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[mfantin65]

Someone post the bom page. Im clueless on doing that. Its old school. You may not see that again for a long time.When does screen daily report?

Edited May 15, 2014 by T E Lawrence

[rhfqkddl45]

Thursday 5/15 Admissions (4 Cinemas Total)

 

         m       t       w       t    

Wk-10..23281---19430---58165---20158--

 

 

 

*Toho   (2:30pm - 10:00pm)  

wk-6.......3642---------10016 (x2.75)

wk-7.......3828---------10596 (x2.76)

wk-9.......4430---------11400 (x2.57)

Today......5250---------11528 (x2.19)

 

*109 (2:20pm - 09:55pm)

wk-6........904----2185 (x2.417)

wk-7........963----2397 (x2.49)

wk-9.......1089----2575 (x2.36)

Today......1290----2426 (x1.88)

 

*Movix (2:15pm - 11:00pm )

wk-9........1490-----4156 (x2.78)

Today.......1641-----3821 (x2.32)

 

*Kinezo (2:25pm - 00:25am)

wk-6........963------2287 (x2.37)

wk-7........925------2617 (x2.83)

wk-9........933------2442 (x2.617)

Today.......1143-----2383 (x2.08)

 

 

*blue = today admission

 

 

*Total estimate -- 17.52b yen 

Edited May 15, 2014 by Hans13

[mfantin65]

I agree that $164.4M is very low and cannot be explained by the exchange rates. Subers said that he couldn't be bothered to update the estimated overall OS number with the actual (i.e. change $790.3M to $792.something), since it doesn't change its overseas rank anyway (and since it will be updated next weekend). He also said that the difference between $164.4 and $167 is due to exchange rates, but as I said I don't think that is the case. It is, as you said, an estimate-actual problem and Disney hasn't provided an actual.However, the Japan page at BOM (updated on Wednesdays), only provides the actual in yen (17.00 billion yen, which is lower than the reported 17.08 billion yen that is mentioned in this forum). The number in dollars ($166.95M) is not an accurate actual, though, as I've already explained.This raises the question of which "actual" number is the most accurate. 17.00 billion yen or 17.08 billion yen?

Now I understand why some of weekly cums drop some weeks for foreign movies. The currency takes a hit and he just puts that rate in for a total even though it lower than the previous weeks cum. Thats just plain stupid. Why even bother. Its so simple to see tge foriegn totals difference from one week to another and come up w a new total.Avatar JapanMar 21 $1,831,944 -20.3% $164,916,593Mar 28 $1,361,675 -25.7% $160,427,652April 4 $1,018,311 -25.2% $162,664,539Yen..........J...........F...........M..........A..........M2010....91.26....90.28....90.56...93.43....91.79The dollar strengthened at the end of march into the beginning of april and this dumbass puts in 160m when the prior week is 164m. He is beyond retarded. An eight year old forrest gump would know better. He is either related to the owner or getting banged by him. Im gonna blast him again. Everyone write the useless fucktard please. Such blatant disregard is unconcsionable in the statistics world.rsubers@boxofficemojo.com Edited May 15, 2014 by T E Lawrence

[mfantin65]

On a good note: the yen is testing 101.50 again, a key support level lately. If it breaks we could see a quick 3-5% move. That would bump 7m weekend 200-350k. Subers will foolishly add up to 8.5m to total run. My goodness.EditAssuming 17.08be is correct the yen has been close to 102.10 -.20 most of the run. Over 103 briefly and under 102 but always snapping back within a few .01s most of the time. That brings it closevto 167.4 that some reported.. It just broke below 101.50 !

Edited May 15, 2014 by T E Lawrence

[Cynosure]

I understand the dollar total is important for Frozen to beat IM3 worldwide and become the #1 film of 2013 but really at the end of the day, it's the yen total that matters imo.

 

And yes, changing the dollar total almost every week because of evolutions in the exchange rate is completely idiotic.

Edited May 15, 2014 by Cynosure

[mfantin65]

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I understand the dollar total is important for Frozen to beat IM3 worldwide and become the #1 film of 2013 but really at the end of the day, it's the yen total that matters imo. And yes, changing the dollar total almost every week because of evolutions in the exchange rate is completely idiotic.

I agree. We're tracking all three targets, dollars, yen and admissions. Just be fun to see the dollars pop even further. Thats what is looked at mostly in the end and HP7.2 could come into play.*I also now see why SA is 230 on BOM instead of 244m. The dollar rose just before his reported weeks thereby losing 14m from the beginning of the run. Edited May 15, 2014 by T E Lawrence

[Incarnadine]

Now I understand why some of weekly cums drop some weeks for foreign movies. The currency takes a hit and he just puts that rate in for a total even though it lower than the previous weeks cum. Thats just plain stupid. Why even bother. Its so simple to see tge foriegn totals difference from one week to another and come up w a new total.Avatar JapanMar 21 $1,831,944 -20.3% $164,916,593Mar 28 $1,361,675 -25.7% $160,427,652April 4 $1,018,311 -25.2% $162,664,539Yen..........J...........F...........M..........A..........M2010....91.26....90.28....90.56...93.43....91.79The dollar strengthened at the end of march into the beginning of april and this dumbass puts in 160m when the prior week is 164m. He is beyond retarded. An eight year old forrest gump would know better. He is either related to the owner or getting banged by him. Im gonna blast him again. Everyone write the useless fucktard please. Such blatant disregard is unconcsionable in the statistics world.rsubers@boxofficemojo.com

 

I was just looking at the foreign grosses for Frozen and noticed the same thing at the end of the run for the Czech Republic, it went down the last 2 weeks there. I guess it should have ended there 2 weeks earlier.

