The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[Hilts]

23 hours ago, Hilts said:

 

Napoleon							OK
Tuesday - showings starting 3pm						ATP	$14.03*
Day	Theatres	Showings	Daily Sold	Total Sold	Total Seats	% Sold	Growth
T-8	19	56	41	207	9,976	2.07%	24.70%
T-7	19	56	23	230	9,976	2.31%	11.11%
T-6	19	59	29	259	10,828	2.39%	12.61%
T-5	19	62	25	284	10,990	2.58%	9.65%
T-4	19	65	61	345	11,677	2.95%	21.48%
MTC1	8	25	+29	128	4,621	2.77%	29.29%
MTC2	3	12	+4	32	1,874	1.71%	14.29%
MTC3	3	16	+22	129	3,814	3.38%	20.56%
Other	5	12	+6	56	1,368	4.09%	12.00%
Comps
Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One					0.485x	=	$3.40m
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem					1.202x	=	$4.63m
Oppenheimer					0.157x	=	$1.65m
The Creator					2.396x	=	$3.23m

 

*only considers Discount Tue across some (not all) theatres and so is largely irrelevant and incalculable.

 

Matinee: 15.65%

PLF: 37.97%

 

Good day. PLF share slowly rising as I've noticed this is gaining more IMAX/Dolby showings the last few days.

 

Napoleon							OK
Tuesday - showings starting 3pm						ATP	$14.10*
Day	Theatres	Showings	Daily Sold	Total Sold	Total Seats	% Sold	Growth
T-7	19	56	23	230	9,976	2.31%	11.11%
T-6	19	59	29	259	10,828	2.39%	12.61%
T-5	19	62	25	284	10,990	2.58%	9.65%
T-4	19	65	61	345	11,677	2.95%	21.48%
T-3	19	68	57	402	12,783	3.14%	16.52%
MTC1	8	25	+18	146	4,621	3.16%	14.06%
MTC2	3	14	+8	40	2,398	1.67%	25.00%
MTC3	3	16	+29	158	3,814	4.14%	22.48%
Other	5	13	+2	58	1,950	2.97%	3.57%
Comps
Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One					0.507x	=	$3.55m
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem					1.189x	=	$4.58m
Oppenheimer					0.159x	=	$1.67m
The Creator					2.173x	=	$2.93m

 

*only considers Discount Tue across some (not all) theatres and so is largely irrelevant and incalculable.

 

Matinee: 15.42%

PLF: 40.55%

[Relevation]

43 minutes ago, Hilts said:

 

The Color Purple							OK
Monday						ATP	$10.45
Day	Theatres	Showings	Daily Sold	Total Sold	Total Seats	% Sold	Growth
T-41	16	69	0	242	8,357	2.90%	0.00%
T-40	16	69	0	242	8,357	2.90%	0.00%
T-39	17	73	18	260	8,583	3.03%	7.44%
T-38	17	73	16	276	8,583	3.22%	6.15%
T-37	17	72	7	283	8,319	3.40%	2.54%
MTC1	7	27	+4	81	2,354	3.44%	5.19%
MTC2	4	19	0	129	2,808	4.59%	0.00%
MTC3	3	13	+3	60	1,714	3.50%	5.26%
Other	3	13	0	13	1,443	0.90%	0.00%

 

Definitely picked up the last few days I assume when the reactions came out.

 

 

23.6x the T-37 total of Wish and more tickets sold than Napoleon at T-6

 

$30M+ opening week in the cards?

Edited November 18, 2023 by Relevation

[Hilts]

23 hours ago, Hilts said:

 

Wish							OK
Saturday - 4pm - Early Access Screening						ATP	$10.23
Day	Theatres	Showings	Daily Sold	Total Sold	Total Seats	% Sold	Growth
T-5	6	6	4	64	813	7.87%	6.67%
T-4	6	6	13	77	813	9.47%	20.31%
T-3	6	6	9	86	813	10.58%	11.69%
T-2	6	6	26	112	813	13.78%	30.23%
T-1	6	6	27	139	813	17.10%	24.11%
MTC1	2	2	+4	57	230	24.78%	7.55%
MTC2	2	2	+6	24	224	10.71%	33.33%
MTC3	2	2	+17	58	359	16.16%	41.46%

 

Tuesday - showings starting 3pm						ATP	$11.17**
Day	Theatres	Showings	Daily Sold	Total Sold	Total Seats	% Sold	Growth
T-8	24	104	10	98	15,088	0.65%	11.36%
T-7	24	103	12	110	14,951	0.74%	12.24%
T-6	24	107	9	119	15,516	0.77%	8.18%
T-5	24	108	47	166	15,688	1.06%	39.50%
T-4	24	108	20	186	15,688	1.19%	12.05%
MTC1	7	32	+8	86	4,535	1.90%	10.26%
MTC2	4	23	0	47	3,687	1.27%	0.00%
MTC3	3	15	+12	21	2,762	0.76%	133.33%
Other	10	38	0	32	4,704	0.68%	0.00%
Comps						Raw	ATP adj*
Haunted Mansion				0.802x	=	$2.49m	$1.86m
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: MM				0.648x	=	$2.50m
Trolls Band Together				1.185x	=	$1.54m

 

*75%

**only considers Discount Tue across some (not all) theatres and so is largely irrelevant and incalculable.

 

Matinee: 36.02%

3D: 18.82%

 

Forgot to add the group purchase (it was for a standard showing) into the splits yesterday which is why 3D split has taken a hit today.

