a harsh word ... fact is that overall attendance was not soo bad this year: few (and smaller) blockbusters, but more surprise successes. Here in Austria, the term "disaster" for 2016 might be more applicable - quarters 1 and 2 were disastrous - but 3rd quarter was really good so even here I see chances at finishing with at least a decent number. Of course, if you're only interested in records and blockbusters, then 2016 must be one of the most boring years in history Edited November 29, 2016 by IndustriousAngel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Fantastic Beasts 532.203 767 694 1.655.387 16.916.310 -36 2 2 Willkommen bei den Hartmanns 234.444 714 328 2.059.783 16.800.322 -42 4 3 Arrival 138.913 397 350 158.198 1.316.447 - 1 4 Trolls 65.804 653 101 992.943 7.242.484 -41 6 5 Pettersson & Findus - Weihnachten 48.428 582 83 293.628 1.863.660 -27 4 6 Doctor Strange 48.276 405 119 1.378.096 15.093.688 -54 5 7 Jack Reacher 2 44.881 512 88 396.832 3.407.526 -54 3 8 Deepwater Horizon 42.836 361 119 65.514 478.758 - 1 9 Florence Foster Jenkins 41.381 171 242 46.924 392.302 - 1 10 Finding Dory 25.857 519 50 3.735.282 31.234.629 -50 9 11 Ikinci Sans 21.270 52 409 21.924 211.922 - 1 12 Paterson 19.877 99 201 62.703 486.429 -28 2 13 Bridget Jones's Baby 17.536 335 52 1.152.283 9.838.178 -62 6 14 Tini - Violettas Zukunft 15.445 421 37 247.126 1.671.754 -55 4 15 The Girl on the Train 15.057 265 57 473.198 4.057.754 -61 5 16 I, Daniel Blake 14.287 82 174 19.936 145.929 - 1 17 Inferno 11.822 247 48 1.486.226 13.050.694 -69 7 18 Café Society 11.423 127 90 100.952 793.895 -53 3 19 Bad Santa 2 10.189 137 74 27.094 176.830 - 1 20 Burg Schreckenstein 10.105 385 26 307.113 1.925.668 -52 6 Not that good a weekend, mostly harsh drops, and no real popular opener. I was hoping for more from Arrival, but the 140k are at least half decent for less than 400 theaters. Florence Foster Jenkins also did ok for its few theaters and the elusive theme; but with Deepwater Horizon and Bad Santa 2 we had two instant flops this weekend. Among holdovers, both Willkommen bei den Hartmanns and Fantastic Beasts dropped hard but not harder than the rest, hopefully we'll see better drops in the coming weeks. Finding Dory is still playing in >500 theaters but the PTA is already so low I can't see a rebound for the holidays - 4mil are dead. Next weekend: Sully and Underworld 5 are the biggest international releases - both starting with very little noise and less expectations, so Fantastic Beasts will stay on top. Domestic kid's book adaption Robbi, Tobbi und das Fliewatüüt is the next family release for the upcoming holiday business, no big opening is expected but it should do ok in the long run, in the same league as Petterson&Findus. Probably the most interesting release from the cinephile's POV is Polder - Tokyo Heidi, a Swiss/German artsy horror/SF/games-mixup, in very limited release. Also interesting, but with little mass-appeal: Polish high-profile biography Marie Curie. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 How is 36% for FB a hard drop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seduh Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Heretic said: How is 36% for FB a hard drop? i was thinking exactly the same. everything fell harder and it had the second best opening of the year. Good hold, i hope it can reach 3 million admisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...