cannastop Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 53 minutes ago, JWR said: I was so certain that Despicable Me 4 was a lock for the highest grossing family film this summer. But after this movie made $30M on a Wednesday, I may have to rethink that... It was apparent it wouldn't be the biggest family movie after the OW, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWR Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 hours ago, cannastop said: It was apparent it wouldn't be the biggest family movie after the OW, imo. Oh, that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 On 6/18/2024 at 9:19 PM, Insomnia said: I don't agree with the notion that a good or bad opening is determined by budget. Whatever the studio spends on a movie is their problem. Let's say a studio inexplicably spends $180M or something on a horror film and said horror film opens to $40M and legs to $100M to $120M. You can't say that's a bad opening. It's just the studio's fault for spending too much on it. The same logic applies to the upcoming expensive as hell Mission Impossible. Let's say its true the budget is nearing $400M, but it goes on to earn $900M. I'm going to call that a successful performance. It's just not successful for the studio , which, as a box office nerd and a customer, I don't really give a crap about. Again, that part of it is their problem. Back to Inside Out 2, yeah it's irrelevant how one would label an $85M opening now but I do believe everyone is allowed to feel however they want about a particular number. Who cares, unless it's over the top silly (which saying $85M would be underwhelming isn't, not by a long shot). In the real world, Budget sure as hell does matter if a opening is good or bad. I am not denying that studios overspend a movies far to often....I often bitched about that....but this whole idea of divorcing what is a good opening into some abstract universe where how much a film cost is irrevelent is nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 The doubt comes from the fact that just because the studio reports a certain number as a budget doesn't necessarily mean that's what it actually is. Hollywood accounting is a thing and there can be all kinds of ulterior motives for why a number is fudged lower or higher when made public information. You can only really glean just how successful the movie was in the studio's eye sometimes long after the fact with some distance from the realtime box office run. In Pixar's case though I think it's reasonable to assume $200 million is in the ballpark given how consistent it's been through their canon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeQ Posted Friday at 10:05 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:05 PM This is Pixar's best sequel, in my opinion. It managed to be as funny and profoundly moving as the first - in some ways, even more impressively so, given the greater complexity of emotions as Riley is growing up. The larger themes and concepts that the film explores feel still so rooted in an authentic human experience. In a way, it is not surprising that the film has blown up at the box office, as these films are really tracking our emotional journey as humans. Looking forward to following this box office run into it's second weekend and beyond. Peace, Mike 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomnia Posted Friday at 11:10 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:10 PM 3 hours ago, dudalb said: In the real world, Budget sure as hell does matter if a opening is good or bad. I am not denying that studios overspend a movies far to often....I often bitched about that....but this whole idea of divorcing what is a good opening into some abstract universe where how much a film cost is irrevelent is nonsense. I think bad for the studio and bad for the film are two different things. I won't argue that there are real world concerns when a movie doesn't make back it's budget. That's obvious. But again, using my previous example, if Mission: Impossible 8 makes $900 million worldwide but still loses money due to an obscene budget, I can't call that a bad number. It's just not. Again, it's the studio's problem if they spent so much that they still couldn't make money with that result. There's only so much you can ask from a film and from the audience in some cases. That is just as much reality as what you're talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted Saturday at 12:44 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:44 AM I would presume studios have made writeoffs beforehand if they decide they did in fact overspend on a movie. I think in those cases the audience reception is the main deciding factor if a movie's box office run is good or bad in hindsight and was worth the investment. A movie that opens to $200 mil but only ends up making $400 mil total doesn't inspire as much of a morale boost as one that opens to only $50 mil but legs out to the same total. Lightyear and Elemental are kind of night and day extremes of that difference. Yeah they were likely a bomb and success nominally but their word of mouth / legs really drove the narrative both ways as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs20242 Posted Saturday at 01:27 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:27 AM 95+ million for second weekend according to Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/s/CKfQK7oMwj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWR Posted Saturday at 03:40 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:40 PM Deadline is projecting $98M... https://deadline.com/2024/06/box-office-inside-out-2-record-bikeriders-1235980501/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomnia Posted Saturday at 10:10 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:10 PM I feel like it needs the $40M Saturday to get to $100M (30.5 + 40 + 32). It's insane saying that out loud given the opening Saturday number was 51-ish. What an insane hold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lehnsherr Posted Sunday at 06:55 AM Share Posted Sunday at 06:55 AM Best sequel outside the Toy Story ones by Pixar. Wouldn't be surprised if they decide this is the franchise to do multiple sequels like Toy Story. You'll always have something to say about growing up and new emotions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxx93 Posted Sunday at 06:13 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:13 PM A100 million second weekend for a movie that didn't open to 200 million is just... insane. Absolute insanity. I can't believe this is actually happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted Sunday at 09:09 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:09 PM 41% drops get IO2 to $600M! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted Monday at 10:22 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:22 AM I think this is way better than other Pixar sequel like finding dory or I2 and Ts4. Not as emotional charged like TS3 or smart like TS2 but definitely a better of the bunch. Somehow this sequel manage to retain some of the novelty or freshness of the first one unlike other Pixar sequel where their freshness just naturally diminish as sequel goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted Monday at 09:46 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:46 PM This is the same outlet that thought that Inside Out 2 would have a $60m OW, so take this with a grain of salt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago I went into both Inside Out 2 and Elemental not expecting to be very impressed. Elemental actually disarmed me, but Inside Out 2 didn't. Probably not that many people feel the same way but 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lehnsherr Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago On 6/25/2024 at 7:46 AM, cannastop said: This is the same outlet that thought that Inside Out 2 would have a $60m OW, so take this with a grain of salt. Dunno so far like live action there's a struggle for original animation at the BO. Maybe though something like Mario and Spider-Verse proves is animation can be viable adaptations of large IP. Zelda and Minecraft could have been animated and arguably do better if they're animated? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I actually loved this film. I really liked the first, but this one tops it solely because of how well they depicted Anxiety. You could hear a lot of women crying during some pivotal scenes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...