charlie Jatinder Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) No 3 Idiots in list. 3 Idiots in Top 5. Edited December 15, 2022 by charlie Jatinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 minute ago, charlie Jatinder said: No 3 Idiots till now. Huh. So... 3 Idiots in Top 5. Woah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 hour ago, chasmmi said: I know I am very blase about casually saying that most of them are the same samurai film just remixed slightly, but a part of me does suspect that Kurosawa is a bit like you Kubrick, Tarantino, Hitchcock and such in that they have a way of doing things that means that if you love one film, there is a good shot that you will love everything. This isn't even a Kurosawa movie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Jake Gittes said: This isn't even a Kurosawa movie. See, this is how qualified I am to comment on this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 3 hours ago, chasmmi said: 6th Seven Samurai (Japan) 9 Votes: 242 Points 2020 Position: 25th But there are only four of them, and I don't think they are all samurai. Ah, the Bug's Life Premake. I think before this list even began, there were maybe 3 films that you would 100% be certain would make the top 10 and this is one of them. The most famous Japanese samurai film that spawned riffs and interpretations in multiple other nations and mediums. It is a classic and will likely never leave the top 10 of these votes. Is anything not Japan going to appear? The real list we all care about: 29 - Japan 14 - India 13 - France 8 - South Korea 5 - Sweden 5 - Hong Kong 4 - Germany 4 - Italy 2 - Mexico 2 - Russia (includes USSR) 1 - Poland 1 - China 1 - Denmark 1 - Norway 1 - Indonesia 1 - Brazil 1 - Taiwan I have a feeling Seven Samurai wasn't 25th last time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/15/2022 at 10:33 PM, Tower said: I have a feeling Seven Samurai wasn't 25th last time. It was probably lower agreed. Let me check... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 5th Three Idiots (India) 7 Votes: 245 Points 2020 Position: 18th Or two idiot...apparently And finally some folks can be happy/disappointed. This is officially the best Indian film ever made and I can confidently say that... I have no idea how true that is, but Let's Go Team Kal Ho Naa Ho!! Anyhow, this certainly has its fans and there was a brief period where it was threatening to cause an even bigger impact. Either way, this is a good performance. And that takes India to 15 films and most likely confirms its position at number two (I cannot see France having 2 of the top 4, can you?) The real list we all care about: 29 - Japan 15 - India 13 - France 8 - South Korea 5 - Sweden 5 - Hong Kong 4 - Germany 4 - Italy 2 - Mexico 2 - Russia (includes USSR) 1 - Poland 1 - China 1 - Denmark 1 - Norway 1 - Indonesia 1 - Brazil 1 - Taiwan 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 4th Pan's Labyrinth (Mexico) 8 Votes: 251 Points 2020 Position: 4th Looks like a lovely time. From India's best film to European Language's best film. This film possibly would have won this vote if it had existed like 10 years ago when this film was fresher in the mind and another particular genre was quite as mainstream as it is now. It clearly has a lot of fans and is special for the fact that it is the highest rated film that I have not seen. I was going to give this to Spain but upon the rigorous fact-checking that I am famous for, I discovered it received the Oscar nomination in the name of Mexico, so that is where it goes. Which also allows Mexico to proudly declare itself clearly better than Russia. The real list we all care about: 29 - Japan 15 - India 13 - France 8 - South Korea 5 - Sweden 5 - Hong Kong 4 - Germany 4 - Italy 3 - Mexico 2 - Russia (includes USSR) 1 - Poland 1 - China 1 - Denmark 1 - Norway 1 - Indonesia 1 - Brazil 1 - Taiwan 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 3rd Princess Mononoke (Japan) 14 Votes: 395 Points 2020 Position: 11th Well that is a rubbish attempt at a poster. Ghibli's 5th best film has done okay for itself here. Arguably the most epic Ghibli animation out there. Definitely one that has a strong case for being great and in my eyes, the one film that could potentially make a really cool live action remake if done with love. But it likely would be done with money so forget I said that. That brings up 30 for Japan and 13 for Studio Ghibli alone. Wow! 13 films for one studio is almost