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On 8/17/2017 at 7:36 PM, POTUS said:

PS finally on the move. BD went fron 25 to 50 to 66% of Val pretty quick.  

Val     1.00m

Bd        .66m

C3        .34m

Can make guestimate tomorrow

 

Val        1.7m

BD        1.27

C3           .52

Early projection. Could shift a bit. C3 could ramp up steeper at the end

Val 50-60m OD     $25-30m OW

BD  40-50m OD     $20-25m OW

C3   20-25m OD    $15m OW

 

Assume total at 2- 2.2x OW unless WoM catches on

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, POTUS said:

Val        1.7m

BD        1.27

C3           .52

Early projection. Could shift a bit. C3 could ramp up steeper at the end

Val 50-60m OD     $25-30m OW

BD  40-50m OD     $20-25m OW

C3   20-25m OD    $15m OW

 

Assume total at 2- 2.2x OW unless WoM catches on

 

 

 

 

So Valerian should do 50-60M total in China? (US currency)

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1 hour ago, Hiccup23 said:

 

So Valerian should do 50-60M total in China? (US currency)

Still not good at all. I think BD has a good chance of beating it this weekend and ending with a better total. It really is Jupiter Ascending 2.0 but worse at the boxoffice. JA did 44+M in China.

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1 hour ago, marveldcfox said:

Still not good at all. I think BD has a good chance of beating it this weekend and ending with a better total. It really is Jupiter Ascending 2.0 but worse at the boxoffice. JA did 44+M in China.

Presales for Valerian are between 25% and 50% better than those for BD on each day of the week end.... Valerian will end at 40m$ in France and is doing great in Russia and in Germany.

The Budget of the film if you take off tax optimisation in France is more around 150m$ and the film will end around 250m$ worldwide.

 

Not a success but also not the failure of the century.

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2 hours ago, marveldcfox said:

Still not good at all. I think BD has a good chance of beating it this weekend and ending with a better total. It really is Jupiter Ascending 2.0 but worse at the boxoffice. JA did 44+M in China.

Yup. BD continues to gain and now has a better revenue % to show% ratio .  Its only behind because it started a day later and hasnt recieved as many shows.  It might be neck and neck in a couple of days

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1 hour ago, Nicoco said:

Presales for Valerian are between 25% and 50% better than those for BD on each day of the week end.... Valerian will end at 40m$ in France and is doing great in Russia and in Germany.

The Budget of the film if you take off tax optimisation in France is more around 150m$ and the film will end around 250m$ worldwide.

 

Not a success but also not the failure of the century.

Luc said this movie has to do as much as Lucy to be considered a hit considering the way its funded. 

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5 minutes ago, marveldcfox said:

Luc said this movie has to do as much as Lucy to be considered a hit considering the way its funded. 

Luc said that 90% of the budget is covered by international presales to distributor and tax credit from the french state (more than 20m$). Europacorp is only distributor in France were the film will be in the yearly top 5 at the end of the week. So Europacorp will make money on the movie as his financial risk exposure counts only in France.

 

The risk for Luc Besson and Europacorp is not financial but reputational. But when you earned 450m $ with Lucy (40m budget) you are probably not happy with a total gross of 250m$ from a movie like Valerian. They had probably the intention to launch a new franchise after "Taken", "The Transporter" and Lucy and this will not happen.

 

 

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On 8/18/2017 at 7:57 PM, POTUS said:

Val        1.7m

BD        1.27

C3           .52

Early projection. Could shift a bit. C3 could ramp up steeper at the end

Val 50-60m OD     $25-30m OW

BD  40-50m OD     $20-25m OW

C3   20-25m OD    $15m OW

 

Assume total at 2- 2.2x OW unless WoM catches on

 

 

 

If BD opens that high, it may cross $100M overseas by next Sunday!!!!!!!!!!! #Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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2 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Dunkirk is quite strong out of the block. Already at 1.7m PS for OD. If its not skewed by strong nolan fan base, I am thinking 100m+ OD will happen. May be even 400m OW and then finish around 700m. 

1.7m is where kong was on Monday 10 days out.

Kong reached 37m PS.  150m OD  501m OW. 

Kong PS went up 20-25% daily thru Sunday. Then 30% 40% 50% 75%

Dunkirk 1B?   :jeb!:

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8 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Dunkirk is quite strong out of the block. Already at 1.7m PS for OD. If its not skewed by strong nolan fan base, I am thinking 100m+ OD will happen. May be even 400m OW and then finish around 700m. 

Wow unexpectedly strong, I'm thinking around $50mil only. Anything above that is great for me. Thanks for the info.

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On 8/19/2017 at 2:57 AM, POTUS said:

Val        1.7m

BD        1.27

C3           .52

Early projection. Could shift a bit. C3 could ramp up steeper at the end

Val 50-60m OD     $25-30m OW

BD  40-50m OD     $20-25m OW

C3   20-25m OD    $15m OW

 

Assume total at 2- 2.2x OW unless WoM catches on

 

 

 

Val still looking at $25-30m OW

BD PS slowed $18-20m

C3 $13-15m

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SM going up 40% today to 2.6m. Strong like Kong. Give it another day or 2 to see if it'll go up 15% daily or 22% thru monday

low end 23m PS 88m OD. 300m OW 600m/$90m Tot

high end 32m PS  120m OD 400m OW 800m/$125m tot

As usual much higher is always possible OD/OW/Tot with hot WoM.

 

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