 

Czech Republic

 

March 13-16 $10,798 ($1,570,846)

 

March 20-23 $5,222 ($1,558,730)

 

March 27-30 $2,860 ($1,558,657)

Edited May 15, 2014 by Incarnadine

[Quigley]

so your admitting that 143m reported 10 days ago is off due to subers exchange expertise.

 

I have insufficient data to decide whether that was off or not. But according to a post in this thread, the $144.4M total that was estimated here in the forum was $1.1M more than the actual (I can't be bothered to find that post but it's in pages 180-182 I think). So maybe the $143.2M was actually accurate. Last week, though, $164.4M was definitely low. However, moving on to this week, indeed, these numbers are very encouraging. Let's hope it drops less than 10% this weekend (imo very likely).

[Quigley]

Now I understand why some of weekly cums drop some weeks for foreign movies. The currency takes a hit and he just puts that rate in for a total even though it lower than the previous weeks cum. Thats just plain stupid. Why even bother. Its so simple to see tge foriegn totals difference from one week to another and come up w a new total.Avatar JapanMar 21 $1,831,944 -20.3% $164,916,593Mar 28 $1,361,675 -25.7% $160,427,652April 4 $1,018,311 -25.2% $162,664,539Yen..........J...........F...........M..........A..........M2010....91.26....90.28....90.56...93.43....91.79The dollar strengthened at the end of march into the beginning of april and this dumbass puts in 160m when the prior week is 164m. He is beyond retarded. An eight year old forrest gump would know better. He is either related to the owner or getting banged by him. Im gonna blast him again. Everyone write the useless fucktard please. Such blatant disregard is unconcsionable in the statistics world.rsubers@boxofficemojo.com

 

The thing is, he claims these issues (regarding exchange rates) are minutiae that he doesn't have time to address.

 

And since it's a private-owned website, fair enough, he can do whatever he and the owners want.

 

What I'm bothered by is the fact that he claims the website is accurate and comprehensible. Clearly that is far from the truth. And by the way, if you're on Twitter, don't say that to him cuz he'll block you. As previously said, beyond retarded.

[Quigley]

I was just looking at the foreign grosses for Frozen and noticed the same thing at the end of the run for the Czech Republic, it went down the last 2 weeks there. I guess it should have ended there 2 weeks earlier.

 

Czech Republic

 

March 13-16 $10,798 ($1,570,846)

 

March 20-23 $5,222 ($1,558,730)

 

March 27-30 $2,860 ($1,558,657)

 

Regarding this issue of decreases, sometimes it is due to exchange rates but sometimes he posts decreases even in the national currency, so I have no clue what is going on. He or his sources might count backwards sometimes, idk.

 

e.g.

Toy Story 3 in Japan

Total as of September 18–19, 2010: ¥10,791,686,065

Total as of September 25–26, 2010: ¥10,659,750,457

 

If any of you have any other explanation besides Subers's utter retardation, please enlighten me.

[juni78ukr]

Here is the most outrageous example

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&country=BR&id=rio.htm

 

They stopped tracking Rio in Brazil at almost $43 mln in June of 2011

19 months after that it reappeared in Brazil box office charts with 33.55 mln

$10 mln disappeared thanks to exchange rates.

[Incarnadine]

Here is the most outrageous example

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&country=BR&id=rio.htm

 

They stopped tracking Rio in Brazil at almost $43 mln in June of 2011

19 months after that it reappeared in Brazil box office charts with 33.55 mln

$10 mln disappeared thanks to exchange rates.

Wow, that's so bad it's actually pretty funny.

 

I don't get why it's so hard to do proper updates overseas. They update once a week, so every week all they have to do is convert that weeks total to $ using the current exchange rate and add it to the previous total, which should also have been done each week using the exchange rate at the time. Every week would be fairly accurate and the total would accurately reflect the exchange rate through a movies run, even if there were big changes over part of it..

Simple addition, add the latest weekly total using the current exchange rate to the previous cumulative total, just keep doing that each week. and ridiculous things like negative weekly totals wouldn't happen.

