zackzack Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I would say it is looking at 300m state side and 475 international for 775 ww, just about twice superman returns. We should use something other than the romantic SR as a target. That movie is a romance disguised as a superhero movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wars Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 how many shots of spiderman did we get where he is running/jumping with the american flag behind him? the "American" ness of Superman might still be hindering it some places overaseas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messipotamia Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 That's also the reason why CAPTAIN AMERICA didn't do as well as IM... I don't agree with that, because based on that logic CA would've done as well as IM domestically but it barely made half of it. Both spiderman 1 and 3 had sweeping american flag shots and did just fine. MOS has done fantastic biz so far for a reboot of a stagnant franchise (unlike ASM which was a reboot of a thriving franchise, atleast commercially). If this film matches your guys' predictions of 350 mill + OS then that would be great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I don't agree with that, because based on that logic CA would've done as well as IM domestically but it barely made half of it. Both spiderman 1 and 3 had sweeping american flag shots and did just fine.MOS has done fantastic biz so far for a reboot of a stagnant franchise (unlike ASM which was a reboot of a thriving franchise, atleast commercially).If this film matches your guys' predictions of 350 mill + OS then that would be great.Spider-man wasn't thriving before ASM.The domestic gross was droping like a rock since SM1 and critics hated SM3.ASM2 should be the first Spider-man movie to increase domestically from the previous movie. The reboot saved a dying franchise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messipotamia Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Spider-man wasn't thriving before ASM.The domestic gross was droping like a rock since SM1 and critics hated SM3.ASM2 should be the first Spider-man movie to increase domestically from the previous movie. The reboot saved a dying franchise. Internationally it was thriving and more than made up for the domestic deficit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Internationally it was thriving and more than made up for the domestic deficit. I think SM3 was successful base on expanded markets at the time, but also because of the goodwill build by both Spider Man 1 & 2. Both movies' qualities are regarded highly, people love them. Spider Man 3 benefited from that, but the reception towards the movie, I would say, was not favorable at all, both domestic and overseas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 MoS in the UK is on course to outgross TASM, its already at $33.5m while TASM was at $29.3m in its second week and that went on to gross $40.2m total. It held up pretty well against WWZ and DM2 previews so I think it should have good drops until the release of Monsters Universty and Pacific Rim. $45-50m will likely be the final gross for MoS which would be fantastic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentryTrans Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 MoS 2 = $1B WW Even MOS2 couldn't reach 1B WW, MOS3 would pass 1B! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Even MOS2 couldn't reach 1B WW, MOS3 would pass 1B! You are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 You are wrong.you can't know that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 you can't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 That's also the reason why CAPTAIN AMERICA didn't do as well as IM... Captain America had a higher OS share than IM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentryTrans Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 You are wrong. I wouldn't mind that my prediction might be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bballman24 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I always said IM1 as the target. Anything more is gravy so I am happy lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALayrisson Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) I always said IM1 as the target. Anything more is gravy so I am happy lol Agreed. It didn't need to be IM3, TDK, or TDKR. It just needed to be the equivalent of IM1 or TASM. That it is. Thats all that can be asked of this movie and in that expectation it has succeeded and will get to $700+. When MoS2 comes around though, that's an entirely different conversation. Edited June 24, 2013 by witness 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZattMurdock Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Doesn't matter whether it can pass TASM really. 400M+ OS is mighty fine for a reboot. MOS is also doing better than TASM domestically, so everything's good. Interestingly enough, if you take out Walmart tickets from the equation, MOS and TASM second weekends were nearly identical. Now the key is if MOS will keep having legs to keep the advantage or it'll fall behind eventually. I've MOS pegged at $275m-$285m DOM at this point. Not entirely sure about OS, but I feel like it'll do amazing numbers for a reboot, while TASM keeps the crown as most successful reboot worldwide, with MOS taking the 1st spot in DOM. Edited June 24, 2013 by iKent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Interestingly enough, if you take out Walmart tickets from the equation, MOS and TASM second weekends were nearly identical. Now the key is if MOS will keep having legs to keep the advantage or it'll fall behind eventually. I've MOS pegged at $275m-$285m DOM at this point. Not entirely sure about OS, but I feel like it'll do amazing numbers for a reboot, while TASM keeps the crown as most successful reboot worldwide, with MOS taking the 1st spot in DOM. That's not interesting, it's an extremely flawed comparison. You just gave TASM a 3.5 day headstart on MOS with that comparison since TASM has previews on Monday and a full release on Tuesday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 MoS should clean up well in Australia. Like it did in another English-speaking country, the UK. It is not unrealistic to expect it to do $40M down under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 MoS should clean up well in Australia. Like it did in another English-speaking country, the UK. It is not unrealistic to expect it to do $40M down under. It is, this isn't making more than IM3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I agree.. This reboot is way better than TASM and it certainly looking to out gross it..Whats more impressive is TASM rode the coattails of Tobey Maguires and Raimi's Spiderman ROFL in the billon+ adjusted SM3.. MOS is going to beat it and coming off a huge letdown by fans and flop at tbox office. MOS2 is practically guranteed to be a billion dollar movie with the right story and improving on MOS1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...