China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

[hw64]

4 minutes ago, Cookson said:

 

Could it also be because it's not the summer time?

 

The 4th and 5th highest-grossing films of all time in China were released in September and December last year.

[peludo]

4 minutes ago, Cookson said:

 

Could it also be because it's not the summer time?

And extreme competition within few days.

[terrestrial]

and changed exchange rates,... a relatively little reason in comparison to WOM, but I prefer the bigger picture, that includes at least a few mosaic stones too

[druv10]

18 minutes ago, peludo said:

And extreme competition within few days.

 

Comp isn't a big factor. If it had good WOM than 200M would be on the table. 

[peludo]

5 minutes ago, druv10 Maul said:

 

Comp isn't a big factor. If it had good WOM than 200M would be on the table. 

Sure. But to lose lots of theatres do not help.

[terrestrial]

15 minutes ago, druv10 Maul said:

Comp isn't a big factor. If it had good WOM than 200M would be on the table. 

Competiton getting the screens doesn't help. WOM is the start, but like in those cases typical (IMHO) it's a bot of a spiral, makes the impact of the competition bigger,.. you'll get the drift

[POTUS 2020]

53 minutes ago, TigerPaw said:

WOM on weibo is getting from mixed to really quite bad now. Fans are saying its a copy of Ep4, non-fans seem to be unamazed and many of them claimed they fell asleep in the theaters. Gewara is still holding up an 8/10. 

Monday drops will be interesting to see, because if the weekday drops are huge, we don't even need to wait for KFP3 because local films and lack of showtimes might already put a limit to its box office potential.

Lol. I fell asleep in 77 when I was 12. I must have been Chinese in a past life

[kswiston]

42 minutes ago, Elessar said:

I dunno, ask someone who knows Chinese box office better.

 

Spectre opened to something like $45M in 3-days and failed to make double that. It's not that uncommon. 

[bangbingchan]

38 minutes ago, kswiston said:

 

Spectre opened to something like $45M in 3-days and failed to make double that. It's not that uncommon. 

EP7 is similar to Spectre in many ways.It's too nostalgic and old fashion.Many people are confused and some even fall asleep.cinema score is very low.

EP7 8.1 SP 7.9 （the lowest recently MJ2 7.5）.Thus,it is not strange that EP7 fail to reach $150M.$100~130M is more possible.

Edited January 10, 2016 by bangbingchan

[POTUS 2020]

