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[el sid]

Jepp, FB was underestimated and had 60k admissions yesterday. The evenings and late evenings are really strong and/or the film has more walk-ups than expected.
Hartmanns was a little bit overestimated and had 30k, Arrival and Dr. Strange were minimal underestimated with actual 21k and 6.5k moviegoers.
Deepwater Horizon had at least 6k but that still stays a disaster.

Source: insidekino.de/forum / Blickpunkt: Film

 

[efialtes76]

Friday:

 

FB-117,413(-22.5%)

Wilkommen bei den Hartmanns-88,806(-28.6%)

Jack Reacher-16,750(-35.2%)

Doctor Strange-12,815(-50.5%)

Bridget Jones-11,400(-49.8%)

Girl on the Train-7,553(-51.5%)

 

New releases

Arrival-37,251

Deepwater Horizon-13,053

Florence Foster Jenkins-10,221

Bad Santa 2-2,784

 

 

 

Edited November 25, 2016 by efialtes76

[Heretic]

Amazing Friday drop for FB. Looks like it's having soft drops in a lot of markets, including the US. 

 

 

[Poseidon]

Wow, that's some incredible friday drop for FB. If it can maintain that pace over the weekend, it might finish with 625k. 

[seduh]

¡amazing drop for FB!

[George Parr]

2nd trend by insidekino:

 

1. Fantastic Beasts 575k

2. Wilkommen bei den Hartmanns 250k

3. Arrival 160k

4. Trolls 65k

5. Deepwater Horizon 65k

 

following that: Pettersson &Findus, Doctor Strange both around 50k, Jack Reacher 2 and Florence Foster Jenkins around 45k, Bridget Jones, Finding Dory and Bad Santa 2 at 25k.

[Noctis]

From 525k to 575k. Hope it can reach 600k.

[efialtes76]

Final Trend:

 

FB-550K

Wilkommen...-240K

Arrival-145K

Trolls-65K

Deepwater Horizon-60K

Edited November 27, 2016 by efialtes76

[Aristis]

FB 550k -33%/-40% 1,65M to 1,7M

Hartmanns 240k -41% Why such a hard drop...

Trolls 65k -41% Should be near 1M, probably within 10k

DS 47,5k -55%

FD 27,5k -47%

[miketheavenger]

Still solid for FB. Hartmanns is a huge success already, so it dropping a little harder is acceptable. Arrival's number obviously isn't great, but for this type of movie it could've been much worse. The other movies unfortunately with mostly mediocre/bad drops, probably because weather has been getting sunnier the last few days.

[IndustriousAngel]

Final number for FB seems to be 530k, -36%, a bit worse than I hoped. But overall numbers dropped >30% from last weekend despite four (semi)wide openers, so a deflated weekend in general to put the drop into context.

Edited November 28, 2016 by IndustriousAngel

[HH84]

I think the opening of the Christmas markets everywhere combined with the cold but sunny weather were the reason for the lower numbers.

[George Parr]

On the insidekino boards it says:

 

1. FB 530k

2. Willkommen bei den Hartmanns 232.5

3. Arrival 140k

4. Trolls 65k

5. Pettersson & Findus 50k

 

That would mean almost everything would be down a bit from the last trend.

[Aristis]

Mark G has made his December forecast:

 

1	4,4M	Rogue One
2	3,5M	Sing
3	2,0M	Vaiana
4	2,0M	Vier gegen die Bank
5	0,8M	Robbi, Tobbi und das Fliewatüüt

 

4,4M for RO would be disappointing to me... I hope for at least 5M admissions. The drop would be more than 50%

Maybe Vaiana can get a bit more than that - but for Sing 3,5M should be the roof. I don't think it'll do more than that even if it has the potential.

 

But I really hope that I can see Train to Busan, which will open 2nd December.

 

Does anybody know why the movies on the last weekend open to such strange dates? Vier gegen die Bank on Sunday and Assassin's on Tuesday? Or is it just to get as much as possible Holiday?

 

Source: http://www.insidekino.de/Vorschau/VorschauDEZ16.htm

Edited November 28, 2016 by Aristis

[Giesi]

16 minutes ago, Aristis said:

Mark G has made his December forecast:

 

1	4,4M	Rogue One
2	3,5M	Sing
3	2,0M	Vaiana
4	2,0M	Vier gegen die Bank
5	0,8M	Robbi, Tobbi und das Fliewatüüt

 

4,4M for RO would be disappointing to me... I hope for at least 5M admissions. The drop would be more than 50%

Maybe Vaiana can get a bit more than that - but for Sing 3,5M should be the roof. I don't think it'll do more than that even if it has the potential.

