Passengers | Chris Pratt, Jennifer Lawrence | Dec 21, 2016 | Trailer pg 70

[Joel M]

On 27/1/2017 at 1:54 AM, trifle said:

 

and that is despite theater drops, and not even looking at international numbers, which are better.

 

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Passengers-(2016)#tab=box-office

 

 

 

 

The 95% of the films that fall within the shaded area I'm pretty sure includes exactly 0% of movies released over Christmas holidays. Check out Sing's graph. That movie's expected range was def not 100-150m after its opening. 

 

Chart Date	values
Dec 21, 2016	$11,010,175
Dec 22, 2016	$20,612,640
Dec 23, 2016	$33,579,450
Dec 24, 2016	$41,494,485
Dec 25, 2016	$55,870,785
Dec 26, 2016	$75,544,270
Dec 27, 2016	$93,059,795
Dec 28, 2016	$108,561,635
Dec 29, 2016	$123,601,490
Dec 30, 2016	$140,522,140
Dec 31, 2016	$152,853,995
Jan 1, 2017	$166,497,820
Jan 2, 2017	$180,891,910
Jan 3, 2017	$187,037,310
Jan 4, 2017	$190,647,960
Jan 5, 2017	$193,799,645
Jan 6, 2017	$199,000,185
Jan 7, 2017	$208,104,870
Jan 8, 2017	$214,512,010
Jan 9, 2017	$215,680,270
Jan 10, 2017	$217,358,500
Jan 11, 2017	$218,317,405
Jan 12, 2017	$219,215,520
Jan 13, 2017	$222,180,370
Jan 14, 2017	$228,460,075
Jan 15, 2017	$233,455,900
Jan 16, 2017	$238,240,880
Jan 17, 2017	$239,243,530
Jan 18, 2017	$239,786,365
Jan 19, 2017	$240,325,195
Jan 20, 2017	$242,211,150
Jan 21, 2017	$246,678,630
Jan 22, 2017	$249,328,975
Jan 23, 2017	$249,805,720
Jan 24, 2017	$250,431,160
Jan 25, 2017	$250,819,785
Jan 26, 2017	$251,191,375
Jan 27, 2017	$252,491,375

 

 

 

Passengers legs are pretty average. Not great, not terrible. Pretty much like every aspect of its BO run both Dom and OS.

[trifle]

3 minutes ago, Joel M said:

 

The 95% of the films that fall within the shaded area I'm pretty sure includes exactly 0% of movies released over Christmas holidays. Check out Sing's graph. That movie's expected range was def not 100-150m after its opening. 

 

Chart Date	values
Dec 21, 2016	$11,010,175
Dec 22, 2016	$20,612,640
Dec 23, 2016	$33,579,450
Dec 24, 2016	$41,494,485
Dec 25, 2016	$55,870,785
Dec 26, 2016	$75,544,270
Dec 27, 2016	$93,059,795
Dec 28, 2016	$108,561,635
Dec 29, 2016	$123,601,490
Dec 30, 2016	$140,522,140
Dec 31, 2016	$152,853,995
Jan 1, 2017	$166,497,820
Jan 2, 2017	$180,891,910
Jan 3, 2017	$187,037,310
Jan 4, 2017	$190,647,960
Jan 5, 2017	$193,799,645
Jan 6, 2017	$199,000,185
Jan 7, 2017	$208,104,870
Jan 8, 2017	$214,512,010
Jan 9, 2017	$215,680,270
Jan 10, 2017	$217,358,500
Jan 11, 2017	$218,317,405
Jan 12, 2017	$219,215,520
Jan 13, 2017	$222,180,370
Jan 14, 2017	$228,460,075
Jan 15, 2017	$233,455,900
Jan 16, 2017	$238,240,880
Jan 17, 2017	$239,243,530
Jan 18, 2017	$239,786,365
Jan 19, 2017	$240,325,195
Jan 20, 2017	$242,211,150
Jan 21, 2017	$246,678,630
Jan 22, 2017	$249,328,975
Jan 23, 2017	$249,805,720
Jan 24, 2017	$250,431,160
Jan 25, 2017	$250,819,785
Jan 26, 2017	$251,191,375
Jan 27, 2017	$252,491,375

 

 

 

Passengers legs are pretty average. Not great, not terrible. Pretty much like every aspect of its BO run both Dom and OS.

 

Sing also did particularly well. You would have to compare Passengers to a movie that had average legs to be persuasive that Passengers' legs weren't good, imho.  Sing isn't exactly average, plus children's movies tend to have particularly strong legs, particularly during the holidays, don't they?  For Passengers to have legs similar to those of Sing seems a fairly big deal to me, particularly given how it was pilloried in reviews.  Given how it was attacked, for it to even to have average legs would be something of a win, but above 95% of films seems good to me. Granted, films act differently in the holidays, but more than 5% of films have part of their run over the holidays, I would think.

[Joel M]

Just now, trifle said:

Given how it was attacked, for it to even to have average legs would be something of a win,  but above 95% of films seems good to me. Granted, films act differently in the holidays, but more than 5% of films have part of their run over the holidays, I would think.