T5						MI5					JW					SW7
Day	Yuab	Daily % +/-	Last Week	Tot Yuan	$Tot	Yuan	Daily % +/-	Last Week	Tot Yuan	$Tot	Yuan	Daily % +/-	Last Week	Tot Yuan	$Tot	Yuan	Daily % +/-	Last Week	Tot Yuan	$Tot
Tues						117			117	18
Wed						79	-32%		196	31	109			109	18
Thur						65	-18%		261	41	80	-27%		189	30
Fri						76	17%		337	53	101	26%		290	47	14			14	2
Sat						128	68%		465	73	170	68%		460	74	193			207	32
Sun	167			167	26	88	-31%		553	87	146	-14%		606	98	136	-30%		343	52
Mon	67	-60%		234	37	30	-66%		583	92	53	-64%		659	106	55	-60%	Est	398	61
Tues	57	-15%		291	46	25	-17%	-79%	608	96	49	-8%		708	114	48	-12%	Proj	446	68
Wed	47	-18%		338	53	23	-8%	-71%	631	99	43	-12%	-61%	751	121	42	-12%		489	75
Thur	37	-21%		375	59	20	-13%	-69%	651	103	35	-19%	-56%	786	127	37	-12%		526	80
Fri	38	3%		413	65	28	40%	-63%	679	107	46	31%	-54%	832	134	50	34%		576	88
Sat	62	64%		475	75	50	79%	-61%	729	115	97	111%	-43%	929	150	87	74%	-55%	663	101
Sun	52	-17%	-69%	527	83	40	-20%	-55%	769	121	98	1%	-33%	1027	166	60	-31%	-56%	723	110
Mon	21	-59%	-69%	548	86	14	-66%	-55%	783	123	66	-33%	25%	1093	176	23.0	-62%	-58%	746	114
Tue	17	-17%	-69%	566	89	12.7	-7%	-49%	795	125	24	-64%	-51%	1117	180	20.2	-12%	-58%	766	117
Wed	21	18%	-56%	586	92	11.5	-9%	-50%	807	127	22	-8%	-49%	1139	184	17.7	-12%	-58%	784	120
Thu	36	72%	-4%	622	97	10.4	-10%	-48%	817	129	21	-5%	-40%	1160	187	15.5	-12%	-58%	799	122
Fri	34	-3%	-9%	656	103	5.2	-50%	-81%	822	129	22	5%	-52%	1182	191	21.0	35%		820	125
Sat	24	-31%	-62%	680	107	11.0	112%	-78%	833	131	40	82%	-59%	1222	197	36.5	74%	-58%	857	131
Sun	12	-48%	-76%	692	108	8.5	-23%	-79%	842	132	36	-10%	-63%	1258	203	25.5	-30%	-58%	882	135
Mon	8.5	-30%	-60%	700	110	4.3	-49%	-68%	846	133	16.0	-56%	-76%	1274	205	10.0	-61%	-57%	892	136
Tue	2.7	-68%	-85%	703	110	4.4	2%	-65%	851	134	17.4	9%	-28%	1291	208	8.8	-12%	-56%	901	138
Wed	2.6	-3%	-87%	706	111	1.2	-73%	-90%	852	134	15.4	-11%	-30%	1307	211	7.7	-13%	-56%	909	139
Thu	2.5	-4%	-93%	708	111	2.5	108%	-76%	854	135	12.0	-22%	-43%	1319	213	6.8	-12%	-56%	916	140
			Tot	724	114			Tot	870	137			Tot	1400	229			Tot	983	150

Mon presales are 12.2m. It should fall between 4-5 times. 50-60m. I put down 55m. Mon drop can very on how old/young it skews. 60% is ok for this type of movie. More importantly will be the daily drops thru Thu. 12% average per day is average, above 15% is not good, below 10% is good, flat is huge. For this type of movie we usually see about a 35% and 75% jump on Fri and Sat if it doesn't lose too many screens to competition.

Its possible to get to 150m but with the WOM that's been stated, then a few 15%+ drops this week and too much theater loss next weekend will knock it down to MI5 levels

 

 

 

[terrestrial]

 

 BoxOffice ‏@BoxOffice

GLOBAL REPORT: 'The Force Awakens' Becomes #3 All-Time Highest Grossing Film Worldwide But Fails To Breakout In... http://fb.me/4agCIfNHs 

[hw64]

27 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

 

 BoxOffice ‏@BoxOffice

GLOBAL REPORT: 'The Force Awakens' Becomes #3 All-Time Highest Grossing Film Worldwide But Fails To Breakout In... http://fb.me/4agCIfNHs 

 

Seems like not every news site is in Disney's pocket.

[terrestrial]

1 minute ago, hw64 said:

Seems like not every news site is in Disney's pocket.

I am thinking it's not only Disney with their formulation, before that DL did an article with mistakes and too early est. and ... I think other outlets picked up out of that too.

I repeatedly posted tweets of @ChinaBoxOffice he/they/??? seem to be somehow connected to BO.com = I guess that's how they get a bit better insight than some others seemingly have.

But The Good Olive as repeatedly better (or faster than them too), so I guess we are blessed to have him and a few others here

[POTUS 2020]

4 hours ago, Cookson said:

How does a 53m 2 DAY opening not equal more than 150m total in china? That's just odd to me...

