peludo Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 why is MI5 not being in 3d a major issue. MI4 was not in 3d and it was one of the biggest movies back then. Market has expanded big time and so I dont see anything wrong with the expectations. Also the movie has had great reception and is kind of movies china should love. Because China LOVES 3D. If MI4 did not have 3D (I thought it did in China), maybe the reason MI5 is not exploding is for some reason people have said here: the film seems (I have not seen it) to have less action or more plot than MI4. I do not know if that is true, but it could be a reason: not pure action, but a more complex film. Anyway, it seems to be headed to $160-170m, what means a 50% increase and nearly the same than US gross. I guess that is not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Nah. I have seen MI5 twice. Its definitely no less action packed than MI4. I think its more though there is no single action scene that registered as well as the Burj khalifa scene in MI4. Plot wise all these movies are straight forward. Only MI1 had kind of complex plot. All the rest are easy to follow. Except MI2 rest have been executed very well as well. Today both the movies are headed towards monster drops. Not a good sign for healthy legs. Edited September 14, 2015 by keysersoze123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 But aren't these facts? It is the highest OD for an animation - that's impressive in its own merit. Yes, but some of the comparison's are off base. I mean Monkey King: Hero Is Back had almost no expectations and opened significantly low for how much it ended up making thanks to strong word of mouth. Just be wary of these articles as they're often written by people who don't really follow the industry closely. no matter the actual articles... Deadline also 'steels' often infos without naming the source article / interview or only adding the source by name insted via link as it is usus & expected in the industry, too often only after they get called on that = afterwards And they are too often way off or only rehashing already since hours or longer exisitng knowledge in a new outfit to appear as 'News'. They are the last of all sources I try (not) to use Btw MinaTakla, do not forget: you have to add a link if you quote an article here, and are not allowed full quotes....., see forum rules, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Monday est Mi5 - 28.7m/579m Minions OD - 25.3M/145m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 That's bigger drop than expected for both. I was expecting 30-35m each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) It looks like minions wont have a leggy run. Even MI5 number aint that good. Both will be below 20m by thursday. how is the WOM for Minions? Edited September 14, 2015 by keysersoze123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giesi Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 There is someone who predicted $300m for Star Wars?? That is huge and illogical, IMHO Anyway, you can not completely discard that some movie can hit again, like F7, AoU, Monster Hunt or Jurassic World have already done. I am not saying that KFP3, SW7, IA5, IO... all of them will make tons of money, but maybe 1 or 2 of them will. You can not rule out it. Or maybe none of them will smash, but 1 or 2 local films are able to. BO never is completely predictable as we have already seen. MI5 does not have 3D, Minions has been released with good pirate copies, ... you can not just low every prediction just because 2 presumed huge successes have not hit as hard as we thought. The reality say that last year, US had 33 films over $100m and China 11 films over 600 million Yuan (that amount is a bit lower than $100m, but I use those figures to not depend on exchange rates). This year, the gap for those figures has narrowed, for the moment, to 19-12. China keeps increasing the number of hits, and, in some moment, another film will hit again, grossing $300 or $400m. And then, for sure, we will go crazy with predictions again. It is a matter of keeping the perspective. What would a more proper prediction for Star Wars run in China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 @ChinaBoxOffice #MissionImpossible #RogueNation took in est. $4.5M on Mon. China's total stands at $90.9M @ChinaBoxOffice @Minions earned est. $4.0M on Monday. China's 2-day total stands at $22.8M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) @ChinaBoxOffice #TerminatorGenisys earned est. $0.13M on Monday. China's total stands at $113.3M. @ChinaBoxOffice @PixelsMovie earned est. $78K from Monday midnight screenings Edited September 14, 2015 by terrestrial 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Seems that if you don't release your Hollywood movies before the blackout period in China, you have no hope of crazy numbers Too early to tell for Minions or MI5 but definitely not the outrageous numbers many expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 What would a more proper prediction for Star Wars run in China? I will compare with Harry Potter and LOTR, which were the franchises that were competing with Star Wars during last trilogy: Phantom Menace was the biggest Hollywood release in 1999 ($3.9m) Attack of the Clones ($5.4m) was behind Harry Potter 1 ($7.1m) and Fellowship of the Ring ($6.4m) in 2002, but over Spider-man ($5.2m) Revenge of the Sith ($9.3m) was behind Harry Potter 4 ($11.7m) in 2005. Previous year, ROTK already did $10m. If this follow the same pattern and we take into account that: * Last Harry Potter did about $65m in 2011 (just for reference, the same year that KFP2 did $100m, for which sequel we are talking about $250-300m). So we could talk about $180-$200m for a today HP film. * This year, Hobbit 3 has done $125m. Hobbit films have been in a lower level than LOTR everywhere, about a 40% drop in attendance. So LOTR films could have done today about $180m-$200m, same figures than Harry Potter. * Last Spider-man film did a bit less than $100m last year, and Attack of the Clones already beat SM1, a quite better film than TASM2. If SW7 gets a normal release date, the logic tells me that a more accurate prediction should be $150-175m. Probably the 1999-2005 figures are not the best references because the market has changed dramatically, but we do not have another way to compare. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I will compare with Harry Potter and LOTR, which were the franchises that were competing with Star Wars during last trilogy: Phantom Menace was the biggest Hollywood release in 1999 ($3.9m) Attack of the Clones ($5.4m) was behind Harry Potter 1 ($7.1m) and Fellowship of the Ring ($6.4m) in 2002, but over Spider-man ($5.2m) Revenge of the Sith ($9.3m) was behind Harry Potter 4 ($11.7m) in 2005. Previous year, ROTK already did $10m. If this follow the same pattern and we take into account that: * Last Harry Potter did about $65m in 2011 (just for reference, the same year that KFP2 did $100m, for which sequel we are talking about $250-300m). So we could talk about $180-$200m for a today HP film. * This year, Hobbit 3 has done $125m. Hobbit films have been in a lower level than LOTR everywhere, about a 40% drop in attendance. So LOTR films could have done today about $180m-$200m, same figures than Harry Potter. * Last Spider-man film did a bit less than $100m last year, and Attack of the Clones already beat SM1, a quite better film than TASM2. If SW7 gets a normal release date, the logic tells me that a more accurate prediction should be $150-175m. Probably the 1999-2005 figures are not the best references because the market has changed dramatically, but we do not have another way to compare. Agree with this. 170m for Star Wars and 288m for KFP3 (3 x times its 2011 number as a best case) Edited September 14, 2015 by MinaTakla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It looks like even $100 million is in danger now for Minions based on firedeep's chart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) BoxOffice @BoxOffice China Box Office Weekend Report: Hollywood Dominates Weekend as 'Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation' and... http://fb.me/4jRRiPVKM Edited September 14, 2015 by terrestrial 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 IDKY they gave Pixels so many showtimes. Didn't do well anywhere else. Its going to be less than minions and MI5 today. Could be well short of 20m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Looks like MI5 and minions will make 1.5 to 1.6B yuan combined, some thought MI5 would make that much alone... And Minions may not beat KFP2... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Monday est Mi5 - 28.7m/579m Minions OD - 25.3M/145m MI5 -29.6M Minions - 25.7M 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgchn40 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Looks like MI5 and minions will make 1.5 to 1.6B yuan combined, some thought MI5 would make that much alone... And Minions may not beat KFP2... This is underwhelming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesAPooka Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 What is opening in the next two weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 This is underwhelming... No. Its a reality check 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...