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Weekend Thread | Transformers $25.6M FRI

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5 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said:

On one hand,  Spiderverse is doing fantastic but on the other hand, I can't help but think that Sat. number is a bit disappointing, I was expecting less than a 50% drop or right around 50% 

 

 

It's still a CBM with heavy competition. 

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29 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:

This weekend was surprisingly healthy and not a trainwreck. Is the BO back to pre-pandemic normal now that there is a consistent flow of enjoyable movies opening in theatres? 

 

Like last year, the summer calendar is when it comes closest to pre-pandemic, as the releases are bigger and help cover up the underlying weakness. June may become only the third post-pandemic $1B domestic month (Dec 2021, July 2022). But there just isn't the overall volume beyond that

 

For example, the 4th highest grossing May release was ... Book Club 2 at $17M. For April it was Margaret at $20M, March was packed, but Feb was Brady at $39M and Jan had Pathaan in 4th at $17.5M

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3 minutes ago, John Marston said:


 

 

we are pretty much  back to normal aren’t we not?

I would say only occasionally.

 

January, February, March and May monthly gross are the lowest in decades. For example, May used to be billion dollar month but May this year only made $770m+, in fact May of 2022 was a bit higher than this year.

 

We are facing the big vacuum of mid-sized hit, those movies that made between $50m-$100m. The lack of mid-sized and surprise sleeper hit normally provide some stability in BO in case big tentpoles flopped but there aren't enough of them now. That is why the overall health of the market is even more in the hand of few tentpoles. 

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Pretty solid weekend across the board between Transformers landing in the tracking area and acceptable drops for the holdovers. Also cool to see Past Lives entering the top 10 in just 26 theaters, specialty hits have been in short supply since the pandemic.

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IC2 comparison still vaguely on point, but it's shifting more and more. Spider-Verse way way stronger hold Thurs and Fri, slightly behind on Sat and slightly ahead on Sun. JW:FK is way stronger competition than ROTB though.

 

Weekday 1 and Weekend 2 holds (From Monday) 

[June 2] Spider-Verse: -58.4%, +15.5%, -26.2%, -8.1%, +64.4%, +26.5%, -17.9%  (vs Transformers: Rise of the Beasts) 
[June 15] Incredibles 2: -55%, +14.5%, -27.1%, -17.2%, +47.8%, +30.2%, -21.1% (vs Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom)

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1 minute ago, JohnnyGossamer said:

With this 55% drop and Flash and Elemental coming next weekend... What's the expectation for AtSV next weekend DOM? 25M to 28M?

That sounds good considering that screens are gonna be split 4 ways

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20 minutes ago, John Marston said:


 

 

we are pretty much  back to normal aren’t we not?

 

The new normal, yes. Not the pre-pandemic normal. Composite monthly ticket sales are running (on average) 20-30% behind the trailing 10 year average prior to 2020. 

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2 minutes ago, XXRptimus Primal said:

 

The new normal, yes. Not the pre-pandemic normal. Composite monthly ticket sales are running (on average) 20-30% behind the trailing 10 year average prior to 2020. 

 

 

yes but that is probably due to lack of appealing product 

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17 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

I would say only occasionally.

 

January, February, March and May monthly gross are the lowest in decades. For example, May used to be billion dollar month but May this year only made $770m+, in fact May of 2022 was a bit higher than this year.

 

We are facing the big vacuum of mid-sized hit, those movies that made between $50m-$100m. The lack of mid-sized and surprise sleeper hit normally provide some stability in BO in case big tentpoles flopped but there aren't enough of them now. That is why the overall health of the market is even more in the hand of few tentpoles. 

 

There are way fewer releases as well.

 

1ST QUARTER

2023 / 185

2019 / 302

2018 / 321

2017 / 281

2016 / 263

2015 / 287

 

2ND QUARTER

2023 / 169 (so far)

2019 / 368

2018 / 370

2017 / 312

2016 / 318

2015 / 307

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Funny coincidence I noticed. The last Transformers movie (Bumblebee) opened 1 week after the last Spiderverse movie. And now another Transformers movie is opening 1 week after the next Spiderverse movie. If you want to get really technical... what other movies were released in those weeks? A DC property and a big Disney live-action directed by Rob Marshall. 

 

The release schedule simply repeats itself, it just disguises itself in a slightly different skin. 

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