THE LITTLE MERMAID WEEKEND THREAD

[ando]

Utterly depressing thread. 

[Firepower]

1 minute ago, Day and Date The Best said:

MI is an stronger brand than Top Gun. Mi7 could win the summer or the year with 1.5 billion WW.

Ahahahah, no.

[Austin]

1 hour ago, KP1025 said:

 

At least they still have the Minions and now the Nintendo Cinematic Universe. 

And Dreamworks properties like Shrek/PiB/ and KFP which they will probably milk out if Shrek 5 shreks the BO and KFP4 lives up to the rest of the trilogy.

[ListenHunnyUrOver]

I stand by the 2h15m runtime being an issue, as well as the lack of star power.

[jedijake]

14 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

 

 

Does anyone really know why the OS numbers are so bad?

 

We can only speculate...but not here. Lol.

It will be a debate for the ages. 

[Maggie]

5 minutes ago, Firepower said:

Ahahahah, no.

Seriously! What are people smoking? MI:DR is not doubling Fallout's gross.

 

Even these over 300M domestic predictions are out of their mind. It means a maybe  50% increase over Fallout. Not Happening.

Edited May 28, 2023 by Maggie

[YM!]

Though domestically great, the numbers for TLM are underwhelming. I think it’d do about the same if Ariel were white but the DOM/OS turned around, mainly due to the shifting theatrical demographics in the US and TLM wouldn’t have had as big buzz here. 
 

I do think there is an underindexing problem in tracking with Disney but I’m starting to think that’s more due to the Disney Plus and less off right wing outrage or quality. Families more or less know they can wait it out a few months if their kids really want it and with the Plus being second biggest streamer that’s taking away a lot from walkups, and in the few cases of some of the right wing who turned their backs on Disney likely still have Disney Plus for their kids or themselves whilst putting on a bravado of not supporting Disney theatrically.

 

Not sure if Disney can ever shake the Plus thing. Like if they had a few mid-budget films they’d weather it out a bit more, but the only reliable franchise they have left is Avatar. WDAS/Pixar are dead apart from sequels, Marvel is running out of juice (Deadpool is a hit sure but I’m doubting CA4 or Thunderbolts does more than 450m WW, and maybe 550-600m for Marvels), and they have no more remakes to exploit as Stitch is going to the Plus and live action Moana seems less lucrative than Moana 2.

 

A solution could be just putting in far longer periods like a six month window from theatrical to the plus like Sony does with Netflix or Paramount did with TGM but I think the executives and Iger’s greed will be too late to realize it until it’s too late. 

 

 

[Claudio]

24 minutes ago, JpTransformers said:

320 million worldwide for Transformers? Isn't this an underrated prediction given that the film has a wide international market?

Transformers is dead sadly. Only miracle can save it. Sandwiched between ATSV and Flash.

[Day and Date The Best]

You people are complicating yourselfs too much on why is the BO bad. Its not that bad is well....

Edited May 28, 2023 by Day and Date The Best

[THUNDER BIRD]

9 minutes ago, Day and Date The Best said:

You people are understimating if after the extreme goodwill Tom Cruise has right now after Top Gun Maverick, MI7 can not win the summer and MI is an stronger brand than Top Gun. Mi7 could win the summer or the year with 1.5 billion WW.

Tom Cruise has Goodwill - Yes

 

MI7 can win the summer - Yes

 

MI7 will do 1.5 Billion - NO

[Sckathian]

12 minutes ago, Day and Date The Best said:

You people are understimating if after the extreme goodwill Tom Cruise has right now after Top Gun Maverick, MI7 can not win the summer and MI is an stronger brand than Top Gun. Mi7 could win the summer or the year with 1.5 billion WW.

Especially with how everything else is looking this summer. People are going to want that tangible escapism Cruise offers and they are going to remember Top Gun.

[Day and Date The Best]

2 minutes ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

Tom Cruise has Goodwill - Yes

 

MI7 can win the summer - Yes

 

MI7 will do 1.5 Billion - NO

Some people... thought Top Gun Maverick would not reach what it reached so.???? 

[Maggie]

My best case scenario is 100M for the first five days for MI:DR. And shit legs because of loss of PFL

Edited May 28, 2023 by Maggie

[John Marston]

Little Mermaid has a 250m budget and a likely large marketing budget. A financial loss is looking likely. Combine that with the Ant Man flop and Elemental looking like a mega bomb. It’s not a great year for Disney 

[ListenHunnyUrOver]

A big issue is that right-wingers are more homogeneous, and will get behind a boycott of something like this to make a point. The left is less homogeneous as a whole in the US, and even contains people who think a racebent Ariel is a problem. Aside from that, there are also people on the left who don't want to support a corporation like Disney, as well as just people burnt out of remakes, or who only see arthouse movies.

[Valonqar]

4 minutes ago, Day and Date The Best said:

Some people... thought Top Gun Maverick would not reach what it reached so.???? 

 

Difference is that TGM was released 50 years after the first and it works as a standalone. It has enouhg flashbacks and exposition about what happened in the first that you don't have to see it to understand the sequel. OTOH, this is 8th movie MI series and also Part 1 or someshit. And the series isn't standalone like Bond used to be but serialized like last 2 Bonds. 

Edited May 28, 2023 by Valonqar

[Day and Date The Best]

You people are understimating Mission Impossible 7 someone pin the possibly 1.5 billion and win summer or year comment, both or one of those two could happen. 

[Maggie]

I wonder when tickets will go on sale for MI7. Oppenheimer opens shop next week. It could steal MI7's thunder for IMAX

[Godzilla]

4 minutes ago, John Marston said:

Little Mermaid has a 250m budget and a likely large marketing budget. A financial loss is looking likely. Combine that with the Ant Man flop and Elemental looking like a mega bomb. It’s not a great year for Disney 

Indiana Jones might flop as well. 

[grey ghost]

Let's say Disney breaks even with TLM from its WW gross...

 

Doesn't that put them way ahead of a streaming service like Netflix that doesn't have theatrical releases generally?