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1 hour ago, Eric the Clown said:

Very curious how that pitch went. Was Pharrell just bored? Did Lego need a celebrity endorsement? The math ain’t mathing

Universal picked up the rights to make LEGO movies until 2025 but hadn't released any until now. Piece by Piece was a (cheap) way for them to start fulfilling the contract.

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Also, I really hope Piece by Piece ends up being the only Lego movie to ever be released by Universal. Because frankly, the only result coming out of all the money and all the time spent on the license being a fucking Pharrell biopic full of a bunch of musician cameos is too hilarious of an outcome to pass up.

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Joker is really One of the worst flop ever. Yeah there are a lot of worst flops in terms of financial investment but most of them are movies you couldn't be sure about the success...here the shock is because of the money made but also because of the expectations. The mix of the two things makes It historical. 

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25 minutes ago, WebSurfer said:


Big international drop as well…

 

Thats a 74% drop from last weekend (the drop excludes Japan's number which opened this weekend). Marginally better than the DOM drop though I do wonder if WB is overestimating the numbers again like last week.

 

The Marvels made 19.5 in its 2nd weekend internationally which was a drop of 69.2%. Joker has made 20.15m for a 74% drop.

The Marvels stood at 161.3m WW after its 2nd weekend whereas Joker 2 is at 165.3m (estimated).

 

One advantage Joker 2 has is that it is still to open in China. So even though it is dropping worse than The Marvels domestically and internationally it still can cross 200m due to China

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The wild robot started so good in Continental Europe. #1 the weekend in france, Spain, Italy.

 

Fun fact: in 4 days in Italy It already  outgrossed Twisters total. Damn that movie was really more local than Garth Brooks. 

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6 minutes ago, Liiviig 1998 said:

If you told me 2 months ago that joker FD second weekend would  barely match Beetlejuice 6th weekend . Absolute insanity.

 

Though bettle juice  would do 225-250m at best and had joker 2 at 400m+.

 

Beetlejuice is going to make roughly 6x Joker domestic take.

 

Post COVID market has been quite ruthless to movies with toxic wom.

 

If this came out like in 2021/2022 it wouldnt have done this bad. 

Bettlejuice is doing what I thought Joker 2 would be doing and vice versa. The countless reel and content online has fill up leisure time. People has become more selective of how they spend their time. WOM alone can't help the movie. White Birds got A+ cinemascore but still go ahead and drop 50%.

 

Movie nowadays first and foremost, has to create FOMO effect to draw crowd.  

 

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3 hours ago, Mickiland16 said:

It nice to see how it continues the first movie legacy of breaking records 

Speaking of records,

 

This is

- The worst 2nd weekend drop for a CBM

- The worst 2nd weekend drop for a big budget blockbuster

- The worst 2nd weekend drop for a movie that opened at #1 in its 1st weekend

- The worst 2nd weekend drop for a movie playing wide in 3000 theatres or more

 

Going by the estimates, it currently ranks 20th in terms of worst 2nd weekend drop but 16th if we exclude re-releases and special releases

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7 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

Speaking of records,

 

This is

- The worst 2nd weekend drop for a CBM

- The worst 2nd weekend drop for a big budget blockbuster

- The worst 2nd weekend drop for a movie that opened at #1 in its 1st weekend

- The worst 2nd weekend drop for a playing wide in 3000 theatres or more

 

Going by the estimates, it currently ranks 20th in terms of worst 2nd weekend drop but 16th if we exclude re-releases and special releases

Wait I just realized, did The Marvels hold all those records or was there something in the middle? 

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2 hours ago, JonathanMB said:

 

 

Its per-theater-average is nearly flat with last weekend, and still higher than its opening weekend. Is this making a run for $15M+ domestic?!

 

Does MUBI has no power to expand theater count? It is really not a crowded market and its PTA is still higher than OW. Should warrant 1000+ locations at least.

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23 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

The wild robot started so good in Continental Europe. #1 the weekend in france, Spain, Italy.

 

Fun fact: in 4 days in Italy It already  outgrossed Twisters total. Damn that movie was really more local than Garth Brooks. 

It releases in the UK this upcoming week.

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6 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

 

Does MUBI has no power to expand theater count? It is really not a crowded market and its PTA is still higher than OW. Should warrant 1000+ locations at least.

 

A movie needs like a 3000 PTA to really compel more theaters to pick it up. It's having good holds but it's not selling anywhere out.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:

Why did Friday the 13th drop so hard in 2009? Was WOM genuinely that bad?

It released on Friday the 13th so obviously had a huge rush to see it on that day. It's 2nd day was Valentine's day which also helped prop up its first weekend. These 2 factors alone would have ensured a big 2nd weekend drop. Add in the fact that it was a horror movie with terrible critics reviews and audience reception and it was bound to have an epic 2nd weekend drop

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9 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

 

Does MUBI has no power to expand theater count? It is really not a crowded market and its PTA is still higher than OW. Should warrant 1000+ locations at least.

The Substance started in nearly 2,000 theaters on its OW. The per theater average has improved since it went down to less than 700 theaters. It's feminist body horror and probably plays better in some locations than others.

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10 minutes ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:

Why did Friday the 13th drop so hard in 2009? Was WOM genuinely that bad?

 

1 minute ago, ZeeSoh said:

It released on Friday the 13th so obviously had a huge rush to see it on that day. It's 2nd day was Valentine's day which also helped prop up its first weekend. These 2 factors alone would have ensured a big 2nd weekend drop. Add in the fact that it was a horror movie with terrible critics reviews and audience reception and it was bound to have an epic 2nd weekend drop


This answers it, but I’d argue audience reception wasn’t terrible, it got a B-. 
 

The opening Sunday was also inflated by a holiday Monday. 
 

(it’s the best film in the franchise, IMO). 

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