Ghost in the Shell | March 31, 2017 | Scarlett Johansson | Paramount | New Trailer on page 43!!!

[Arlborn]

2 hours ago, Barnack said:

 

Besson is really big in some market (maybe not in the US but rest of the world), France obviously, but in general too.

 

Besson Metrics:

 

Awareness

Besson, Luc	Australia	0.180849332
Besson, Luc	France	0.968872946
Besson, Luc	Germany	0.362329239
Besson, Luc	Italy	0.654758383
Besson, Luc	Japan	0.502950956
Besson, Luc	Korea
Besson, Luc	Mexico	0.179574256
Besson, Luc	Russia
Besson, Luc	Spain	0.224935617
Besson, Luc	UK	0.338783984
Besson, Luc	Int'l Average	0.426631839

 

Popularity (among aware):

Australia	0.362337981
France	0.590722757
Germany	0.465609602
Italy	0.559697505
Japan	0.347919474
Korea
Mexico	0.544469391
Russia
Spain	0.366082827
UK	0.420014168
Int'l Average	0.457106713

 

Peter Jackson for a comparison, metric are not that higher

 

Awareness

Jackson, Peter	Australia	0.618320611
Jackson, Peter	France	0.483317445
Jackson, Peter	Germany	0.428706327
Jackson, Peter	Italy	0.435727788
Jackson, Peter	Japan	0.25815739
Jackson, Peter	Korea
Jackson, Peter	Mexico	0.368876081
Jackson, Peter	Russia
Jackson, Peter	Spain	0.541044776
Jackson, Peter	UK	0.540935673
Jackson, Peter	Int'l Average	0.459385761

 

Popularity (among aware):

Jackson, Peter	Australia	0.575617284
Jackson, Peter	France	0.370808679
Jackson, Peter	Germany	0.526431718
Jackson, Peter	Italy	0.501084599
Jackson, Peter	Japan	0.226765799
Jackson, Peter	Korea
Jackson, Peter	Mexico	0.5703125
Jackson, Peter	Russia
Jackson, Peter	Spain	0.527586207
Jackson, Peter	UK	0.538738739
Jackson, Peter	Int'l Average	0.479668191

 

It is not a coincidence he was given one of the biggest budget of all time for a non-american with Valerian.

 

 

 

That movie is gonna rock. Besson

[lilmac]

I'll be bullish with the OW:

 

$45/$118

[lilmac]

What a packed month!

 

1.Logan

2.Kong

3.BatB,

4.Chips/Life/Power Rangers,

5.Ghost in the Shell

[Belakor]

This movie will be the surprise of the spring, looks very good.

[eXtacy]

Think the Tokyo premiere for this movie is tonight. Hopefully we get some reactions.

[Valonqar]

9 hours ago, Belakor said:

This movie will be the surprise of the spring

 

LOL, after GO no spring movie is going to be a surprise, especially not a franchise movie with an A List star. Did better than expected is maximum it can get. Surprise = nobody saw it coming. 

 

Twitter reactions will be business as usual - best movie ever, better than anime, etc. I do expect better reviews than BatB. 

Edited March 16, 2017 by Valonqar

[eddyxx]

On 3/6/2017 at 3:13 PM, IronJimbo said:

ghost in taco bell

Take it back to 4chan. ScarJo looks great.

[Goffe]

14 hours ago, Barnack said:

 

Besson is really big in some market (maybe not in the US but rest of the world), France obviously, but in general too.

 

Besson Metrics:

 

Awareness

Besson, Luc	Australia	0.180849332
Besson, Luc	France	0.968872946
Besson, Luc	Germany	0.362329239
Besson, Luc	Italy	0.654758383
Besson, Luc	Japan	0.502950956
Besson, Luc	Korea
Besson, Luc	Mexico	0.179574256
Besson, Luc	Russia
Besson, Luc	Spain	0.224935617
Besson, Luc	UK	0.338783984
Besson, Luc	Int'l Average	0.426631839

 

Popularity (among aware):

Australia	0.362337981
France	0.590722757
Germany	0.465609602
Italy	0.559697505
Japan	0.347919474
Korea
Mexico	0.544469391
Russia
Spain	0.366082827
UK	0.420014168
Int'l Average	0.457106713

 

Peter Jackson for a comparison, metric are not that higher

 

