John Wars Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I do try as well most of the time to ignore them but sometimes it get's to much for me lol! good thing you do.. otherwise it would just be a boring forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I'm sure Keyzersoze isn't trolling or anything, his posts usually make a lot of sense. In this case he's stating his opinion and it isn't entirely groundless either. I really enjoyed AoU, more than the first one even, but it's unlikely to be a WoM beast or anything. That doesn't mean it will do poor at the box office though, interest is still high and competition is favorable. In different circumstances though, it could have been a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentknifezz Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) I'm sure Keyzersoze isn't trolling or anything, his posts usually make a lot of sense. In this case he's stating his opinion and it isn't entirely groundless either. I really enjoyed AoU, more than the first one even, but it's unlikely to be a WoM beast or anything. That doesn't mean it will do poor at the box office though, interest is still high and competition is favorable. In different circumstances though, it could have been a different story. i know but sometime his post comes in a way that makes everyone feel like this film gonna burn to ash coz the WoM just ok not great.But again it is his feeling and reasonable Edited April 25, 2015 by Cy n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynosure Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 If it's so bad use 'ignore preferences'. No use whining about it on a thread. And I agree with Rsyu above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Keyzer is good but he goes from very optimistic to pessimistic to quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) I'm sure Keyzersoze isn't trolling or anything, his posts usually make a lot of sense. In this case he's stating his opinion and it isn't entirely groundless either. I really enjoyed AoU, more than the first one even, but it's unlikely to be a WoM beast or anything. That doesn't mean it will do poor at the box office though, interest is still high and competition is favorable. In different circumstances though, it could have been a different story. I agree Keyser isn't a troll but his current view of TA2 is, it's going to crash and burn in every market and we don't know if that'll happen. Edited April 25, 2015 by druv10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KATCH-2D2 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) I'm sure Keyzersoze isn't trolling or anything, his posts usually make a lot of sense. In this case he's stating his opinion and it isn't entirely groundless either. I really enjoyed AoU, more than the first one even, but it's unlikely to be a WoM beast or anything. That doesn't mean it will do poor at the box office though, interest is still high and competition is favorable. In different circumstances though, it could have been a different story. It's impossible for the movie this calibre to do poor at the box office anyway no matter what kind of reception it's getting. It's more to do with sky-high expectation vs. reality. I know AOU won't have TA's stellar WOM but it'd annoy me if it get "bad" WOM instead of "good" because of unmet expectations. Plus I'd love to see AOU topping FF7 OS so every dollar counts. Edited April 25, 2015 by KATCH 22 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I agree Keyser isn't a troll but his current view of TA2 is, it's going to crash and burn in every market and we don't know if that'll happen. I haven't been following his posts on other threads so I can't really comment on that. I don't think he's been out of line in the SK thread though and calling his input BS like some guy did a page back is just silly I guess it will make it all the sweeter for the rest of us if/when AoU can be labelled as a box office hit and we can watch Keyzer eat his humble pie It's impossible for the movie this calibre to do poor at the box office anyway no matter what kind of reception it's getting. It's more to do with sky-high expectation vs. reality. I know AOU won't have TA's stellar WOM but it'd annoy me if it get "bad" WOM instead of "good" because of unmet expectations. Plus I'd love to see AOU topping FF7 OS so every dollar counts. That's what I've been seeing a lot in Korea and I'm sure its similar in other countries too. In Korea though you also have the unmet expectations of the Seoul footage as well as the quality in comparison with the original that's coming under fire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 But it's huge Yes, yes it is. It should become the 2nd biggest opening weekend after the local phenom Roaring Currents, and not 2nd by much. Now admissions are up to 2,430,040 Some perspective IM 3: 4/25/13 4 day o/w = $19,553,284 Total= $64,211,513 Avengers: 4/26/12 4 day= $13,155,372 Total = $50,683,851 If it has the shorter legs of IM3 that's about $92m off a $28m o/w 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 The point is Fast 7 has really changed expectations for this film. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 The point is Fast 7 has really changed expectations for this film. Yes but this is the SK thread and it will pass FF7s total admissions Sunday afternoon. Unless people are expecting it to do China numbers in SK with a population of 50m I can't see how anyone could be disappointed or think it's under-performing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I haven't been following his posts on other threads so I can't really comment on that. I don't think he's been out of line in the SK thread though and calling his input BS like some guy did a page back is just silly I guess it will make it all the sweeter for the rest of us if/when AoU can be labelled as a box office hit and we can watch Keyzer eat his humble pie He's usually not biased so TA2 must have hit a nerve for him. No question, he's very knowledgeable so I definitely won't rule out him being right but currently we just don't know what kind of legs it'll get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 The point is Fast 7 has really changed expectations for this film. But that's dumb. TA2 should be looked at it's own merit BO wise. It's going to make over 1B OS which is phenomenal no matter what and especially when you factor in crappy exchange rates WW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) The point is Fast 7 has really changed expectations for this film. Honestly I compare to TA1, not FF7 because it makes more sense. As long as it can pass TA1 I'm satisfied, in every market This thread is going too fast, I can't follow guys, calm down Edited April 25, 2015 by Fullbuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Yes, yes it is. It should become the 2nd biggest opening weekend after the local phenom Roaring Currents, and not 2nd by much. Now admissions are up to 2,430,040 Some perspective IM 3: 4/25/13 4 day o/w = $19,553,284 Total= $64,211,513 Avengers: 4/26/12 4 day= $13,155,372 Total = $50,683,851 If it has the shorter legs of IM3 that's about $92m off a $28m o/w Everyone thought IM3 had 10 million admissions tied up the pace it was going and then suddenly it rolled of a cliff on week4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Everyone thought IM3 had 10 million admissions tied up the pace it was going and then suddenly it rolled of a cliff on week4. Most movies do that even Frozen did that so TA2 will eventually collapse, question is will it collapse week 3, week 4 or week 5? If it's after week 4 than 11-12M admissions will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KATCH-2D2 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 That's what I've been seeing a lot in Korea and I'm sure its similar in other countries too. In Korea though you also have the unmet expectations of the Seoul footage as well as the quality in comparison with the original that's coming under fire. What wrong with the Seoul footage?? Apart from the fact that no landmarks got destroyed and no major destructions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Most movies do that even Frozen did that so TA2 will eventually collapse, question is will it collapse week 3, week 4 or week 5? If it's after week 4 than 11-12M admissions will happen. If it follows IM3s drops exactly and collapses week 4 it will do over 11m admissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KATCH-2D2 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Honestly I compare to TA1, not FF7 because it makes more sense. As long as it can pass TA1 I'm satisfied, in every market This thread is going too fast, I can't follow guys, calm down LOL... And I thought you loved it when a thread was alive and moving.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 What wrong with the Seoul footage?? Apart from the fact that no landmarks got destroyed and no major destructions... Well yeah zero money shots and also it looked so generic. There was nothing there that seperated it from any other city in korea tbh. Usually I don't think people would even care that much but it was a big part of pre-release hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...