WOM spreads quickly, good and bad. The fanbase hype pulled in the 53m, bad WOM in the GA could cause it drop 70%+ next werkend

[Annayya]

31 minutes ago, No Prisoners said:

WOM spreads quickly, good and bad. The fanbase hype pulled in the 53m, bad WOM in the GA could cause it drop 70%+ next werkend

Excellent. Glad to hear that Star Wars will do poorly in China.

I just don't understand what's so good about this movie that people in USA, Canada, UK are crazy about.

 

Now, if somehow it doesn't beat the Titanic Worldwide Gross I will be happier.

There's no way it can reach Avatar anyway at the current rate its declining at most world markets including domestic.

Edited January 10, 2016 by Annayya

[terrestrial]

To be glad a fan's whatever (movie, sportsteam,...) position will be secure for a time is one thing, but that is, what I will never comprehend.

To be 'glad' about a movie 'doing poorly' for the sake of a position in an IMHO absolut unimportant ranking / chart...

 

Me, I am happy for each cent any movie makes ww, as long as the movie does not promote intolerance and ignorance, pushes to violence against minorities or.... you'll get the drift.

 

 

[MonstersandRoy]

 

1 hour ago, Annayya said:

Excellent. Glad to hear that Star Wars will do poorly in China.

I just don't understand what's so good about this movie that people in USA, Canada, UK are crazy about.

Good for you. I could say that about nearly half of the current all time top 20. It's good to see a movie with such critical success having such commercial success.

Edited January 11, 2016 by MonstersandRoy

[vc2002]

7 hours ago, Dan9 said:

So in a market where Furious 7 and Transformers 4 are the biggest Hollywood movies, SW7 isn't going to do well because of a lacklustre plot? 

 

Lol 

 

Actually nostalgia helped SW7 in the US as much as it did for F7 and TF4 in China.

[Mrstickball]

2 hours ago, Annayya said:

Excellent. Glad to hear that Star Wars will do poorly in China.

I just don't understand what's so good about this movie that people in USA, Canada, UK are crazy about.

 

Now, if somehow it doesn't beat the Titanic Worldwide Gross I will be happier.

There's no way it can reach Avatar anyway at the current rate its declining at most world markets including domestic.

 

If you're willing to listen to an American's perspective on why Star Wars (especially this one) is so loved:

 

Star Wars was the first great movie that was aimed towards a demographic of teens and adults, especially males. It spawned a trilogy of movies, which was extremely well-received, and was arguably the first to do so without a huge drop-off of quality (Godfather). The movie spawned a LOT of other things off - novels, video games (KOTOR is arguably one of the best ever made), as well as a massive toy/merchandise empire of which no movie has ever rivaled. TFA alone will bring in $5 billion in toy/merchandising rights, which dwarfs the box office run it has.

 

You then take the story that ended in 1984, and announce that its coming back with all of the old major characters.. The original actors, the original puppets, everything. Finally, it releases and is arguably as good as most people wanted in a series that was a continuation of the original (whereas the Prequels were an unfathomable letdown).. That is why its so well received. Its a cultural phenomenon that is hard to explain if you didn't grow up around the franchise for the past 4 decades. 

 

One day, China will have its own great unique movie series and universe that one could equivocate it to in terms of size and scope of its notoriety, but there are very few in movie history that one can compare it to, so its hard to "Get" when you're being plunged into the series, as opposed to watching the movies dozens of times growing up, and having to live through what were bad prequels (which if you look at IMDB ratings, you can see they were very disliked, whereas the consensus is that TFA towers above them, although is not as good as ANH or ESB). 

 

In the end, a lot of people in the west that had access to movies grew up with the series since the 1970s... This is also why its doing well in Japan, since the movies were featured prominently over there as well ($60m and likely to surpass $100m in a market that has been down for years).

 

Hopefully that explains it as best as possible. 

Edited January 11, 2016 by Mrstickball

[numble]

Can someone explain how Maoyan works? I guess Gewara only shows tickets bought through its service, but Maoyan is tracking more than that?