Awareness

Jackson, Peter	Australia	0.618320611
Jackson, Peter	France	0.483317445
Jackson, Peter	Germany	0.428706327
Jackson, Peter	Italy	0.435727788
Jackson, Peter	Japan	0.25815739
Jackson, Peter	Korea
Jackson, Peter	Mexico	0.368876081
Jackson, Peter	Russia
Jackson, Peter	Spain	0.541044776
Jackson, Peter	UK	0.540935673
Jackson, Peter	Int'l Average	0.459385761

 

Popularity (among aware):

Jackson, Peter	Australia	0.575617284
Jackson, Peter	France	0.370808679
Jackson, Peter	Germany	0.526431718
Jackson, Peter	Italy	0.501084599
Jackson, Peter	Japan	0.226765799
Jackson, Peter	Korea
Jackson, Peter	Mexico	0.5703125
Jackson, Peter	Russia
Jackson, Peter	Spain	0.527586207
Jackson, Peter	UK	0.538738739
Jackson, Peter	Int'l Average	0.479668191

 

It is not a coincidence he was given one of the biggest budget of all time for a non-american movie with Valerian.

 

 

 

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I don't know what any of this means, which source is this from or how trustworthy it is is. 

 

Here's a better metric.

 

Title (click to view)	Studio	Worldwide	Domestic / %		Overseas / %		Year
Lucy	Uni.	$463.4	$126.7	27.3%	$336.7	72.7%	2014
The Fifth Element	Sony	$263.9	$63.8	24.2%	$200.1	75.8%	1997
Arthur and the Invisibles	MGM/W	$107.9	$15.1	14%	$92.8	86%	2006
The Family (2013)	Rela.	$78.4	$36.9	47.1%	$41.5	52.9%	2013
The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc	Sony	$67.0	$14.3	21.3%	$52.7	78.7%	1999
Angel-A	SPC	$10.0	$203k	2%	$9.8	98%	2007
The Lady	Cohen	$3.8	$355k	9.5%	$3.4	90.5%	2012

Date	Title (click to view)	Studio	Lifetime Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Rank
7/25/14	Lucy	Uni.	$126,663,600	3,202	$43,899,340	3,173	1
9/13/13	The Family (2013)	Rela.	$36,918,811	3,091	$14,034,764	3,091	3
4/13/12	The Lady	Cohen	$355,391	19	n/a	19	10
5/25/07	Angel-A	SPC	$202,647	18	$29,727	7	11
12/29/06	Arthur and the Invisibles	MGM/W	$15,132,763	2,248	n/a	1	5
11/12/99	The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc	Sony	$14,276,317	2,147	$6,360,968	2,147	6
5/9/97	The Fifth Element	Sony	$63,820,180	2,500	$17,031,345	2,500	2
11/18/94	The Professional	Sony	$19,501,238	1,220	$5,306,558	1,158	4
3/8/91	La Femme Nikita	Gold.	$5,017,971	118	$44,047	2	7
8/19/88	The Big Blue	Col.	$3,580,882	967	$1,617,462	967	8
11/6/85	Subway	IsAl	$390,659	5	$11,332	1	9

Edited March 16, 2017 by Goffe

[Valonqar]

this is making more than Lucy but not by much. 

[Barnack]

1 hour ago, Goffe said:

I don't know what any of this means, which source is this from or how trustworthy it is is. 

 

That is from the Sony leaked data dumb, they were paying to have a popularity poll of people (actor, director, fictionnal caracther), made a couple of time a year.

 

The first number is the percentage of people that know the person.

The second number is the percentage that are fan of the person among those who know him.

 

Multiplying the 2 give you the expected fanbase, that is the number studios use to evaluate the star power of a product.

 

Using box office to evaluate the popularity of a director can be extremelly misleading, people do not care if a movie is made by David Yates or Chris Colombus, Tarantino is arguably the third biggest draw and is not in the top 10 grosser of all time. Anyway, even according to this metric is last movie with very average reviews did over 450 million and was number 4 over the Hobbit in France, I'm not sure how it does not show that he is not one of the most popular director on the planet.

Edited March 16, 2017 by Barnack

[Goffe]

35 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Using box office to evaluate the popularity of a director can be extremelly misleading, people do not care if a movie is made by David Yates or Chris Colombus, Tarantino is arguably the third biggest draw and is not in the top 10 grosser of all time. Anyway, even according to this metric is last movie with very average reviews did over 450 million and was number 4 over the Hobbit in France, I'm not sure how it does not show that he is not one of the most popular director on the planet.

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People, talking about the average joe and jane here, do not care unless you're Steven Spielberg and or maybe James Cameron.

