whoot Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 ^ Yeah, I'd just point to Ratatouille for me. I thought the trailers were terrible, but loved the movie and it's my favorite now. And looking at those early trailers, it sure looked like they were trying to market the movie to children with the poor attempts at throwing the "humorous" parts in. So even if I did hate the trailer (which I don't; I still don't get the cynicism right now), I think I'd still be hopeful for this. I'd be more concerned about whether or not they're fixing the AICN preview issues. True, sad to say, but my faith has been shaken a bit in Pixar. They pretty much always have lame trailers though, so I perhaps this will live up to the Pixar name All those folks defending Cars 2 last year, here is exhibit A as to why I was so vehement that yes, a crap movie will affect future releases. Maybe not, but like the old adage goes, you're only as good as your last movie... Never seen so many skeptics going into a Pixar movie until this one. Not as many of those typical "...but I trust Pixar, they've never let me down before" posts this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Well, I for one trust Pixar... they haven't let me down yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoot Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Yeah lab! Same team this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 All those folks defending Cars 2 last year, here is exhibit A as to why I was so vehement that yes, a crap movie will affect future releases. Maybe not, but like the old adage goes, you're only as good as your last movie... Never seen so many skeptics going into a Pixar movie until this one. Not as many of those typical "...but I trust Pixar, they've never let me down before" posts this time around. Yeah, it is unfortunate. Even if they don't specifically mention Cars 2 they subconsciously don't hold the Pixar brand in as high esteem as they did before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 It certainly makes for a nice change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safari Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I'm certainly not worried about this, because I know that Cars 2 turned out to be a blatant cash grab and the folks at Pixar probably didn't want to do it in the first place. I can't say the same about this film and the upcoming titles. I know I was initially enthusiastic about Cars 2, because I thought Pixar could do no wrong. I gave Pixar the benefit of the doubt after 11 films, but still, I don't think one dent in the armor (I didn't think the film was awful, just average and nothing like any Pixar film) will determine the future of Pixar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem2x3 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Wall-E playing with an old bra in the middle of a junk yard looked more exciting than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem2x3 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Pixar trailers are never good, people. I disagree--Pixar trailers are usually fantastic. This was blah. Brave will probably be good, but it's not going to be UP, TI or FN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) No, they aren't. Like I said before, Toy Story's had lincoln logs, Wall-E's had "At Last". And I remember as a teen being totally uninterested in Nemo based on its teaser. Edited November 18, 2011 by tribefan695 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestofthebunch Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) All those folks defending Cars 2 last year, here is exhibit A as to why I was so vehement that yes, a crap movie will affect future releases. Maybe not, but like the old adage goes, you're only as good as your last movie... Never seen so many skeptics going into a Pixar movie until this one. Not as many of those typical "...but I trust Pixar, they've never let me down before" posts this time around. Don't know how I feel about being made an exhibit, haha but i totally know what you mean. Plus the disconcerting thing is that a movie is a huge deal....many people at all levels (and yes Lasseter himself) would have had to have been on board with Cars 2, from initial concept, story etc. While its "just" one miss, it does say something. Edited November 18, 2011 by bestofthebunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem2x3 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Pixar's last originals first trailers for reference: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem2x3 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 No, they aren't. Like I said before, Toy Story's had lincoln logs, Wall-E's had "At Last". And I remember as a teen being totally uninterested in Nemo based on its teaser. I showed up for TI as a teen w/ my future wife based purely on us remembering the super-hero who couldn't fit into his costume bit. Pixar trailers typically show fantastic and vivid characters (Brave so far shows 1) and a beautiful, fun and perilous adventure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussslic Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I disagree--Pixar trailers are usually fantastic. This was blah. Brave will probably be good, but it's not going to be UP, TI or FN. IMO Pixar teasers are usually fantastic... theatrical trailers, maybe not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) Pixar's last originals first trailers for reference: Sorry, not seeing a difference. I HATE that Wall-E trailer and the Ratatouille one is even more reliant on slapstick than Brave is. Edited November 18, 2011 by tribefan695 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestofthebunch Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Sorry, not seeing a difference. I HATE that Wall-E trailer and the Ratatouille one is even more reliant on slapstick than Brave is. Agreed about the Ratatouille one (though I still think it is better than Brave)... they both play up the kid humor, but both of them actually present a more cohesive and compelling story. Brave is just a random, largely unfollowable mishmash that goes from humorous to serious in like 1/2 a second.Could be personal preference, but it wasnt that funny to me at all, whereas Wall-E was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) It may be a retroactive thing I have regarding Wall-E's trailer. What I really hate about it is how it trivializes Eve's character, making her out to be something like a faux action girl/damsel in distress. And anyway, we're still more than six months away from Brave's release. I'm certain a more coherent trailer is in the future. I don't think it's fair to compare this to two that came out much closer to their movies' respective release dates. Edited November 18, 2011 by tribefan695 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The reason why I enjoy Pixar films is because they don't have "forced" jokes or are full of pop culture references. BRAVE will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezen Baklattan Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I'm not even gonna try to compare the quality of that trailer to the potential quality of the movie itself. It was a decent trailer, but I'm sure that it'll be a fantastic movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestofthebunch Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 And anyway, we're still more than six months away from Brave's release. I'm certain a more coherent trailer is in the future. I don't think I think that is fair enough. I'm anticipating this movie no matter what trailer comes out, but I hope you are right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK007 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Glad to see we've got most of the Pixar regulars back here. Always fun! Well, I'm going to have to agree with Whoot and tribefan. I only anticipate Pixar movies because I know that they'll be good even though I'm always skeptical. I never wanted to see the Incredibles, Cars, Ratatouille or Wall-E. Even Up's final trailer was a letdown and although right now my opinion of that movie has fallen, after my first viewing I did think it was excellent. Actually Toy Story 3's trailer was also meh. There is a lot of skepticism given that Cars 2 was their last film, but I don't know there was a lot of bad talk on Ratatouille and Wall-E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...