Plain Old Tele Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Fair enough but I can already smell the "CGI sucks" scent out of this thread... You certainly won't get that from me. CG is a tremendous, wonderful tool -- and, like every tool, can be used well or poorly depending on the artist(s) involved. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I know it's well into the age of early CG, but Tippett Studios' stop-motion work on ED-209 in ROBOCOP is just awesome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Well two of the best old school Visual effects has to go to ... The Parting of the Red Sea in the Ten Commandments. The Chariot Race in Ben Hur I just love the super wide aspect ratio, it makes the race seems so much more epic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Wasn't the chariot race mostly practical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 The chariot race was mostly practical, yes, apart from some blue-screen work. They built a complete 1:1 arena, and they really raced horses through it, and they filmed all this on 70mm cameras (camera mounted on a car which raced the course too) which was incredibly difficult, but since the rest of Ben Hur was in 70mm too they decided to go for a consistent look. I guess when it comes to set-building, BenHur still could qualify as having the hugest sets ever, but concerning SFX, there's mainly the sea battle that I remember, apart from the matte work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vc2002 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Planet of the Apes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Troll 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Avatar..... Wait, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vc2002 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) .... Wait, what? Dont you know that Avatar was made by practical effects? Cameron really went to another planet to shot the movie you dont know that? Edited March 11, 2013 by vc2002 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Oh, of course. I didn't even think of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Oh, of course. I didn't even think of that.Where have been? He went to another planet and those blue cat aliens are really aliens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Ben Hur was not Visual effects but when I watched the film with my mom and dad and sister they all said... Looks good but its easy to do with computers. I said they were real horses... They would not believe me... Lol Hollywood can't do scenes like those as it requires way to much risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wadey Wilsoney Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Ben Hur was not Visual effects but when I watched the film with my mom and dad and sister they all said... Looks good but its easy to do with computers. I said they were real horses... They would not believe me... Lol Hollywood can't do scenes like those as it requires way to much risk. I'm curious what Ben Hur's budget would have been had they made it today in the exact same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 There was a reason Ben Hur was shot in Italy and it wasn't the wine. Ben Hur would be like a major tentpole production today, say in the 200mil US$ range. Remember that there was nearly no starpower in Ben Hur, so an obvious modern example with lots of stunts, giant sets, horses and month-long shooting schedule would be the Lord of the Rings films. Or Gladiator. Both of which weren't shot in Hollywood either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Wasn't a fair amount of the impressive stuff in Independence Day actually not CGI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 They made all the sets and I think someone died during the charriot race. Or is that an urban Myth?? Another tale is that a scene in the charriot race where the stuntsman rides over a bump and almost falls off, that the person almost literally fell off and almost got crushed to death. They kept that scene in and people were taken a back at the realism lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben-Hur_%281959_film%29#Myths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Oh wow. There was another myth that the scene were the guard is run over was real and such... Its a legendary scene so a lot of myth and lore about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 The shooting of the chariot race doesn't need myths or rumours, it's an outstanding feat in cinematography and set-building completely on its own. The dimensions of the enterprise are truly mindboggling. And they built a 2nd racecourse, just to set up the angles and train the horses ... btw, just re-read the wiki entry - I didn't know until today that Sergio Leone was assistant director on the chariot race sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...