 

Besson has directed 11 films and there are like 170 countries. imao You singling out just one of them.  

Edited March 16, 2017 by Goffe

[Barnack]

5 minutes ago, Goffe said:

People do not care unless you're Steven Spielberg and or maybe James Cameron (among working directors).

 

People certainly care for a Tarantino, Nancy Meyers a Christopher Nolan release and some others (or you are using extremely high standard, the fact you say maybe for Cameron seem to indicate that).

 

I'm using all the country with the best I can find metric, not just one, Australia, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Spain, UK, and in those market he score impressively, not just in France in Japan and Italy too.

[PDC1987]

42 minutes ago, Barnack said:

 

That is from the Sony leaked data dumb, they were paying to have a popularity poll of people (actor, director, fictionnal caracther), made a couple of time a year.

 

The first number is the percentage of people that know the person.

The second number is the percentage that are fan of the person among those who know him.

 

Multiplying the 2 give you the expected fanbase, that is the number studios use to evaluate the star power of a product.

 

Using box office to evaluate the popularity of a director can be extremelly misleading, people do not care if a movie is made by David Yates or Chris Colombus, Tarantino is arguably the third biggest draw and is not in the top 10 grosser of all time. Anyway, even according to this metric is last movie with very average reviews did over 450 million and was number 4 over the Hobbit in France, I'm not sure how it does not show that he is not one of the most popular director on the planet.

Popularity is in the numbers, not polling. He's nearly an unknown to the general public.

[Goffe]

Also, was looking at your graphic, how much higher would PJ int'l average be had New Zealand been included? Besson averages 0.358 without France.

[eddyxx]

27 minutes ago, Barnack said:

 

People certainly care for a Tarantino, Nancy Meyers a Christopher Nolan release and some others (or you are using extremely high standard, the fact you say maybe for Cameron seem to indicate that).

 

I'm using all the country with the best I can find metric, not just one, Australia, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Spain, UK, and in those market he score impressively, not just in France in Japan and Italy too.

 

Literally who?

[Barnack]

13 minutes ago, Goffe said:

Also, was looking at your graphic, how much higher would PJ int'l average be had New Zealand been included? Besson averages 0.358 without France.

 

You can easily estimate it would be at least comparable to Australia, Peter Jackson is obviously a bigger figure than Besson, I used one of the biggest outthere has a comparable.

 

36% is a lot for a director, few are known, Besson is one of them one of the rare with is name on the poster (usually they say, from the director the movie X,Y, not your name, in many market Besson has is actual name on the poster)

 

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Popularity is in the numbers, not polling. He's nearly an unknown to the general public.

 

 

Do you think Scorsese is less popular than David Yates ? There is a bit more to ranking director popularity by there box office result, but even if you go by the numbers, Lucy made over 450 million, how much more it would have made with a bigger name director ? That is bigger than all recent Spielberg output.

[Barnack]

2 minutes ago, eddyxx said:

 

Literally who?

 

One of the best modern box office track record, she has a really good older female world fanbase:

Worldwide (Unadjusted)

Rank	Title (click to view)	Studio	Worldwide	Domestic / %		Overseas / %		Year
1	What Women Want	Par.	$374.1	$182.8	48.9%	$191.3	51.1%	2000
2	Something's Gotta Give	Sony	$266.7	$124.7	46.8%	$142.0	53.2%	2003
3	It's Complicated	Uni.	$219.1	$112.7	51.5%	$106.4	48.5%	2009
4	The Holiday	Sony	$205.1	$63.2	30.8%	$141.9	69.2%	2006
5	The Intern	WB	$194.6	$75.8	38.9%	$118.8	61.1%	2015
6	The Parent Trap	BV	$92.1	$66.3	72%	$25.8	28%	1998

[RandomCat]

7 minutes ago, eddyxx said:

 

Literally who?

 

She directed the Parent Trap remake, and what Women Want. You don't remember those classics? Or that movie where DeNiro is an Intern.

[RandomCat]

7 minutes ago, Barnack said:

 

Do you think Scorsese is less popular than David Yates ? There is a bit more to ranking director popularity by there box office result, but even if you go by the numbers, Lucy made over 450 million, how much more it would have made with a bigger name director ? That is bigger than all recent Spielberg output.

 

I can pretty much guarantee that most people don't know the directors of most of the highest grossing films of last year.

[Goffe]

Comparing Yates, who has basically done just HP movies, to Scorsese, who is +40 years in the business.

Edited March 16, 2017 by Goffe