YM! Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Tbh if it weren’t for the fact it was turned into a movie right after Wish flopped (tbh even a more TS2 like approach and it became a movie about 18-24 months to release vs O/U 11 months) and LMM returned, I’d say it’d pull a Shrek 2/Across the SpiderVerse and double its predecessor, taking the number two spot of the year. Even though I think reception will be more similar to Wish/Frozen II CS/Audience wise, kids shouldn’t care and should at least be good for 300/800. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 I think we're all agreed that Moana 2 will be a success. Just how big though? I agree that streaming is a good sign for it, but it's not everything. Inside Out was never the monster Moana is on streaming but look at Inside Out 2. This is just to say that I might have a baseline expectation of $400m dom for Moana 2. We'll see how it goes. Below is Nielsen's 2020 streaming movies stats. This might indicate that Inside Out 2 might get to 10 billion minutes this year, considering it will be on streaming in September, just comparing to Frozen 2... but more importantly this list doesn't feature Inside Out. Does feature Moana near the top, like it is nearly every year though. TOP STREAMING CONTENT OF 2020 - MOVIES Rank Program Name SVOD Provider(s) # of Episodes Minutes Streamed (Nearest Million) 1 FROZEN II Disney+ 1 14,924 2 MOANA Disney+ 1 10,507 3 SECRET LIFE OF PETS 2 Netflix 1 9,123 4 ONWARD Disney+ 1 8,367 5 DR SEUSS' THE GRINCH Netflix 1 6,180 6 HAMILTON Disney+ 1 6,132 7 SPENSER CONFIDENTIAL Netflix 1 5,374 8 ALADDIN (2019) Disney+ 1 5,172 9 TOY STORY 4 Disney+ 1 4,416 10 ZOOTOPIA Disney+ 1 4,400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroHour Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Moana 2 is going to be big, but it does have some things working against it that will probably keep it from reaching the heights of IO2. I'm less concerned about it's origins as a streaming show because it was greenlit as a show at a time when D+ was lavishing giant budgets and resources to its big shows. The bigger concern is that quality control at WDAS under Jennifer Lee has gone out the window. This also won't get two weeks of PLFs to itself like IO2 did and it will have more competition throughout the holiday season compared to IO2. International is also a question mark. The giant streaming numbers tell us that Moana is huge domestically, but don't give us any indication of how big this property is now overseas. It's possible the sequel plays more domestic heavy compared to IO2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potiki Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 8 hours ago, ZeroHour said: The giant streaming numbers tell us that Moana is huge domestically, but don't give us any indication of how big this property is now overseas. It is the most streamed movie on Disney+ worldwide, regularly is the top movie in most international markets. Right now Inside Out is having a resurgence for obvious reasons and I imagine will appear on Nielsen domestically in the coming weeks as well. That said Moana is still easily the top trending film worldwide on Disney+ this year with 56k, Elemental is 2 with 47k, Encanto 3 with 27k and Inside Out is 7 with 18k (should move into the top 5, maybe top 3 with how it has been going it is number 1 this month so far with 11k) Here is a link to the Flixpatrol Disney page: https://flixpatrol.com/top10/disney/ Also this is a great display of the synergy between theatrical and streaming and why franchises/sequels are much safer bets for Disney, gets the older titles more viewership again which in turn is free advertising for the theatrical product and vice versa. Same happens when Live Action remakes come out the older animated titles get a boost has happened with TLM, Peter Pan, 101 Dalmatians, Mulan etc. in the last few years. @Porthos have to steal your meme ❤️ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 1 minute ago, Potiki said: It is the most streamed movie on Disney+ worldwide, regularly is the top movie in most international markets. Right now Inside Out is having a resurgence for obvious reasons and I imagine will appear on Nielsen domestically in the coming weeks as well. That said Moana is still easily the top trending film worldwide on Disney+ this year with 56k, Elemental is 2 with 47k, Encanto 3 with 27k and Inside Out is 7 with 18k (should move into the top 5, maybe top 3 with how it has been going it is number 1 this month so far with 11k) Here is a link to the Flixpatrol Disney page: https://flixpatrol.com/top10/disney/ Also this is a great display of the synergy between theatrical and streaming and why franchises/sequels are much safer bets for Disney, gets the older titles more viewership again which in turn is free advertising for the theatrical product and vice versa. Same happens when Live Action remakes come out the older animated titles get a boost has happened with TLM, Peter Pan, 101 Dalmatians, Mulan etc. in the last few years. @Porthos have to steal your meme ❤️ wait The First Slam Dunk is on Disney+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potiki Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, cannastop said: wait The First Slam Dunk is on Disney+? It is in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea. Disney also bought rights to The Roundup films in Korea and they did great also, also they have a bunch of licensed anime in Japan as well. They for sure have a different strategy in Asia, they also license shows and movies in Europe but not to the extent that they do in Japan/Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Yeah Moana is a streaming titan for Disney, there's a lot they can capitalize on for a sequel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HummingLemon496 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) If it's as good (which it probably won't be because it's a Disney+ show turned into a movie) then it's doing $475M+ DOM Edited July 18 by HummingLemon496 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaster506 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 This is going to kill it. Disney is starting to return to form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 With how much Olympic adspace Disney is buying up for this, it better be a huge hit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grand Cine Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Maybe a trailer this weekend with D23 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNF2187 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 On 8/7/2024 at 3:42 PM, Grand Cine said: Maybe a trailer this weekend with D23 ? Disney doesn't usually do public trailer reveals (especially not for animation) at D23 so I'd say it's probably unlikely. The Olympics ads were just that, and they had Moana ads for the 2016 Olympics as well. The typical Thanksgiving animation timeline means we'll probably get another trailer in the second half of September, probably in time for Transformers One and/or The Wild Robot. We'll probably see a final trailer just after the elections. Tickets will likely go on sale in late October, and reviews are probably gonna show up on November 25. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 On 8/7/2024 at 2:42 PM, Grand Cine said: Maybe a trailer this weekend with D23 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnumbers Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 To note that there's a Moana 2 solo panel on Saturday. So we could see a trailer for that left for Saturday. In fact, there's a lot of solo panels through Saturday and Sunday that really could allow for some big surprises on today's panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Selma Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 The trailer looks cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emoviefan Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Yeah this is going to be humongous. Disney going to have the Top 3 movies of the Year DOM. Let's just forget 2023 ever happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...