[mfantin65]

mfantin .............314.800. 18 weekend multiplier after huge GW takes out HP7.2!!Boxx93..............260Kingslayer..........250Chucky ..............240Omni .................225Song of Iceroll. .222Ray.....................215Spizzer...............215Edroger..............210Queen Elsa........210Ball Lightning.....210Incaradine..........207Rsyu...................205Tong Kosong......203Murgatroyd.........200Keysersoze.........200rhfqkddl45........ .195DamienRoc.........193,435,058Catlover..............190Olive Max...........188.4Chasmmi............187Cynosure ...........185Ray subers.........175 "200 is absurd" email him, let'm know whatya think.rsubers@boxofficemojo.com careful, he's easily threatened :ph34r:corpse ...............170 "and will never break 244"Labas.................170‏@giteshpandya ..150Lab276 ..............147anyone else? Predictions due 90m before sat 1430 toho(12am ny). Saturday enters phase two w GW, 3d and sing-alongWinner is closest dollar amount away from final number. up or down. np penalty for going over. Aim high aim true!First prize is ray subers job♣Second place is Gitesh Pandya's jobThird place, a set of steak knives, (name the movie, was actually for second place)*5.6m to omni changing his avatar to the greatest actor of the last quarter century

Okay people. Time for another challenge. I projected 165m for the end of GW two weeks ago and there were a lot of non believers judging by so many 200m and below predictions. Mid 160s is going to happen by sunday. Now the question is what kind of hold this weekend and legs are to follow. Its very simple, yet not, to come up with a final number. Determine what the weekend will be, apply a multiplier and add to 165-168m.6m x 10?7m x 15?8m x 20?This is not a revision. The first round stays intact. Someone in the top 5 will win that one. Well, probably me or boxx if it fades.Take the week to contemplate it, due by 1200 Tokyo saturday, 11pm ny friday. This could be months before its decided, if you're all not too low. Aim high and stay in the game until autumn.mfantin............. 325,000,000 :locked2:KingSlayer............275,000,000Ray........................273,000,000SamComedian.......272,000,000DamienRoc...........266,992,761Boxx93.................265,000,000Henry II................262,000,000Murgatroyd..........258.000,000Catlover................255,800,000Quigley.................255,000,000Chucky.................252,252,252ZackZack..............250,000,000Incardine..............250,000,000Omni....................245,000,000tong kosong..........245,000,000Hans13.................228,000,000Keysersoze123 ...225,000,000Corpse..................200,000,000 will never break 244mRaySubers.............I don't know, a lot :wacko:Will it crash like Its HMC or soar like SA .We could do a third challenge at the start of summer. Triple crown!

A look back at prediction pre and post GW. After what appears to be another strong hold of 12m+ for the week and a 179m total, it looks like 30% drops ain't happening soon and 215 or lower is NEVER going to happen. If it starts a steady decline of 20% per week and closes in june 230 would be reached. not likely. 20% declines into june and flatten out at 2m per week for an extended run into summer like other top 5 phenoms, 250m. Possible but likely higher. 15% declines into July and closes, 250m, continues into summer w midweeks doubling, 280m. an extended run beyond that into dec, 300m 10% average declines until mid July, at the rate its going,why not, 255m then summer boost and 300m reached by the end of summer plus extended run.Holds flat a few weeks and has nominal declines until summer then boosts and extends. Monster number Edited May 15, 2014 by T E Lawrence

[Quigley]

Wow, that's so bad it's actually pretty funny.

 

Kinda off-topic: Talking about things that are so bad they're funny, look at how desperate BOM is to gain followers on Twitter.

 

http://forums.boxoffice.com/index.php?/topic/4301-south-korea-box-office-2014/?p=1407763

[lab276]

Toy Story 3 in Japan

Total as of September 18–19, 2010: ¥10,791,686,065

Total as of September 25–26, 2010: ¥10,659,750,457

 

If any of you have any other explanation besides Subers's utter retardation, please enlighten me.

Where's that from?

[Murgatroyd]

Where's that from?

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan/?yr=2010&wk=38&currency=local&p=.htm

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan/?yr=2010&wk=39&currency=local&p=.htm

 

It's worth noting that the USD page shows a week-to-week increase in this case.

[LABAS]

According to the yahoo report, the total gross of Frozenis 17.68 billion yen, which means Mon to Thur is 600m Yen.The average ticket price has reached a new high-1461.This is amazing, coz Wed is discount day

Edited May 16, 2014 by LABAS

[rhfqkddl45]

Friday 5/16 (2:30pm Admissions)

 

*4 cinemas total

last week...7551

Today.......7154

 

*Toho                 *109                   *Kinezo                 *Movix

wk-6......4167        wk-6.....1115          wk-6....996           wk-9....1401                         wk-7......3850        wk-7.....988           wk-7....863             Today...1310

wk-9......4214        wk-9.....1048          wk-9....888

Today.....3847        Today....1058          Today...939

 

*blue=today admission

Edited May 16, 2014 by Hans13

[catlover]

According to the yahoo report, the total gross of Frozenis 17.68 billion yen, which means Mon to Thur is 600m Yen.The average ticket price has reached a new high-1461.This is amazing, coz Wed is discount day

 

Nice! I knew there was gonna be a report about moving to #6 all time. That's like what, 173-174m? Higher than the numbers estimated here. So 13m+ week?

Edited May 16, 2014 by catlover

[Olive]

Yep.

As of May 15

Total gross: 17.68B yen

Total admissions:13.91M