Polaroids Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Duckweed's director is facing a huge controversy... I think it will affect the film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertman2 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 36 minutes ago, TigerPaw said: Rogue One is now 8 on Maoyan. Arrival 7.5.. While passengers is 8.5, and both Great Wall/Railroad tigers (2 crap which I regretted watching) are above 8. Gosh i can't take this. I haven't seen Great Wall and Railroad Tigers, but Passengers was awful. The fact audiences like it more than R1 and Arrival is depressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangsen Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, Polaroids said: Duckweed's director is facing a huge controversy... I think it will affect the film Can you elaborate? What happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 27 minutes ago, jiangsen said: Browsing a bunch of Maoyan reviews. Seems like most were bored thinking it'd be more of an action sci-fi film and A LOT didn't understand the ending. For real, I have no idea why they can't understand the ending. It is not Nolan-type story making moviegoers feel confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtacy Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 37 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: For real, I have no idea why they can't understand the ending. It is not Nolan-type story making moviegoers feel confusion. Entirely possible a lot of the film maybe lost in translation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 On 1/20/2017 at 10:42 AM, Gavin Feng said: Fri estimates Arrival - OD 18m(150k from midnights, most moviegoers don’t like this film) Cause Amy Adams saves China. They didn't have to make China look weak in the movie, could have picked some country whose boxoffice doesn't matter, like Iran. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, eXtacy said: Entirely possible a lot of the film maybe lost in translation? Most friends and fans found some errors in translation but they still can understand the story. Edited January 21, 2017 by Gavin Feng Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxtreme Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 China just doesn't like Star Wars. We went all over this in 2015, it's happening again this year, and it's gonna happen again at the end of the year and the next as well. Asian moviegoers in general don't like the visual style, the mythology, the characters... and the nostalgia has no effect on them, so that only leaves behind an average sci-fi flick, which is unsurprisingly getting average numbers to boot. I doubt that changes in the near future, unless one of the "Star Wars stories" does something very differently that clicks with that audience. Not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Daxtreme said: China just doesn't like Star Wars. We went all over this in 2015, it's happening again this year, and it's gonna happen again at the end of the year and the next as well. Asian moviegoers in general don't like the visual style, the mythology, the characters... and the nostalgia has no effect on them, so that only leaves behind an average sci-fi flick, which is unsurprisingly getting average numbers to boot. I doubt that changes in the near future, unless one of the "Star Wars stories" does something very differently that clicks with that audience. Not impossible. There is a theory that Chinese like following suit very much. The supporters always said that only few people knew who Paul Walker was before his death. Forgive me for saying that I think SW8 box office might show if it’s true. And I will never doubt the theory if SW8 make more than ¥1,200m in China. Edited January 21, 2017 by Gavin Feng 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 There is a theory that Chinese like following suit very much. The supporters always said that only few people knew who Paul Walker was before his death. Forgive me for saying that I think SW8 box office might show if it’s true. And I will never doubt the theory if SW8 make more than ¥1,200m in China. I didn't quite understand. What means "following suit"? Following someones lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nVIDIADriver Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 53 minutes ago, ttr said: I didn't quite understand. What means "following suit"? Following someones lead? He means Bandwagon effect or contagion effect, if a part of people do it and that lowers the threshold, making it easier and more permissible for the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nVIDIADriver Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Not surprised that Arrival has a bad WOM in China, the film doesn't have any furious battlefield scene, in other words, it is not a typical Sci-Fi film the general audiences expect for. As fast-food culture predominates the market here, most of audiences do not have enough patience to follow a slow intrinsic story without stimulating visual effects. But I personally dislike this movie too, because I had read the book before ... my ranking of some of the recent films are listed as follows, La La Land, 8.6/10 Hacksaw Ridge - 7.3/10 Arrival - 6.9/10 Passenger - 6.2/10 RO - 6.2/10 And I can guess that the ranking of Chinese general audiences might be Hacksaw Ridge > La La Land > Passenger > RO > Arrival. In general, most audiences here pay more attention to the following aspects, 1> complicate story, no matter the quality is good or not. So many Chinese audiences have a prejudice that a good story is always complicated or innovative, that's why audiences here overrated Interstellar but underestimated Gravity because by comparison, Gravity's story is too succinct. 2> startling or innovative visual effects, it's not difficult to understand, right? 3> emotional performance, for example, it's one of the reasons why Hacksaw Ridge got such an excellent WOM here, and showtimes a handsome/beautiful face is enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 He means Bandwagon effect or contagion effect, if a part of people do it and that lowers the threshold, making it easier and more permissible for the next. Ok, thanks. I think there were few people who saw SW7 to make a bandwagon effect(?) Not sure if I follow, unless theory has something to do with Carrie Fishers death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nVIDIADriver Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, ttr said: Ok, thanks. I think there were few people who saw SW7 to make a bandwagon effect(?) Not sure if I follow, unless theory has something to do with Carrie Fishers death. We all know that the WOM of TFA is not that good and I have to say Carrie Fisher isn't very popular here, I don't know how can EP8 get a positive bandwagon effect in China. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahadm8888 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 On 1/17/2017 at 6:03 PM, TigerPaw said: only 5 days for kung fu yuga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 but Interstellar did well in China... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Matrix4You said: but Interstellar did well in China... Christopher Nolan movies are crazily popular there. If Dark Knight was shown in China, TDKR in 2012 would have done so much better in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 8 hours ago, ttr said: Ok, thanks. I think there were few people who saw SW7 to make a bandwagon effect(?) Not sure if I follow, unless theory has something to do with Carrie Fishers death. What they are saying is this... Bandwagon effect for SW7 happened because there was news everywhere that it was breaking box office records in US, and opened well everywhere. + curiousity factor and huge marketing in China. So it opened extremely well in China in its first weekend. But as you know it was so bad, people were turned off and it affected Rogue One badly. So.. the question now is.. for SW8, is there this contagion effect? Carrie Fisher's death allowing SW8 to break box office record elsewhere and Chinese have the cruiously factor and start supporting it? Just like how they jumped on the bandwagon for Paul Walker's F7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Matrix4You said: but Interstellar did well in China... Interstellar is a Sci-Fi blockbuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Any Sunday estimates tonight? =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...