terrestrial Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Parlio @parlio .@limlouisa on what China censored in 2015--biggest challenges were not what you think http://buff.ly/1SKzBSR China Film Insider @china_film Sunday’s gross receipts of "Star Wars" fell 35% from Saturday’s opening- by @ChinaBoxOffice http://goo.gl/O33YQ5 China Film Insider @china_film Social media reaction points to a truncated run for "Star Wars" - by @ChinaBoxOffice http://goo.gl/v4aVQN China Box Office @ChinaBoxOffice Chinese filmgoers: Creating nostalgia while introducing a new story doesn’t have to conflict.” http://wp.me/p6r4I4-uA via @china_film China Film Insider @china_film 4DX technology to expand to theaters in China - via DCinema Today http://goo.gl/v4aVQN Edited January 12, 2016 by terrestrial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgchn40 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 5 hours ago, Black Hawk said: It's Official: China's Wanda Acquires Legendary Entertainment for $3.5 Billionhttp://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/official-chinas-wanda-acquires-legendary-854827 So would anything produced by Legendary Entertainment be considered as "domestic production"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snitch Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 6 hours ago, Black Hawk said: It's Official: China's Wanda Acquires Legendary Entertainment for $3.5 Billionhttp://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/official-chinas-wanda-acquires-legendary-854827 Warcraft 300 m from China confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numble Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 43 minutes ago, sgchn40 said: So would anything produced by Legendary Entertainment be considered as "domestic production"? 4 hours ago, numble said: So will films produced by Legendary Films be considered imports? I assume yes since it is still legally an American company? Is there any specific regulation on foreign imports and co-productions? I can read Chinese if needed. I did some preliminary looking into the issue myself. This is the memorandum of understanding that provides for the 34 film quota, which revised the previous 20 film quota: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202987.pdf There is some leeway to say that Legendary would be considered Chinese, as you can argue that it is now a Chinese-invested enterprise: "Chinese enterprise" includes any Chinese state-owned or state-controlled enterprise or private Chinese-invested enterprise. Other interesting tidbits: The recent expansion of the quota only applied to films that can be screened in 3D/IMAX, maybe one reason why they released Furious 7 in 3D: China confirms that enhanced format films are not subject to the 20-film commitment set forth in the Additional Commitments under Sector 2.D. of its GATS Schedule ("RevenueSharing Film Commitment"). China further agrees that it will allow the importation of at least 14 enhanced format revenue-sharing films per calendar year beginning in 2012. They will negotiate for changes in 2017: In calendar year 2017, China and the United States will engage in consultations. Through this consultation process, China and the United States will provide for further meaningful compensation to the United States in terms of the number of enhanced format films to be imported each year and the share of gross box office receipts received by U.S. enterprises. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 SW7 looking at 10% drop today, which is pretty decent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, sgchn40 said: So would anything produced by Legendary Entertainment be considered as "domestic production"? Unless the movie has one third of its cast and creative team as Chinese people, beside investments. So Warcraft wont be considered as a China-US co-production. But Great War and a possible PR2 will be made as official China-US co-productions... which will be treated as Chinese local films, in terms of marketing and release date. Edited January 12, 2016 by firedeep 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernus Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 15 hours ago, peludo said: Just four examples: HP1 did $24m in Spain with 6.3 million admissions. With today average ticket price, that amount of admissions means $43m (+79%) In UK, it did $91m. It sold an estimated 17.56 million admissions, which today means about $170m (+86%) In Germany it sold 12.5 million admissions which means, if I am not wrong, about $120m (it did $67m) (+79%) In France it sold 9.5 million admissions which means about $75m against the real $48m (+56%) In Germany, France and Spain cases, HP1 sold more admissions than TFA. And in UK case it can be quite close. Even in US the estimated adjusted figure is a 51% bigger than the real figure. And you are saying a mere +38% increase in 14 years even considering that HP1 had worse ER than now. And of course, in the adjusted figures I do not include the 3D effect that SW7 has. DH2 did $60m in China 5 years ago. Today HP would be easily a 150-200 