Joel M Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 On 27/1/2017 at 1:54 AM, trifle said: and that is despite theater drops, and not even looking at international numbers, which are better. http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Passengers-(2016)#tab=box-office The 95% of the films that fall within the shaded area I'm pretty sure includes exactly 0% of movies released over Christmas holidays. Check out Sing's graph. That movie's expected range was def not 100-150m after its opening. Domestic Box Office PerformanceDec 22, 2016Dec 29, 2016Jan 5, 2017Jan 12, 2017Jan 19, 2017$0$75,000,000$150,000,000$225,000,000$300,000,000 Chart Date values Dec 21, 2016 $11,010,175 Dec 22, 2016 $20,612,640 Dec 23, 2016 $33,579,450 Dec 24, 2016 $41,494,485 Dec 25, 2016 $55,870,785 Dec 26, 2016 $75,544,270 Dec 27, 2016 $93,059,795 Dec 28, 2016 $108,561,635 Dec 29, 2016 $123,601,490 Dec 30, 2016 $140,522,140 Dec 31, 2016 $152,853,995 Jan 1, 2017 $166,497,820 Jan 2, 2017 $180,891,910 Jan 3, 2017 $187,037,310 Jan 4, 2017 $190,647,960 Jan 5, 2017 $193,799,645 Jan 6, 2017 $199,000,185 Jan 7, 2017 $208,104,870 Jan 8, 2017 $214,512,010 Jan 9, 2017 $215,680,270 Jan 10, 2017 $217,358,500 Jan 11, 2017 $218,317,405 Jan 12, 2017 $219,215,520 Jan 13, 2017 $222,180,370 Jan 14, 2017 $228,460,075 Jan 15, 2017 $233,455,900 Jan 16, 2017 $238,240,880 Jan 17, 2017 $239,243,530 Jan 18, 2017 $239,786,365 Jan 19, 2017 $240,325,195 Jan 20, 2017 $242,211,150 Jan 21, 2017 $246,678,630 Jan 22, 2017 $249,328,975 Jan 23, 2017 $249,805,720 Jan 24, 2017 $250,431,160 Jan 25, 2017 $250,819,785 Jan 26, 2017 $251,191,375 Jan 27, 2017 $252,491,375 Passengers legs are pretty average. Not great, not terrible. Pretty much like every aspect of its BO run both Dom and OS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Joel M said: The 95% of the films that fall within the shaded area I'm pretty sure includes exactly 0% of movies released over Christmas holidays. Check out Sing's graph. That movie's expected range was def not 100-150m after its opening. Domestic Box Office PerformanceDec 22, 2016Dec 29, 2016Jan 5, 2017Jan 12, 2017Jan 19, 2017$0$75,000,000$150,000,000$225,000,000$300,000,000 Chart Date values Dec 21, 2016 $11,010,175 Dec 22, 2016 $20,612,640 Dec 23, 2016 $33,579,450 Dec 24, 2016 $41,494,485 Dec 25, 2016 $55,870,785 Dec 26, 2016 $75,544,270 Dec 27, 2016 $93,059,795 Dec 28, 2016 $108,561,635 Dec 29, 2016 $123,601,490 Dec 30, 2016 $140,522,140 Dec 31, 2016 $152,853,995 Jan 1, 2017 $166,497,820 Jan 2, 2017 $180,891,910 Jan 3, 2017 $187,037,310 Jan 4, 2017 $190,647,960 Jan 5, 2017 $193,799,645 Jan 6, 2017 $199,000,185 Jan 7, 2017 $208,104,870 Jan 8, 2017 $214,512,010 Jan 9, 2017 $215,680,270 Jan 10, 2017 $217,358,500 Jan 11, 2017 $218,317,405 Jan 12, 2017 $219,215,520 Jan 13, 2017 $222,180,370 Jan 14, 2017 $228,460,075 Jan 15, 2017 $233,455,900 Jan 16, 2017 $238,240,880 Jan 17, 2017 $239,243,530 Jan 18, 2017 $239,786,365 Jan 19, 2017 $240,325,195 Jan 20, 2017 $242,211,150 Jan 21, 2017 $246,678,630 Jan 22, 2017 $249,328,975 Jan 23, 2017 $249,805,720 Jan 24, 2017 $250,431,160 Jan 25, 2017 $250,819,785 Jan 26, 2017 $251,191,375 Jan 27, 2017 $252,491,375 Passengers legs are pretty average. Not great, not terrible. Pretty much like every aspect of its BO run both Dom and OS. Sing also did particularly well. You would have to compare Passengers to a movie that had average legs to be persuasive that Passengers' legs weren't good, imho. Sing isn't exactly average, plus children's movies tend to have particularly strong legs, particularly during the holidays, don't they? For Passengers to have legs similar to those of Sing seems a fairly big deal to me, particularly given how it was pilloried in reviews. Given how it was attacked, for it to even to have average legs would be something of a win, but above 95% of films seems good to me. Granted, films act differently in the holidays, but more than 5% of films have part of their run over the holidays, I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel M Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Just now, trifle said: Given how it was attacked, for it to even to have average legs would be something of a win, but above 95% of films seems good to me. Granted, films act differently in the holidays, but more than 5% of films have part of their run over the holidays, I would think. I don't disagree with that at all. Personally after the reviews and OD number I expected it to bomb and fall way short of 100m. I'm just saying that this graph is useless to assess the legs of Christmas movies. It only works for movies outside the holidays. Passengers is technically gone have a better multiplier than Arrival, but it didn't have better legs, it had 12 days of holidays as its first 2 weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trifle Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Pure speculation, but I like the idea: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTJeff Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 IMHO, a lot of commentators and analysts were trying to insult Lawrence by how much she got paid here (more than Pratt) and pointing out the BO results. I think Lawrence and Pratt undeniably have some strong international box office appeal, hence the strong overseas performance. If this was a $150 million movie, OK maybe, but it wasn't. It was less than that. I'm not sure how profitable the movie turns out, but you can't call this a complete and total bomb. Even Ghostbusters didn't do this well overseas. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 still more set stills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 The trades, especially Deadline, couldn't fathom the idea that the actress with a vagina got paid more than the one with a dick. I remember Deadline calling Passengers " Pricey" in a world of 150-250m+ blockbusters. Sure, Jan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Futurist said: The trades, especially Deadline, couldn't fathom the idea that the actress with a vagina got paid more than the one with a dick. I remember Deadline calling Passengers " Pricey" in a world of 150-250m+ blockbusters. Sure, Jan. And Passengers was 110, with stingy marketing. A single trailer 3 months before opening, a single poster, a press tour and some TV ads. But it is a fact that you don't get these kind of 'was he worth his salary' comment in the entirely typical situation where the actor was paid more. In any event, without these stars, the critical reception this original movie got would have buried it without possible profit, so the extra 10-15M to get them was well spent. Edited January 30, 2017 by trifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Can't wait for Tom Rothman's next interview. Gonna be glorious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 It turns out that the official Passengers Movie twitter account finally did mention that it had two Oscar nominations, I just missed it. Regarding the Production Design nomination, if you watch the clip, it shows a single set but it applies to all of the sets - they didn't just create a small part of a scene and green screen the rest. They had to take down a wall between two soundstages to make the grand concourse, it was so big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Someone in the Box Office Buzz thread said this is coming back to theaters in his area this weekend. It isn't, near me, but it might be near other people who want to see it, or want to see it again, or want to see why it was on the short list for the VFX Oscar (it was in the Oscar reel but wasn't nominated), and why it was nominated for best production design! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straggler Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 7 hours ago, trifle said: Someone in the Box Office Buzz thread said this is coming back to theaters in his area this weekend. It isn't, near me, but it might be near other people who want to see it, or want to see it again, or want to see why it was on the short list for the VFX Oscar (it was in the Oscar reel but wasn't nominated), and why it was nominated for best production design! I definitely got the idea that the flood of releases pushed it out of theaters prematurely. It was actually holding pretty well, just losing screens too quickly to make way for other films. It made over 900K this past weekend on 620 screens. A few hundred more screens wouldn't hurt. I think it still has some legs yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 36 minutes ago, straggler said: I definitely got the idea that the flood of releases pushed it out of theaters prematurely. It was actually holding pretty well, just losing screens too quickly to make way for other films. It made over 900K this past weekend on 620 screens. A few hundred more screens wouldn't hurt. I think it still has some legs yet. Assuming people realize it is back in theaters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Theaters near me have updated their weekend schedules and it is back here! Not in the Arclights or the Cinemark Tele turned me onto, but still, it's around, again, at least! Edited February 2, 2017 by trifle 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amelin Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just found some details on the ship that I'm pretty sure I (somehow) haven't seen before. I love this! A well deserved nomination indeed. https://www.wired.com/2016/12/seeds-inspired-swooping-starship-passengers/#slide-1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A District 3 Engineer Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Increased to 1104 theaters this week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babz06 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 18 minutes ago, A District 3 Engineer said: Increased to 1104 theaters this week. Wouldn't it make more sense to expand for Valentine's Weekend? I don't understand the rationale here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amelin Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, babz06 said: Wouldn't it make more sense to expand for Valentine's Weekend? I don't understand the rationale here. That's what I figured too, but maybe they want to try to get what they can before Fifty Shades opens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babz06 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, amelin said: That's what I figured too, but maybe they want to try to get what they can before Fifty Shades opens? I guess but it seems like a missed opportunity to get those extra date night tickets for people who didnt catch Passengers over Christmas or crowded January. Superbowl weekend is traditionally not a big movie-going weekend. But Sony doesn't have the best business decisions so i shouldn't be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...