as impressive as the fact that I briefly questioned what percentage of the top 100 that would be. I am very clever. The real list we all care about: 30 - Japan 15 - India 13 - France 8 - South Korea 5 - Sweden 5 - Hong Kong 4 - Germany 4 - Italy 3 - Mexico 2 - Russia (includes USSR) 1 - Poland 1 - China 1 - Denmark 1 - Norway 1 - Indonesia 1 - Brazil 1 - Taiwan 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, chasmmi said: 5th Three Idiots (India) 7 Votes: 245 Points 2020 Position: 18th Or two idiot...apparently And finally some folks can be happy/disappointed. This is officially the best Indian film ever made and I can confidently say that... I have no idea how true that is, but Let's Go Team Kal Ho Naa Ho!! Anyhow, this certainly has its fans and there was a brief period where it was threatening to cause an even bigger impact. Either way, this is a good performance. And that takes India to 15 films and most likely confirms its position at number two (I cannot see France having 2 of the top 4, can you?) The real list we all care about: 29 - Japan 15 - India 13 - France 8 - South Korea 5 - Sweden 5 - Hong Kong 4 - Germany 4 - Italy 2 - Mexico 2 - Russia (includes USSR) 1 - Poland 1 - China 1 - Denmark 1 - Norway 1 - Indonesia 1 - Brazil 1 - Taiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 2nd Spirited Away (Japan) 15 Votes: 474 Points 2020 Position: 2nd So this film took place in some quiet village. Okay. The first non-child targeted Japanese animation that many of possibly watched. Fun fact. Even though it ended up finishing 80 points clear. Both this, and number 1 both were trailing Mononoke for a far amount of the tally up and then the top 2 pulled clear in the last few votes sent in. I think there were two big questions heading into this list for me. One was whether the top 2 from last time out would face any competition for their spots this time around, and the other was whether Spirited Away could beat the film that pipped it to the post the first time around. Well, we have the answer now. So Japan hits 31 votes. Anime about 17 entries on its own meaning that India just about pipped Japan for the title of most live action placements (this is significant as it is much easier to watch a dubbed animation than a dubbed live action film for example). The real list we all care about: 31 - Japan 15 - India 13 - France 8 - South Korea 5 - Sweden 5 - Hong Kong 4 - Germany 4 - Italy 3 - Mexico 2 - Russia (includes USSR) 1 - Poland 1 - China 1 - Denmark 1 - Norway 1 - Indonesia 1 - Brazil 1 - Taiwan 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 1st Parasite (Japan) 16 Votes: 476 Points 2020 Position: 1st Was hoping that this gimmick would end on a high... it didn't Yet again the second best film of the second best Korean director is the best foreign film ever. And you have that right, the top 2 were separated by 2 points. 80 points clear of 3rd and 220 points clear of 4th, yet two points between them. I think this highlights the difference between films that are huge among a region's fans and the very rare times that a film truly breaks into every genre of film fan. The top three on this list appeared on votes over and over and over again. So while Parasite only had 2 more top 10 votes than say Akira in 14th, it had more than double the number of votes rated from 11-100th and that adds up to a lot of points. So Korea almost made it to 10 films on this list. (although its 10th best rated film only managed 125th so it wasn't that close. The real list we all care about: 31 - Japan 15 - India 13 - France 9 - South Korea 5 - Sweden 5 - Hong Kong 4 - Germany 4 - Italy 3 - Mexico 2 - Russia (includes USSR) 1 - Poland 1 - China 1 - Denmark 1 - Norway 1 - Indonesia 1 - Brazil 1 - Taiwan 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 101st-200th just for the fun: The Wages of Fear France 97 RRR India 97 The Raid 2 Indonesia 96 Breathless France 96 Battle Royale Japan 95 Good Morning Japan 94 Tumbbad India 94 Incendies Canada 92 Nosferatu Germany 92 pather Panchali India 89 Downfall (Der Untergang) Germany 88 Titane France 86 IP Man Hong Kong 85 Mughal e Azam India 85 Lupin the Third: Castle of Cagliostro Japan 84 Millenium Actress Japan 83 Aguirre The Wrath of God Germany 83 Autumn Sonata Sweden 82 Beauty and the Beast France 82 Only Yesterday Japan 80 Infernal Affairs Hong Kong 80 La Dolce Vita Italy 79 Shoplifters Japan 79 Spring Summer Fall Winter and Spring Korea 79 Quo Vadis, Aida? BCMS 78 The Vanishing