Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[Alexdube]

9 hours ago, cdsacken said:

Definitely not. He already had several big films and he cut his fee for that movie to take a small percentage of revenue. Made $50 million. However it was in the early part of his career post TV

12/19/97    Titanic    Par.                                             $659,363,944    3,265    $28,638,131    2,674    1
12/20/96    Marvin's Room    Mira.                              $12,803,305    1,158    $57,739    6    21
11/1/96    Romeo + Juliet    Fox                                  $46,351,345    1,963    $11,133,231    1,276    15
11/3/95    Total Eclipse    FL                                        $340,139    54    $131,269    52    26
4/21/95    The Basketball Diaries    NL                         $2,381,087    318    $765,335    317    25
2/10/95    The Quick and the Dead    Sony                   $18,636,537    2,158    $6,515,861    2,158    20
12/17/93    What's Eating Gilbert Grape    Par.             $10,032,765    611    $74,421    6    22
4/9/93    This Boy's Life    WB    $4,104,962    773         $74,425    3    24

 

[Sheldon Cr]

There you go all right along with nums I rem they said back in 1997-1998

 

Leo a lil more established made 2.5-3mil and Kate made 2-2.5 mil

 

Kathy bates 1mil, Paxon made 500k-1mil

[Sheldon Cr]

9 minutes ago, Alexdube said:

12/19/97    Titanic    Par.                                             $659,363,944    3,265    $28,638,131    2,674    1
12/20/96    Marvin's Room    Mira.                              $12,803,305    1,158    $57,739    6    21
11/1/96    Romeo + Juliet    Fox                                  $46,351,345    1,963    $11,133,231    1,276    15
11/3/95    Total Eclipse    FL                                        $340,139    54    $131,269    52    26
4/21/95    The Basketball Diaries    NL                         $2,381,087    318    $765,335    317    25
2/10/95    The Quick and the Dead    Sony                   $18,636,537    2,158    $6,515,861    2,158    20
12/17/93    What's Eating Gilbert Grape    Par.             $10,032,765    611    $74,421    6    22
4/9/93    This Boy's Life    WB    $4,104,962    773         $74,425    3    24

 

Nope Capio did not cut a percentage deal. He was not a bo star in 1995-1996. Not even close lol. He was paid 2.5-3 mil. Which is pretty big for b list actor during that period

 

1 hour ago, Barnack said:

I do not think you needed to be a particularly big name to get some participation points (not necessarily access to full video, nor first dollar gross or a big %) on a lead role of a giant studio movie during that era, but DiCaprio was an Oscar nominated that was already a bit of a known name in Japan and elsewhere by the time Titanic released, rumors for what they worst were about an 40-50m type on a million that made I am not sure how much over the decades but probably not too far from 2 billion, that a 2-3% type of deal.

 

Everyone with speaking line in that movie probably made good money, even if you had only one you made nearly 50k in residual over the year,s apparently:

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2302792/how-much-a-titanic-actor-with-one-line-has-earned-in-residuals

 

Even with SAG minimum I would imagine it would have been quite the payday for the 2 lead.

Cool that Leo and Kate and some of the cast  get 5--6 fig potential  checks for a movie over 20 yrs ago all👍👍😎😎. Nice

[Sheldon Cr]

On 9/21/2019 at 4:12 PM, IronJimbo said:

Jim's always hated suits trying to tell him how to direct his movie, the clowns get put in their place

 

 

Yeah heard they gave him a hardtime with abyss and aliens.. So after t2 and others Jc started making sure he had his acard on all his projects 

[Sheldon Cr]

On 9/22/2019 at 8:45 AM, Kthuxi said:

I think it will be tough to do as well moneywise as the original but I hope it has better visuals. The original blew my mind I can't believe it has been 10 years!

I know right kth friend. So crazy its been so long but if all goes right Cameron will prove yet again why hes king of the epics and making breakthrough that blow audiences away on an unprecedented scales.

I feel he will pull off a 3 peat world breaker. Hes the only filmmaker in history to pull off a 2 peat. Domestic and os world breaker in fact. Lets just think positive that Avatar 2 arrives as scheduled in 2021

Edited October 3, 2019 by Sheldon Cr
Just updating

[Sheldon Cr]

On 10/2/2019 at 2:49 PM, IronJimbo said:

That would have never gone through, no way Jimbo giving up 10% profits to an actor

Yep... Damen not even that powerful of a draw. Unless its Bourne lol

[Barnack]

33 minutes ago, Sheldon Cr said:

Yep... Damen not even that powerful of a draw. Unless its Bourne lol

 

He was getting 30% of the gross on Elysium after break even (Blomkamp 5%, Foster 3% with 100k bonus at 160M and 170M dbo, he was a 20M + 10% (or 30-35% for profit participation) type of actor around that time.

