Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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Wednesday Numbers | 13.8 M THG: MOCKINGJAY II | 9.8 M THE GOOD DINOSAUR | 6.0 M CREED

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I know, at least, at my theatre, the rules on outside food aren't always set in stone, but there are of course, some rules. It usually depends on the usher, but outside food isn't allowed. There's a little caesar's pizza in the same complex as the theatre, so we don't just let people carry in a box of pizza at first. Alcohol is obviously a no-no, but considering we don't sell coffee at concession, and people usually want coffee, we allow any Tim Hortons drinks (and Booster Juice smoothies). Any nuts (other than nut products we sell at concession are usually not allowed) but for example, if some 5 year old girl comes in with a little kit-kat bar in her hand, we won't take it away from her. If it's an older kid or an adult, we dont always go after candy, but usually with food we ask them to give it to us, and we say we can give it back to them after the movie if they want. But yea, most of the time, outside food is of course advised against.

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2 hours ago, baumer said:

So if Creed only does 7.5 today, if it were to follow Life of Pi (only other adult themed film I can think of to compare it to ) then it would do something like 

 

7.5

8.5

16.5

15

9

 

56.5 mill for the 5 day.  And with LIP's legs, it would clear 150 mill.  

It will probably be a bit more frontloaded because it's a franchise. So i wouldn't predict legs as good as Life of Pi. 

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FANTASTIC numbers for Creed, in all seriousness, I think it's one of the biggest surprises of the year.  This could have went so, so wrong.

 

I think the jury's still out on TGD until we see this week's numbers but it seemed to be fighting an uphill battle with the constant delays, good to pretty good reviews (below par for a Pixar) and following what many consider to be Pixar's strongest outing yet.  I'm still super stoked to see it so I hope it does well. 

 

Surprisingly good for MJ as well, I felt like it really was showing signs of having a huge drop off from Part 1 after the OW.  

 

Lololol at Victor Frankestein.  If this had to be a movie that came out, it should have come out in January.

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I'm not sure why I predicted Victor Frankenstein to outgross The Last Witch Hunter in the winter game.

 

Common sense says Vin is a bigger draw than Radcliffe when it comes to smaller films.

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These are not estimates just probably very good predictions. Real numbers will come in a few hours. Go Creed, go!!!

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19 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

I'm not sure why I predicted Victor Frankenstein to outgross The Last Witch Hunter in the winter game.

 

Common sense says Vin is a bigger draw than Radcliffe when it comes to smaller films.

Same, at least I was pretty spot on with Witch Hunter (predicted 25M)

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19 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

I wonder how much Creed needs WW for a sequel.

 

 

 

I assume the budget wasn't that high, think $35m so it probably only needs domestic to break $100m or more and OS is just gravy. It's not released in many places until January but I assume WB and MGM aren't expecting blockbuster numbers.

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Ugh, those numbers aren't good for TGD at all. That would imply it was heavily frontloaded, unless THR is intentionally underplaying it.

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Holy crap. Creed is spectacular, the character work is amazing for all characters, the way it is filmed especially the real time fight is awesome and Stallone would be a deserving nominee if he gets it. The use of the musical cues is genius specifically before the finale of the final fight.

 

Great movie, 9/10 easy.

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28 minutes ago, Daniel Dylan Davis said:

Ugh, those numbers aren't good for TGD at all. That would imply it was heavily frontloaded, unless THR is intentionally underplaying it.

 

With IO being so good, the Pixar fans were even more excited that usual for this one I guess, inflating the previews. I hope it crosses 10m.

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Creed is phenomenal.  It's such a good story and Stallone and Jordan kill it.  There's a part near the end when the Rocky theme plays and I had to force myself not to get up and cheer.  

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9 minutes ago, a2knet said:

 

With IO being so good, the Pixar fans were even more excited that usual for this one I guess, inflating the previews. I hope it crosses 10m.

 

Well, Hollywood Reporter was also being conservative with IO's Friday numbers originally, not that I'm expecting this to blow up like that film did, but still, it's something to note.

 

Either way if that number sticks than Pixar may be taking their first write-up on a film. Damn!

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5 minutes ago, baumer said:

Creed is phenomenal.  It's such a good story and Stallone and Jordan kill it.  There's a part near the end when the Rocky theme plays and I had to force myself not to get up and cheer.  

 

Did it make your top 3 Rocky movies?

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I don't like these numbers for TGD, under $10 is a bad number (especially considering that it has $1,3 in previews), I hope the number go up, but this is a bad new

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2 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

 

Did it make your top 3 Rocky movies?

 

That's hard.  I think the best Rocky is the first but Rocky Balboa is a very very close second.  And then to be honest, with the exception of the fifth, every other Rocky is incredible.  So to say this is better than four or two or whatever, is tough.  But I gave it a 9.5/10.  No Rocky outside of 5 is lower than that.

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23 minutes ago, baumer said:

Creed is phenomenal.  It's such a good story and Stallone and Jordan kill it.  There's a part near the end when the Rocky theme plays and I had to force myself not to get up and cheer.  

When that happened, my first thought was "Baumer must be giving this a standing ovation."

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3 minutes ago, grim22 said:

When that happened, my first thought was Baumer must be giving this a standing ovation.

 

LOL, glad you thought of me.  But you know what I mean, right?  You'rte waiting the entire movie to hear the theme and then when you do, it's just an emotionally galvanizing moment.

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28 minutes ago, baumer said:

Creed is phenomenal.  It's such a good story and Stallone and Jordan kill it.  There's a part near the end when the Rocky theme plays and I had to force myself not to get up and cheer.  

At my screening half the crowd literally stood up and cheered at that moment. The perfect use of an iconic theme. Quite possibly the most engaged crowd I've ever seen a movie with. Glad you enjoyed it so much!

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