netherlands 78 The Rules of the Game France 77 Come and See Russia 76 Three Colours: Red France 74 The Killer Hong Kong 74 Woman of the Dunes Japan 74 I lost my body France 73 Cleo from 5 to 7 France 73 Thirst Korea 73 Run Lola Run Germany 72 Bacurau Brazil 68 The Hidden Fortress Japan 67 Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown Spain 66 Shaolin Soccer Hong Kong 66 Ghost in the Shell Japan 65 Toni Erdmann Germany 65 Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara India 64 Scenes from a marriage France 64 The Hunt Denmark 62 Rififi France 62 House Japan 62 Shoah France 61 The End of Evangelion Japan 60 Black Book netherlands 58 Kuch Kuch Hota Hai India 57 Persepolis France 56 Tokyo Godfathers Japan 55 Man with a Movie Camera Russia 54 Through a Glass Darkly Sweden 52 Chak De India India 52 La Strada Italy 52 The Bad Sleep Well Japan 50 Audition Japan 50 Napoleon France 50 Article 15 India 49 Ong Bak: Muay Thai Warrior Thailand 48 Minari Korea 48 The Celebration Denmark 46 The Devil's Backbone mexico 46 The Man from Nowhere Korea 46 Ivan's Childhood Russia 45 Dragonball Z Broly Japan 45 Rurouni Kenshin 3 The Legend Ends Japan 45 Offside Iran 45 Marriage Italian Style Italy 45 A Woman is a Woman France 45 Demon Slayer Infinity Train Japan 44 Jujutsu Kaisen 0 Japan 44 The Act of killing Denmark 43 Anand India 42 The Conformist Italy 41 Jab We Met India 41 Andrei Rublev Russia 41 La Femme Nikita France 40 Mother India India 40 A Prophet France 40 Daisies Czech 40 Ordet Denmark 40 Peking Opera Blues Hong Kong 40 The Green Ray France 40 Petite Maman France 39 Rurouni Kenshin 2 Kyoto Inferno Japan 39 Rocco and his Brothers Italy 38 blue is the warmest colour France 38 Jeanne Dielman France 37 Perfect Blue Japan 36 The Cranes are flying Russia 36 Queen India 36 Red Beard Japan 36 Eastern Condors Hong Kong 36 Evangelion: 3.0 Japan 36 My Friend Ivan Lapshin Russia 36 Vivre sa Vie France 36 The Way He Looks yes 36 Pain and Glory Spain 35 Iron Monkey Hong Kong 34 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ZeeSoh Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 @chasmmi you missed your previous record by just 1 day! 66 days vs 65 days for this. You couldn't wait 2 more days huh? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Thanks @chasmmi Quick takeaways Spain and Almodovar completely whiff the list first showing up about 35 places outside the top 100 with Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown Panther Pancheli (or any Ray film) and Mughal e Azam miss a top 100 list with 9 Indian films ranking and where 3 Idiots makes it to the top 5 Zang Yimou makes the list with The Hero and nothing else (superior) even makes the top 200 Italy really under performed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, TalismanRing said: Panther Pancheli (or any Ray film) and Mughal e Azam miss a top 100 list with 9 Indian films ranking and where 3 Idiots makes it to the top 5 Ray movies are not exactly accessible to most Indians. They are in Bengali for the most part and are in the arthouse style rather than mainstream. For a Ray movie to make it, it will have to do it completely on the basis of foreign users voting for it. Indian users will go for the more accessible Bollywood or other industries rather than the Bengali industry which is an island unto itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, grim22 said: Ray movies are not exactly accessible to most Indians. They are in Bengali for the most part and are in the arthouse style rather than mainstream. For a Ray movie to make it, it will have to do it completely on the basis of foreign users voting for it. Indian users will go for the more accessible Bollywood or other industries rather than the Bengali industry which is an island unto itself. There's that but I think it might have more to do with age - no Raj Kapoor or Mukherjee etc film ranked either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptNathanBrittles Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I don't want to generalize but all Bollywood movies are completely unwatchable and should be removed from the list. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, CaptNathanBrittles said: I don't want to generalize but all Bollywood movies are completely unwatchable and should be removed from the list. That's nice, now go peddle your hateful bullshit elsewhere while the rest of us enjoy watching Shah Rukh Khan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...