 

EA is at 27% of Trolls at T-1 and Trolls EA growth was 41% that day.

 

I will try to pull a Wednesday number again tomorrow to see if that indicates much more progress.

 

Wish							OK
Saturday - 4pm - Early Access Screening						ATP	$10.23
Day	Theatres	Showings	Daily Sold	Total Sold	Total Seats	% Sold	Growth
T-4	6	6	13	77	813	9.47%	20.31%
T-3	6	6	9	86	813	10.58%	11.69%
T-2	6	6	26	112	813	13.78%	30.23%
T-1	6	6	27	139	813	17.10%	24.11%
T-0	6	7	126	265	996	26.61%	90.65%
MTC1	2	3	+47	104	413	25.18%	82.46%
MTC2	2	2	+27	51	224	22.77%	112.50%
MTC3	2	2	+52	110	359	30.64%	89.66%
Tuesday - showings starting 3pm						ATP	$11.51**
Day	Theatres	Showings	Daily Sold	Total Sold	Total Seats	% Sold	Growth
T-7	24	103	12	110	14,951	0.74%	12.24%
T-6	24	107	9	119	15,516	0.77%	8.18%
T-5	24	108	47	166	15,688	1.06%	39.50%
T-4	24	108	20	186	15,688	1.19%	12.05%
T-3	24	112	50	236	16,956	1.39%	26.88%
MTC1	7	32	+15	101	4,535	2.23%	17.44%
MTC2	4	25	+4	51	4,131	1.23%	8.51%
MTC3	3	15	0	21	2,762	0.76%	0.00%
Other	10	40	+31	63	5,528	1.14%	96.88%
Comps						Raw	ATP adj*
Haunted Mansion				0.817x	=	$2.53m	$1.90m
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: MM				0.698x	=	$2.69m
Trolls Band Together				1.198x	=	$1.56m

 

*75%

**only considers Discount Tue across some (not all) theatres and so is largely irrelevant and incalculable.

 

Matinee: 26.69%

3D: 15.25%

 

An extra EA showing added at the last minute which is positive. Trolls EA final day growth was 70% but was over 3 times the total sales in the end.

 

Spot check of Wednesday was 417 tickets sold so 177% of Tues (previously 125 sold and 147%).

[HummingLemon496]

In roughly 50 hours we'll get the presale data for Aquaman. 

 

I'm hyped AF

Edited November 18, 2023 by HummingLemon496

[Hilts]

5 minutes ago, Relevation said:

 

23.6x the T-37 total of Wish and more tickets sold than Napoleon at T-6

 

$30M+ opening week in the cards?

 

I'll leave the projecting to you, I think T-37 was only after 2 days of sales, but it has sold more than Wish at T-3 😉

 

But yeah potentially Greatest Showman / Hidden Figures / Little Women type run, who knows at this point! We need something of this ilk to do well and not another West Side Story situation (pandemic impact not withstanding).

[keysersoze123]

Wish early shows

MTC1 - 12732/22709 139493.48 195 shows

MTC2 - 7169/17534 86029.75 146 shows

 

Thinking around 400K from these early shows. Less than half of Trolls early shows. 

[Firepower]

27 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Wish early shows

MTC1 - 12732/22709 139493.48 195 shows

MTC2 - 7169/17534 86029.75 146 shows

 

Thinking around 400K from these early shows. Less than half of Trolls early shows. 

Napoleon?

[Grand Cine]

34 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Wish early shows

MTC1 - 12732/22709 139493.48 195 shows

MTC2 - 7169/17534 86029.75 146 shows

 

Thinking around 400K from these early shows. Less than half of Trolls early shows. 

It's not good but the real test is clearly Tuesday

[keysersoze123]

10 minutes ago, Firepower said:

Napoleon?

Did Napolean have early shows today. I did not track?

[Grand Cine]

10 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Did Napolean have early shows today. I did not track?

Nope just previews Tuesday

[YM!]

1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

Wish early shows

MTC1 - 12732/22709 139493.48 195 shows

MTC2 - 7169/17534 86029.75 146 shows

 

Thinking around 400K from these early shows. Less than half of Trolls early shows. 