 

Source: http://www.insidekino.de/Vorschau/VorschauDEZ16.htm

That would mean RO would become the least attended year-end #1 movie since at least 1966, according to inside.kino! I hope RO can manage to reach a higher attendance number. 

[Aristis]

11 minutes ago, Giesi said:

That would mean RO would become the least attended year-end #1 movie since at least 1966, according to inside.kino! I hope RO can manage to reach a higher attendance number. 

The next year can only get better But really, 4,4M for the (probably) most attended movie of the year would be a disaster...

[IndustriousAngel]

10 hours ago, Aristis said:

The next year can only get better But really, 4,4M for the (probably) most attended movie of the year would be a disaster...

Disaster is a harsh word ... fact is that overall attendance was not soo bad this year: few (and smaller) blockbusters, but more surprise successes. Here in Austria, the term "disaster" for 2016 might be more applicable - quarters 1 and 2 were disastrous - but 3rd quarter was really good so even here I see chances at finishing with at least a decent number.

 

Of course, if you're only interested in records and blockbusters, then 2016 must be one of the most boring years in history

Edited November 29, 2016 by IndustriousAngel

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Fantastic Beasts	532.203	767	694	1.655.387	16.916.310	-36	2
2	Willkommen bei den Hartmanns	234.444	714	328	2.059.783	16.800.322	-42	4
3	Arrival	138.913	397	350	158.198	1.316.447	-	1
4	Trolls	65.804	653	101	992.943	7.242.484	-41	6
5	Pettersson & Findus - Weihnachten	48.428	582	83	293.628	1.863.660	-27	4
6	Doctor Strange	48.276	405	119	1.378.096	15.093.688	-54	5
7	Jack Reacher 2	44.881	512	88	396.832	3.407.526	-54	3
8	Deepwater Horizon	42.836	361	119	65.514	478.758	-	1
9	Florence Foster Jenkins	41.381	171	242	46.924	392.302	-	1
10	Finding Dory	25.857	519	50	3.735.282	31.234.629	-50	9
11	Ikinci Sans	21.270	52	409	21.924	211.922	-	1
12	Paterson	19.877	99	201	62.703	486.429	-28	2
13	Bridget Jones's Baby	17.536	335	52	1.152.283	9.838.178	-62	6
14	Tini - Violettas Zukunft	15.445	421	37	247.126	1.671.754	-55	4
15	The Girl on the Train	15.057	265	57	473.198	4.057.754	-61	5
16	I, Daniel Blake	14.287	82	174	19.936	145.929	-	1
17	Inferno	11.822	247	48	1.486.226	13.050.694	-69	7
18	Café Society	11.423	127	90	100.952	793.895	-53	3
19	Bad Santa 2	10.189	137	74	27.094	176.830	-	1
20	Burg Schreckenstein	10.105	385	26	307.113	1.925.668	-52	6

 

Not that good a weekend, mostly harsh drops, and no real popular opener. I was hoping for more from Arrival, but the 140k are at least half decent for less than 400 theaters. Florence Foster Jenkins also did ok for its few theaters and the elusive theme; but with Deepwater Horizon and Bad Santa 2 we had two instant flops this weekend. Among holdovers, both Willkommen bei den Hartmanns and Fantastic Beasts dropped hard but not harder than the rest, hopefully we'll see better drops in the coming weeks. Finding Dory is still playing in >500 theaters but the PTA is already so low I can't see a rebound for the holidays - 4mil are dead.

 

Next weekend: Sully and Underworld 5 are the biggest international releases - both starting with very little noise and less expectations, so Fantastic Beasts will stay on top. Domestic kid's book adaption Robbi, Tobbi und das Fliewatüüt is the next family release for the upcoming holiday business, no big opening is expected but it should do ok in the long run, in the same league as Petterson&Findus. Probably the most interesting release from the cinephile's POV is Polder - Tokyo Heidi, a Swiss/German artsy horror/SF/games-mixup, in very limited release. Also interesting, but with little mass-appeal: Polish high-profile biography Marie Curie.

[Heretic]

How is 36% for FB a hard drop? 

[seduh]

2 hours ago, Heretic said:

How is 36% for FB a hard drop? 

i was thinking exactly the same. everything fell harder and it had the second best opening of the year. Good hold, i hope it can reach 3 million admisions