Red Dawn (2012)

[baumer]

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Edited November 19, 2012 by Breaking Dawn baumer

[75Live]

I take it that this is for the remake coming out on Wednesday?

[JackO]

Red Dawn is a remake of the 1984 action film Red Dawn. It features high schoolers fighting back against invaders, in the remake North Koreans, in their hometown of Spokane, Washington.There are a lot of issues with this film but the most glaring is that none of the characters have an arc. The worst offender is Matt Eckert (played by Josh Peck). Throughout much of the film Matt Eckert is so focused on getting his girlfriend back that he puts the entire group in danger, even getting one of his friends killed. But instead of redeeming himself and not quite being such an a-hole, he goes gets his brother, Jed Eckert (played by Chris Hemsworth) killed. It is truly one of the most quizzical moments of film when the singular character who is always rushing things along despite death and mayhem surrounding the group, gets killed by stopping and relaxing. It doesn't even fit the character that has been established in the previous hour and half. Oh don't worry. Peace signs fix everything.There are a lot of explosions in this. It's too be expected with such a big undertaking, what with a country getting invaded and all. Explosions usually happen with a lot of space, but this film felt very restricted. There seemed to be only 3 or 4 locations in this film. And for all the talk of a Free America, most of the action took place indoors and behind cover. That wouldn't have been so bad if the film's perspective was not so restricted on the group's little issues. An entire country is getting invaded I am supposed to care whether one of the brother's hooks up or not? I mean I can understand the younger brother's relationship since it happened prior to the invasion but the extra tacked on relationship in order to garner more emotion from the unseen twist felt really cheap.All the action takes place in a bubble. How do you become an expert insurgent fighter like the Mujahadeen and the Minute Men? A montage. North Korea invaded the entire USA except this little forest right next to the cabin where the kids are staying. These are either the dumbest invaders in the world or they are the stupidest invaders in the world.This movie also did something really interesting. In a stupid way. You see there were too many characters in this little bubble and not enough screentime for them all. So they did what anyone would do. Kill the ancillary characters and play up the emotion. Like there is this random couple who somehow hitches a ride with Robert (Josh Hutcherson) who just saw their dad die (more tears) not even 3 scenes later and the male half couple is dead.Maybe this film would have been better under it's original form, before MGM went bankrupt. And it was. it just was released in 1984.

[tommycruise]

Not only the funniest action comedies ever but also one of the funniest movies ever. Chris Hemsworth and Josh hutcherson both give hilarious performances and the North Koreans make for some of the funniest villains everA+

[baumer]

I enjoyed it. It's a little campy and hokey but so was the original. You have to suspend disbelief first and foremost and just accept that North Korea could somehow get their troops here without being blown out of the sky first, but once you do that, or once I did that, I enjoyed the performance of many of the leads, especially Thor. He anchors the film and you really believe he can lead the team to do the things they do. And I laughed out loud (because it was fun a good homage to the first) when they first stand up and shout WOLVERINES!6/10

[Master Scottb]

Anyone here see both this and the original? If so, how do they compare?

[DeeCee]

I've seen both. I would say they're fairly comparable. I suppose it would have been easier to suspend your disbelief with the premise of the 80's version(I did first watch it in the 80's and several times since) then it is with 2010-12 version. I still don't understand why they didn't just keep the invaders as the Chinese. It would have made far more sense on just practical grounds and its not as if it was ever getting released in China.The original had better character development. The new version has a more urban setting and better production values.If you enjoyed the original I'd give the new one at least one viewing.

[glassfairy]

I knew it wasn't going to be good but I was shocked by just how bad it was.

The plot.

The dialogue:

And the Godforsaken 'acting':

I must say it was the acting which got me the most. Everyone in the cast gave the worst performance I have ever seen them give (I was especially stunned by how bad Josh Peck was). This really has to be the worst thing I have seen all year! And in saying that let me add that I watched Liz and Dick and most episodes of Here Comes Honey Boo Boo.

[Squaremaster316]

I think it proves that Hemsworth cannot carry a film.

[baumer]

Hemsworth opened the film, the quality of it is not up to him.

[glassfairy]

I think it proves that Hemsworth cannot carry a film.

It really made me question his talent level which I never did before.

[Ezen Baklattan]

He's fine in The Avengers and Cabin In The Woods, but I haven't really seen him anywhere else, so I can't really say.And Glassfairy, I approve of your usage of gifs. AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHH ONE MILLION YEARS DUNGEON!!

[Kvikk Lunsj]

He is bad in Snow White, his accent is terrible. I think he a decent actor but not as good as people make him out to be.

[ladyevenstar22]

this movie is so improbable and so preposterous, at first i was wtf wtf but then i chose to laugh about it, because seriously that's the only way to swallow this movie

 

north korea of all nation invading USA lollllllllll, i'd believe russia or china in a blink of the eye before them

group of green teenagers learned to be a proficient unit in a week? to level they could take on trained army 

did the NK army woke up one morning and said hey let's invade america and everyone just went along with it bwa ha ha ha ha

 

did they invade canada? what was their goal 

 

i'm suppose to believe gun-ho trigger happy america (this is one instance where this tendency might cme in handy) just meekly bent their knee? where was the national guard reserves 

 

i'd have believe this story faster if it was aliens !!! 

 

all that aside i can't believe chris hemsworth played in this film!  either he filmed this before he became a popular actor or he figured well the economy being what it is i better grab the paycheck

Edited February 22, 2013 by ladyevenstar22

[Squaremaster316]

So glad this tanked at the box office. 

 

It also rubs egg all over the face of anyone who says that Marvel has any impact on making actors marketable.

[Goffe]

Terrible terrible in every way, they even kill the only character that I cared about and let the annoying ones alive. Fuck this dogshit. F (10)

 

better viewed as fantasy comedy

Edited November 2, 2013 by Goffe

[baumer]

So glad this tanked at the box office. 

 

It also rubs egg all over the face of anyone who says that Marvel has any impact on making actors marketable.

 

DC doesn't either.  Bale can't open a film either.

[Vanilla]

If it was not for Marvel, this would have done less then 15 million. IMO

[mattmav45]

I simply don't have much to say here.  It's a remake of a film that was already pretty damn ludicrous to begin with.

 

Infer from this what you will.

[mattmav45]

I simply don't have much to say here.  It's a remake of a film that was already pretty damn ludicrous to begin with.

 

Infer from this what you will.