In fairness, it had just over half of Trolls showing for EA. How's the rest of the week looking?

Edited November 18, 2023 by YM!

[Firepower]

30 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Did Napolean have early shows today. I did not track?

Oh, I thought there are some numbers for it as well

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/17/2023 at 6:43 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WONKA

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-27

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
193	596	35938	1.7%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

46

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-27

 

(0.376x) of Indy 5 $2.70M Previews

(0.387x) of TLM $3.99M Previews

Comps AVG: $3.35M

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WONKA

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-26

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
193	636	35938	1.8%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

40

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-26

 

(0.395x) of Indy 5 $2.84M Previews

(0.367x) of TLM $3.78M Previews

Comps AVG: $3.31M

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/17/2023 at 6:41 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

GODZILLA MINUS ONE

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-13

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
104	220	21183	1.0%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

1

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-13

 

(0.477x) of Exorcist $1.36M Previews

(0.087x) of FNAF $897k Previews

Comps AVG: $1.13M

 

EA sales *separate from Thursdays previews listed above*

534 seats sold over 20 showings 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

GODZILLA MINUS ONE

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-12

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
104	234	21183	1.1%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

14

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-12

 

(0.467x) of Exorcist $1.33M Previews

(0.645x) of The Creator $870k Previews

Comps AVG: $1.10M

 

EA sales *separate from Thursdays previews listed above*

552 seats sold over 20 showings 

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/17/2023 at 6:35 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

NAPOLEON

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-4

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
164	531	31553	1.7%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

46

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-4

 

(0.287x) of Mi7 $2.01M

(0.515x) of TMNT $1.98M

Comps AVG: $1.99M

 

(0.793x) of KoTFM $2.06M Previews *ATP not adjusted for discount Tuesday* 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

NAPOLEON

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-3

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
164	579	31553	1.8%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

48

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-3

 

(0.295x) of Mi7 $2.07M

(0.519x) of TMNT $2.00M

Comps AVG: $2.04M

 

(0.806x) of KoTFM $2.10M Previews *ATP not adjusted for discount Tuesday* 

 

Slightly increasing against comps for the past few days which is a good sign. 

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/17/2023 at 6:39 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WISH

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-4

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
184	1101	34057	3.2%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

148

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-4

 

(1.363x) of Elemental $3.27M Previews 

(2.603x) of Trolls 3 $3.38M Previews 

AVG Adjusted down 30% for ATP

$2.33M Previews 

 

*Saturday EA* separate from previews 

492 seats sold over 10 showings 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WISH

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-3

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
184	1118	34057	3.3%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

17

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-3

 

(1.248x) of Elemental $2.99M Previews 

(2.452x) of Trolls 3 $3.19M Previews 

AVG Adjusted down 30% for ATP

$2.16M Previews 

 

Shockingly bad growth. Could be a showings missing, or blocked seats or maybe lukewarm reviews are sinking it...

[Porthos]

FWIW, Wish did very well on EA showings today in Sacramento.

 

Sacramento Wish EA ONLY 634/1060 (59.81% sold) [+245 tickets]

 

0.33194x Elemental Total Previews [797k]

 

Now probably not a great idea to try to comp this against a full preview, since different markets will have different capacity issues (though on the other hand, won't have matinee pricing rearing its head, either).  But all I can say is that Sacramento showed up today for Sat showings.
 

(no I haven't checked Tue showings yet)

((yes, this will be part of the report tonight))

 

 

Edited November 19, 2023 by Porthos

[el sid]

1 hour ago, Firepower said:

Napoleon?

 I think you're no liberal (no offense ^^).

This place is great when it comes to tracking, reviews, reviews before a film is even released, Hollywood infos in general...but in recent years we are sometimes out of touch with the normal population. Some films are hyped, other are overlooked at all.

So...what do think about Napoleon's chances in America? Is Napoleon a thing or not (given it took place centuries ago and in Europe)? And do you think that the only decent reviews hurt or are history fans immune? 

[Relevation]

13 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:

Shockingly bad growth. Could be a showings missing, or blocked seats or maybe lukewarm reviews are sinking it...

It’s probably the EA presence today that’s siphoning sales off TUE. Wouldn’t expect it to be the reviews since yesterday had strong growth. I expect a rebound 100+ tickets sold day tomorrow.

[Bobzaruni]

6 minutes ago, el sid said:

 I think you're no liberal (no offense ^^).

This place is great when it comes to tracking, reviews, reviews before a film is even released, Hollywood infos in general...but in recent years we are sometimes out of touch with the normal population. Some films are hyped, other are overlooked at all.

So...what do think about Napoleon's chances in America? Is Napoleon a thing or not (given it took place centuries ago and in Europe)? And do you think that the only decent reviews hurt or are history fans immune? 

What? They're just asking for early numbers why are you yapping?