contender. Fantastic Beasts will be a good test to know it. Said this, I agree with you that people have more entertainment sources than in 2001 and the amounts made this 2015 not just by TFA, but by JW, AoU, F7 or Minions have an incredible merit. But the same applies if we compare 2001 with 1977 and A New Hope times What kind of entertainment or ways to see films existed in 1977 beyond going to the cinemas? no one. It is impossible to compare different eras for those factors, so we just have to look at the BO figures/admissions, or just we can avoid this kind of comparisons. But it is more fun to compare BTW, Welcome to the forums!! Edit: My bad. Just seen that TFA will sell more than 10 million admissions in France, so TFA wins there, but not by much. Thats some really interesting data. Do you have similar data for Titanic? I would love to see what it would have made today with the same admissions in a lot of big countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 13 hours ago, efialtes76 said: Even with a good Tuesday hold TFA won't finish with more than $150m-$160m. And I think we would all be happy with that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 36 minutes ago, Infernus said: Thats some really interesting data. Do you have similar data for Titanic? I would love to see what it would have made today with the same admissions in a lot of big countries. Yes, but this is not the appropiate thread to do it. We can use this one: http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/18043-adjusting-exchange-rates/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangsen Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Fake said: SW7 looking at 10% drop today, which is pretty decent. No way. 15%-17% 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 1 hour ago, jiangsen said: No way. 15%-17% Monday is at 48m now on maoyan and cbo, was 47. Not sure if that is the final tally. It looking to finish at 41/42 on maoyan/cbo which would have been 11-13% from 47. So it could be 13-15% if that number holds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangsen Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Tuesday Estimates Star Wars: TFA 39.9M/434M (-17% from yesterday's actual 48.2M) Detective Chinatown 15.1M/666M Mr. Six 8.1M/840M Mojin 4.2M/1.645B Sherlock 3.6M/143M Edited January 12, 2016 by jiangsen 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgchn40 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I believe Olive will be updating very soon. Based on weibo, SW7 gross today isn't pretty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Tuesday EstimatesStar Wars: TFA 39.9M/434M, $6.06m/$66m Detective Chinatown 15M/666M Mr. Six 8M/840M Mojin 4.2M/1645M Sherlock 3.6M/143M Wow, looks TFA will only have 15% showtimes on Saturday, sharply drop.(JW 2nd weekend had 22%) Edited January 12, 2016 by The Good Olive 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 My Prediction for the next days 33 - 447 29 - 476 38 - 514 65 - 579 55 - 634 So around 630-640M($97-98m) after 2nd Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 If 39m stands then walk ups are worse than presales. Now presales looking bleak for tomorrow. Down 20% from this time yesterday. Will be below $125m if this happens. Could lose to Arnold if it gets worse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, The Good Olive said: My Prediction for the next days 33 - 447 29 - 476 38 - 514 65 - 579 55 - 634 So around 630-640M($97-98m) after 2nd Sunday. 55m Sunday would be down just 60%. Should be 66%+ with those showtimes- 45m. Showtimes are usually understated 4 days out I noticed. Mite be closer to 20%. But still, with these drops it won't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) There are new openers on thu, Fri and sat. 2 of them have several million in pre-sales already. This could get ugly. Maoyan shows 15% ST on friday. 10% sat. So sat will probably rise 15%. If pre-sales for tomorrow are right and it drops 20%, I think it goes like this. 48m M 40m T 32m W 26m T 34m F 55m S 40m Su 622m 66% drop the following week and it's just 100m more before KFP3 opens. 90% drop that week. Would be close to T5 in yuan but lose in dollars due to XR. $110-115m This went from ugly last Thursday to looking good to Fugly. such is life Edited January 12, 2016 by No Prisoners 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgchn40 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Given that SW7 worldwide gross is now 1.733 billion, with additional $150m from North America and $60m from China, can it beat Titanic 2.187 billon worldwide? It seems like even this is a question mark now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 11 minutes ago, sgchn40 said: Given that SW7 worldwide gross is now 1.733 billion, with additional $150m from North America and $60m from China, can it beat Titanic 2.187 billon worldwide? It seems like even this is a question mark now... I'd say no. That would be a $1.943 total. It would need to make another $244m off a non China $51m O/S last w/e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...