 

I don't disagree with that at all. Personally after the reviews and OD number I expected it to bomb and fall way short of 100m. I'm just saying that this graph is useless to assess the legs of Christmas movies. It only works for movies outside the holidays. Passengers is technically gone have a better multiplier than Arrival, but it didn't have better legs, it had 12 days of holidays as its first 2 weeks.

[trifle]

 

 

 

[trifle]

Pure speculation, but I like the idea:

 

 

[UTJeff]

IMHO, a lot of commentators and analysts were trying to insult Lawrence by how much she got paid here (more than Pratt) and pointing out the BO results.  I think Lawrence and Pratt undeniably have some strong international box office appeal, hence the strong overseas performance.  If this was a $150 million movie, OK maybe, but it wasn't.  It was less than that.  

 

I'm not sure how profitable the movie turns out, but you can't call this a complete and total bomb.  Even Ghostbusters didn't do this well overseas.

[trifle]

still more set stills

 

 

[The Futurist]

The trades, especially Deadline, couldn't fathom the idea that the actress with a vagina got paid more than the one with a dick.

 

I remember Deadline calling Passengers " Pricey" in a world of 150-250m+  blockbusters.

 

Sure, Jan.

 

 

[trifle]

5 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

The trades, especially Deadline, couldn't fathom the idea that the actress with a vagina got paid more than the one with a dick.

 

I remember Deadline calling Passengers " Pricey" in a world of 150-250m+  blockbusters.

 

Sure, Jan.

 

 

And Passengers was 110, with stingy marketing.  A single trailer 3 months before opening, a single poster, a press tour and some TV ads.  But it is a fact that you don't get these kind of 'was he worth his salary' comment in the entirely typical situation where the actor was paid more.  In any event, without these stars, the critical reception this original movie got would have buried it without possible profit, so the extra 10-15M to get them was well spent.

Edited January 30, 2017 by trifle

[The Futurist]

Can't wait for Tom Rothman's next interview.

 

Gonna be glorious.

 

 

[trifle]

It turns out that the official Passengers Movie twitter account finally did mention that it had two Oscar nominations, I just missed it. 

Regarding the Production Design nomination, if you watch the clip, it shows a single set but it applies to all of the sets - they didn't just create a small part of a scene and green screen the rest.  They had to take down a wall between two soundstages to make the grand concourse, it was so big.

 

 

[trifle]

Someone in the Box Office Buzz thread said this is coming back to theaters in his area this weekend.  It isn't, near me, but it might be near other people who want to see it, or want to see it again, or want to see why it was on the short list for the VFX Oscar (it was in the Oscar reel but wasn't nominated), and why it was nominated for best production design!

 

 

[straggler]

7 hours ago, trifle said:

Someone in the Box Office Buzz thread said this is coming back to theaters in his area this weekend.  It isn't, near me, but it might be near other people who want to see it, or want to see it again, or want to see why it was on the short list for the VFX Oscar (it was in the Oscar reel but wasn't nominated), and why it was nominated for best production design!

 

 

I definitely got the idea that the flood of releases pushed it out of theaters prematurely. It was actually holding pretty well, just losing screens too quickly to make way for other films. It made over 900K this past weekend on 620 screens. A few hundred more screens wouldn't hurt. I think it still has some legs yet.  

[trifle]

36 minutes ago, straggler said:

I definitely got the idea that the flood of releases pushed it out of theaters prematurely. It was actually holding pretty well, just losing screens too quickly to make way for other films. It made over 900K this past weekend on 620 screens. A few hundred more screens wouldn't hurt. I think it still has some legs yet.  

 

Assuming people realize it is back in theaters... 

[trifle]

Theaters near me have updated their weekend schedules and it is back here! Not in the Arclights or the Cinemark Tele turned me onto, but still, it's around, again, at least!

 

 

Edited February 2, 2017 by trifle

[amelin]

Just found some details on the ship that I'm pretty sure I (somehow) haven't seen before. I love this! A well deserved nomination indeed.

 

  

 

https://www.wired.com/2016/12/seeds-inspired-swooping-starship-passengers/#slide-1

 

 

[A District 3 Engineer]

Increased to 1104 theaters this week. 

[babz06]

18 minutes ago, A District 3 Engineer said:

Increased to 1104 theaters this week. 

Wouldn't it make more sense to expand for Valentine's Weekend? I don't understand the rationale here.

[amelin]

1 minute ago, babz06 said:

Wouldn't it make more sense to expand for Valentine's Weekend? I don't understand the rationale here.

 

That's what I figured too, but maybe they want to try to get what they can before Fifty Shades opens?

[babz06]

5 minutes ago, amelin said:

 

That's what I figured too, but maybe they want to try to get what they can before Fifty Shades opens?

I guess but it seems like a missed opportunity to get those extra date night tickets for people who didnt catch Passengers over Christmas or crowded January. Superbowl weekend is traditionally not a big movie-going weekend. But Sony doesn't have the best business decisions so i shouldn't be surprised.