[The Futurist]

On 10/1/2019 at 9:04 PM, Hatebox said:

Matt Damon turned down a role in the first Avatar even though Cameron offered him a 10% profit cut. https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/matt-damon-christian-bale-ford-v-ferrari-interview

Leftists egos are bigger than supernovas.

[Sheldon Cr]

5 hours ago, Barnack said:

 

He was getting 30% of the gross on Elysium after break even (Blomkamp 5%, Foster 3% with 100k bonus at 160M and 170M dbo, he was a 20M + 10% (or 30-35% for profit participation) type of actor around that time.

Not true. Matt never had mega bo clout to warrant 30% after breakeven. Damon is very talented but most of his films that are successful he is not the lone big alist star. That is difference between Damon and the mega a list stars like arnold, Harrison Ford and  decapio level success. And frankly Bourne and that marooned in space film are the only successes Matt has helmed that are huge as a big a list leading man. The martian made.600 plus mil ww

 

I dont consider Damon a bo star on the levels of Arnold, Ford, Willis, Stallone, Hanks, Samuel Jackson, Densil etc. Bourne I can see him.getting maybe a deal like that but what else is huge from matt in 2000s besides the martian?

 

Edited October 4, 2019 by Sheldon Cr

[Barnack]

1 hour ago, Sheldon Cr said:

Not true. Matt never had mega bo clout to warrant 30% after breakeven.

?  Source or on what can you base that it is not true ?

 

The distribution contract leaked:

https://wikileaks.org/sony/docs/03_03/RISKMGMT/Claims/CLAIMS%20-%20EO%20(eFILES%20Eff.%208-31-13;%2014)/E&O%20CLAIMS%20'eFILES'%20Eff%208-31-13%20to%208-31-14/Elysium%20-%20MRC%20II%20Distribution%20Company%20LP%20agr.pdf

 

Talent participation is at page 40 of 112

2. Matt Damon: 30% of 100% of the defined gross proceeded from and after 0% Breakeven.

 

Why would I have been making stuff up about Damon compensation on movies ?

 

30% after breakeven is big but not has big has the name you listed got in their peak, with their first dollar gross deal. It is not unusual for a non-franchise studio movie with name's to get close to 50% of the profit going to cast, director, writer, producers & production company, when a star is the only big name in a clear lead role, 20-30% profit participation isn't rare (Will Smith got 50% to him alone after a certain of the bo on some movies), are they getting 100% HV, 80% only 20% ?, with or no off the top, some bonus of other people removed, etc... will change..

 

1 hour ago, Sheldon Cr said:

but what else is huge from matt in 2000s besides the martian?

The Ocean franchise, True Grit, he went above 100M 15 tiems in the 2000s before Elysium released.

 

There is a reason why he is a fixture in the rumored top paid actor of the year according to Forbes estimate:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37193973

2015:

1. Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson - $64.5m (£48.8m)
2. Jackie Chan - $61m (£46.2m)
3. Matt Damon - $55m (£41.6m)
4. Tom Cruise - $53m (£40.1m)
5. Johnny Depp - $48m (£36.4m)
6. Ben Affleck - $43m (£32.6m)
7. Vin Diesel - $35m (£26.5m)
8. Shah Rukh Khan - $33m (£25m)
9. Robert Downey Jr - $33m (£25m)
10. Akshay Kumar - $31.5m (£23.9m)

[Barnack]

4 hours ago, The Futurist said:

Leftists egos are bigger than supernovas.

Why do you say that ?

it would have caused a problem for Paul Greengrass and for all my friends on The Bourne Ultimatum, so I couldn’t do it 

 

What does it have to do with one ego to respect previous engagement ? Avatar had a summer 2008 release at some point, with a februray 2007 shoot, Bourne Ultimatum shoot started October 2006, quite possible it simply was a scheduling conflict.

[Deuce66]

Here's a shot of someone taking a shot of Jon taking the shot he posted a few days ago. Anyone have any ideas on what that object might be? is it a miniature of an underwater RDA research lab? 

 

 

[IronJimbo]

8 minutes ago, Deuce66 said:

Here's a shot of someone taking a shot of Jon taking the shot he posted a few days ago. Anyone have any ideas on what that object might be? is it a miniature of an underwater RDA research lab? 

 

 

We know there are going to be "marine vessels" in the sequels. Could be one of those sinking.

[Kthuxi]

On 10/4/2019 at 6:39 PM, Deuce66 said:

Here's a shot of someone taking a shot of Jon taking the shot he posted a few days ago. Anyone have any ideas on what that object might be? is it a miniature of an underwater RDA research lab? 

 

 

So much going on here. Amazing.

[Sheldon Cr]

On 10/8/2019 at 3:30 PM, Kthuxi said:

So much going on here. Amazing.

We will send the Avatar 2 naysayers the message!!

Can Avatar go beyond the 4 and 5b we marks??!

Thinking now it may happen.

 

Your not in the regular box office world now folks. Your on Jim's Pandora. Hes going to do it again!!

 

😱

[Sheldon Cr]

Love these articles on Juggernaut 2021

 

https://www.tvovermind.com/think-avatar-2-will-first-movie-gross-4-billion/

 

https://www.indiewire.com/2018/11/james-cameron-avatar-sequels-biggest-movies-ever-1202018443/

Edited October 13, 2019 by Sheldon Cr

[Sheldon Cr]

Here are some of the early predicts so far. Everyone please help me update👍

 

Avatar 2 Dec 17th, 2021

 

Kal...1.12b dom, 3.4b OS( Really would love Avatar2 to hit 1bil to 1.2 bil or

 

Better from China alone)

 

4.5b WW

 

Ncsoft... 3.7Bww

 

 

 

Jimbo...1.1B dom , 

 

3.5b OS, 4.6B WW

 

Keysersoze123

600 Domestic /1.2B OS -C / 700M C - 2.5B WW

Pure spirit

 

low-end:

 

550M DOM

 

$2B OS - China

 

$600M China

 

 

 

$3.15B total, assuming significant drop off from the first after accounting for inflation plus foreign market growth

 

(Nice one Pure Spirit I hope

 

we reach your highend predict or far more fellow Pandorian)

 

Pure Spirits High-end :

 

$1B DOM

 

$3B OS - China

 

$1.1B China

 

$5.1B total

 

Charlie Jatender

 

Dom: 475+ (45mn admits against 75mn of Avatar 1 but due to lower 3D contribution ATP just 10% higher than normal as compared to 33% in 2009)

 

Overseas: 1200 (same reason in Europe as in Dom but Asia will rise)

 

China: 700 

 



 

WW: 2375

 

Headshot-- 1.3 billion max. It's actually going to do even less than that.

 

500 OS

 

250 DOM

 

400 China 

 

 

 

/\ Bold on this predict😱😂

 

 

 

Raul B. :

 

$550M China

 

$900M OS - CHN

 

 

$2B worldwide

 

Updated 10/14/2019

 

 

[Sheldon Cr]

Gd morning Jimbo and our happy lil Pandora community. If anyone gets any Avatar 2 Day confirmations. Rem to post. I hope we get a teaser of sorts this Dec. Hang in there guys. Time is getting shorter to see the true boxoffice king prince to return to the top yet again and hopefully the saga will hold all the top 5 spots for greatest box office runs 

[TomCruiseTop]

Disover more of the Avatar saga in this direct prequel to the film Avatar 2!

 

James Cameron' screenplay, "The High Ground," was intended as the first sequel to the biggest blockbuster of all time, Avatar. Discarded in favour of other ideas, the original screenplay is being adapted into a three-part graphic novel series.

 

It has been almost a decade since the humans were forced to leave Pandora - but now they're returning - with an armada of heavily-armed starships! After years of peace, Jake Sully has settled down with Neytiri and raised a family, so for him, the stakes are even higher than when he first went to war against the corporate might of the RDA.

 

Adapted for comics by award-winning author Sherri L. Smith (The Toymaker's Apprentice, Orleans, and others), and illustrated by Brazilian artist Guilherme Balbi, Avatar: The High Ground, Volume 1 - Advent to War ventures into all-new territory in the Avatar saga, and is a direct prequel to next year's release of the film Avatar 2!

[IronJimbo]

14 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said:

Disover more of the Avatar saga in this direct prequel to the film Avatar 2!

 

James Cameron' screenplay, "The High Ground," was intended as the first sequel to the biggest blockbuster of all time, Avatar. Discarded in favour of other ideas, the original screenplay is being adapted into a three-part graphic novel series.

 

It has been almost a decade since the humans were forced to leave Pandora - but now they're returning - with an armada of heavily-armed starships! After years of peace, Jake Sully has settled down with Neytiri and raised a family, so for him, the stakes are even higher than when he first went to war against the corporate might of the RDA.

 

Adapted for comics by award-winning author Sherri L. Smith (The Toymaker's Apprentice, Orleans, and others), and illustrated by Brazilian artist Guilherme Balbi, Avatar: The High Ground, Volume 1 - Advent to War ventures into all-new territory in the Avatar saga, and is a direct prequel to next year's release of the film Avatar 2!

I want to see the artwork of these Jim designed heavily armed starships so bad